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Iranian protesters asking Khamenei to resign after downed plane

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Iranians protested demanding Khamenei'''s resignation over plane strike - Business Insider

The source, Business Insider, is right-wing, so who knows if this is accurate or if the protesters were as numerous as reported?

But it is interesting.

Could this be construed as "Trump's strategy is working"? If the Iranian regime falls apart, Trump would earn a huge electoral boost.

Of course, from protests to the regime coming down there is a very long way to go.
 
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Iranians are rightly angry that Iran shot down a plane carrying Iranians.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Could this be construed as "Trump's strategy is working"?
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No. Not without solid evidence that Trump's plan was to kill a bastard terrorist to provoke Iran to shoot down a commercial flight. There is none, solid or otherwise.







GreatNews2night said:
If the Iranian regime falls apart, Trump would earn a huge electoral boost.
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Maybe, but not for good reasons.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Iranians protested demanding Khamenei'''s resignation over plane strike - Business Insider

The source, Business Insider, is right-wing
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It is?

Business Insider - Media Bias/Fact Check

They consider it left-center with a high degree of accuracy.


Could this be construed as "Trump's strategy is working"?
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No. There is very little reason to think Trump had anything like that in mind.

If the Iranian regime falls apart, Trump would earn a huge electoral boost.
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That is probably true.

Of course, from protests to the regime coming down there is a very long way to go.
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That is also true.
 
Mr Person said:
No. Not without solid evidence that Trump's plan was to kill a bastard terrorist to provoke Iran to shoot down a commercial flight. There is none, solid or otherwise.









Maybe, but not for good reasons.
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I didn't mean a direct cause-effect, thus the use of the word "construed." What I mean is, if protests increase to the point that the regime gets inviable, Trump supporters will pretend that this is Trump's victory.
 
Harshaw said:
It is?

Business Insider - Media Bias/Fact Check

They consider it left-center with a high degree of accuracy.




No. There is very little reason to think Trump had anything like that in mind.



That is probably true.



That is also true.
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Really? Left-center? It surprises me. Everything I read from them has a right-wing twist. Not that I read them too often.

I mean, if people say "Trump was right about putting pressure on Iran, it made them desperate and prone to unforced errors, and ultimately it brought them down."
 
GreatNews2night said:
Could this be construed as "Trump's strategy is working"? If the Iranian regime falls apart, Trump would earn a huge electoral boost.
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That would be a great ad campaign for Trump.

Nevertheless, I hope they will bring down the regime.
 
GreatNews2night said:
I mean, if people say "Trump was right about putting pressure on Iran, it made them desperate and prone to unforced errors, and ultimately it brought them down."
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No, I still don't see it. It wouldn't stop him from trying to take credit for it, but I don't at all think he had it mind, or that people in general would ever see it that way.
 
How does an Iranian Supreme Ayatollah resign? It's not like he's Prince Harry and he can renounce his ayatollahship and move to Canada.
 
Again, clarifying: I didn't say "could it be because Trump's strategy is working?"
I said, could it be CONSTRUED as Trump's strategy is working?
You guys are being too literal.
If Trump's pressure on Iran makes them make unforced errors, yes, people could construe it as coming from him (although personally I doubt that he plans that far; he usually just reacts impulsively when someone hurts his narcissism like when Khamenei said he couldn'd do a damn thing.
 
lemmiwinx said:
How does an Iranian Supreme Ayatollah resign? It's not like he's Prince Harry and he can renounce his ayatollahship and move to Canada.
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Just like a Pope can resign. Khamenei could step down, name someone else the Supreme Leader, and retire to a small community in the countryside for meditation and pray.
 
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GreatNews2night said:
Again, clarifying: I didn't say "could it be because Trump's strategy is working?"
I said, could it be CONSTRUED as Trump's strategy is working?
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Someone could, I suppose, try to construe it that way, but as I said, I don't think people in general will.
 
Harshaw said:
Someone could, I suppose, try to construe it that way, but as I said, I don't think people in general will.
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Just wait and watch. Remember birtherism and "lock her up"? Yeah just watch any Trump rally.
 
GreatNews2night said:
I didn't mean a direct cause-effect, thus the use of the word "construed." What I mean is, if protests increase to the point that the regime gets inviable, Trump supporters will pretend that this is Trump's victory.
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Full agreement there, then.

They'd probably call it a victory if he nuked DC. "Atomized the swamp!"
 
GreatNews2night said:
Just like a Pope can resign. Khamenei could step down, name someone else the Supreme Leader, and retire to a small community in the countryside for mediation and pray.
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Yah right. I can see car bombs and suicide vests going off all over Tehran during the succession celebrations.
 
lemmiwinx said:
How does an Iranian Supreme Ayatollah resign? It's not like he's Prince Harry and he can renounce his ayatollahship and move to Canada.
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The Iranian Assembly of Experts would elect a new Supreme Leader. Think of it like the College of Cardinals electing a new Pope, except if the Pope had complete authority over a country of 80 million people and his own private army of fanatical loyalists to enforce his will at home and abroad.
 
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Harshaw said:
Someone could, I suppose, try to construe it that way, but as I said, I don't think people in general will.
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Oh, you are underestimating the ability of Trumpers to forgive his every error and to attribute any advance, even if coincidental or the work of others, to his infinite wisdom.
 
Harshaw said:
No, I still don't see it. It wouldn't stop him from trying to take credit for it, but I don't at all think he had it mind, or that people in general would ever see it that way.
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I think there's almost no doubt trump supporters would make that claim, just as Reagan supporters gave Reagan credit he didn't deserve for 'bringing down the Soviet Union', because he happened to be president when it fell and Reagan had said mean things to them.
 
One thing is for sure, if the Iranian regime falls due to whatever internal conditions, Trump will immediately take credit for it. Hell, he even took credit one of these days for job creation with the inauguration of a factory, when the factory had been inaugurated 4 years ago during the Obama administration, LOL.
 
lemmiwinx said:
When do the people get to vote?
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For a new Supreme Leader? Never. The Assembly of Experts is put in place by the present Supreme Leader, again, much in the same way that a Pope appoints new Cardinals to the College of Cardinals.

The people of Iran simply get to vote for the government (i.e., the parliament and president), but the entire government, executive, legislative and judiciary, is overseen and directed by the Supreme Leader. So, in reality, the Iranian people get to vote for an advisory board which can be ignored and whose decisions can be set aside by the Supreme Leader. The title "Supreme Leader" is not just a florid title. He is literally the supreme leader of the country.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Oh, you are underestimating the ability of Trumpers to forgive his every error and to attribute any advance, even if coincidental or the work of others, to his infinite wisdom.
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Are people in general Trumpers?
 
Mr Person said:
No. Not without solid evidence that Trump's plan was to kill a bastard terrorist to provoke Iran to shoot down a commercial flight. There is none, solid or otherwise.









Maybe, but not for good reasons.
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If this regime falls then the President will certainly get a lot of credit and rightly so. It will have been caused in part by exiting the Iran agreement and the killing of Solemani. Most importantly, it will come about with great help from this administration who will support the Iranian people and strike while the Iron is hot. Obama has his chance but didn't take it.
 
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