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Trumpian Division of Americans Continues

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Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News

Trump went on to suggest that Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and "Liddle' pencil-neck" House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., would have tipped off the media about the operation had they known about it.
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That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
 
They call us deplorables we call them traitors. Fair enough although we've been proven right they are never Trumpers I wouldn't trust them with national security secrets.
 
lemmiwinx said:
They call us deplorables we call them traitors. Fair enough although we've been proven right they are never Trumpers I wouldn't trust them with national security secrets.
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Given Trumps history he shouldn't be trusted with sensitive information.
 
calamity said:
Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News



That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
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The traitors are the ones who take every opportunity to further the toxic division in American society. Half of them are probably being paid to push a divide-and-conquer agenda.
 
lemmiwinx said:
They call us deplorables we call them traitors. Fair enough although we've been proven right they are never Trumpers I wouldn't trust them with national security secrets.
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Are you a racist or other part of the group she was referring to? If not you were not mentioned by Hillary. Of course you little snowflakes rallied around your victimhood mentality.
 
calamity said:
Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News



That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
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1. He's right about the Dems. Hell, Obama tipped off Iran the last time someone was going to take out Suli-whatshisface.

2. Trump didn't violate the Constitution.

Seriously, calamity...must you always pretend not to know things and then spout hyperbole?
 
calamity said:
Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News

That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
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Coming from the party whose head of the house intelligence committee (Schiff)

Who continued to leak selective parts of testimony from closed door sessions
Secretly confiscated and leaked phone conversations of opposing political party members then was found to have knowingly falsified their content
Claimed to have undisputed evidence of Trump colluding with Russians to effect the outcome of an election
Stated he didn't know who the whistle blower was but got caught lying about it when we found out his staff was working with him
So desperate for opposition research that he even fell for a prank by a Ukrainian who offered him nude photographs of the president
His dramatized rendition of the president’s call with Zelensky that bore no resemblance to the publicly available transcript released by the White House.

Yes, Democrats are a danger to this country and will leak anything they can find even when its knowingly false. I wouldn't give Schiff a copy of my dogs pedigree much less trust him as far as I could drop kick a 55 Buick. He is the biggest liar Washington has ever seen.
 
Mycroft said:
1. He's right about the Dems. Hell, Obama tipped off Iran the last time someone was going to take out Suli-whatshisface.

2. Trump didn't violate the Constitution.

Seriously, calamity...must you always pretend not to know things and then spout hyperbole?
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Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017 - CNNPolitics

"A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.
The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel."
 
calamity said:
Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News



That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
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It is rather sad that Trump has caused so many Americans to totally lose their ****, write off friends and family, hold absurd protests, make up all kinds of claims about stuff he hasn't done and expend so much energy misrepresenting stuff he has done. It's kind of like when that person with all the coupons in front of you at the grocery store forces you to freak out and throw a temper tantrum right there in the store. It's not your fault that you threw the tantrum because that other mother****er made you do it.
 
Mycroft said:
1. He's right about the Dems. Hell, Obama tipped off Iran the last time someone was going to take out Suli-whatshisface.

2. Trump didn't violate the Constitution.

Seriously, calamity...must you always pretend not to know things and then spout hyperbole?
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Kerry, last I read, was still talking to Iran in an effort to prop up the nuke deal.
 
lemmiwinx said:
They call us deplorables we call them traitors. Fair enough although we've been proven right they are never Trumpers I wouldn't trust them with national security secrets.
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Plus, it's been fairly well documented that they are leakers.
 
lemmiwinx said:
They call us deplorables we call them traitors. Fair enough although we've been proven right they are never Trumpers I wouldn't trust them with national security secrets.
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But, we know Trumpians are deplorable since there is evidence thereof. An example of it can even be seen in the quote provided in the op.

Can you present any evidence substantiating the "traitor" comments about Democrats?

I'll wait.


....until the cows come home.
 
Condor060 said:
Coming from the party whose head of the house intelligence committee (Schiff)

Who continued to leak selective parts of testimony from closed door sessions
Secretly confiscated and leaked phone conversations of opposing political party members then was found to have knowingly falsified their content
Claimed to have undisputed evidence of Trump colluding with Russians to effect the outcome of an election
Stated he didn't know who the whistle blower was but got caught lying about it when we found out his staff was working with him
So desperate for opposition research that he even fell for a prank by a Ukrainian who offered him nude photographs of the president
His dramatized rendition of the president’s call with Zelensky that bore no resemblance to the publicly available transcript released by the White House.

Yes, Democrats are a danger to this country and will leak anything they can find even when its knowingly false. I wouldn't give Schiff a copy of my dogs pedigree much less trust him as far as I could drop kick a 55 Buick. He is the biggest liar Washington has ever seen.
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When Trump tells the truth about, well...anything, I'll start considering what he says to maybe be something more than a scheme to divide the people. And, as we see, he is succeeding.
 
Wasn't it Trump who fed classified information to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov?

Did so right in the Oval Office no less.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Wasn't it Trump who fed classified information to Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov?

Did so right in the Oval Office no less.
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Explains the projection.
 
trixare4kids said:
Plus, it's been fairly well documented that they are leakers.
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I'd like to see links to that documentation, because the only "documented" information I find is Don Vito tRump accusing Democrats (of everything), but no actual "facts" (of anything - including leaking).
 
calamity said:
Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News



That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
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The full quote. Fun and accurate.

"Can you imagine calling Crooked Adam Schiff? He's so crooked. So crooked. Shifty Schiff. Say, "Gee, Adam, how you're doing? Listen — we have the world's number one terrorist who's killed thousands and thousands of people. We'd like to set up a meeting so we can discuss his execution. Would you be willing to meet?"

"Well, I won't be able to make it this week."
"Well, you know, he's traveling fast. We've got it lined up, Adam. You little pencil neck." [Huge cheers.]
Nine inches. He buys the smallest shirt collar you can get, and it's loose.
"Now, come on, Adam. We've got to meet faster, Adam. We've got him lined up. We've got to take this guy out. We're not going to have another shot at him, maybe ever again."
"But I can't make it now because I'm trying to impeach Trump. Even thought he did nothing wrong."
[snip]
Now Schiff is a big leaker. You know, he leaks to crazy CNN, see with the little red light on them [pointing to cameras]. Not too many people are watching CNN.
But he leaks. So he'll say, "You know, ah, off the record, I got to hurry up because everyone's watching me in the hallway on my cell phone. Off the record, they've got the number one terrorist in the world, Soleimani, and they're going to get him, they're going to take him out, in the next ten minutes. Please don't tell anybody I told you."
"We have breaking news: President Trump, within the next twenty, twenty-five minutes looks to be taking out terrorist General Soleimani. He's going to do it. Should be happening in about the next twenty minutes, nineteen, eighteen, seventeen.
Then we get back to the battlefield. "How did you do?"
"I don't know, Sir. He disappeared. I don't know what happened to him."
They want us to tell them so they can leak it to their friends in the corrupt media.






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Eriech said:
The full quote. Fun and accurate.

"Can you imagine calling Crooked Adam Schiff? He's so crooked. So crooked. Shifty Schiff. Say, "Gee, Adam, how you're doing? Listen — we have the world's number one terrorist who's killed thousands and thousands of people. We'd like to set up a meeting so we can discuss his execution. Would you be willing to meet?"

"Well, I won't be able to make it this week."
"Well, you know, he's traveling fast. We've got it lined up, Adam. You little pencil neck." [Huge cheers.]
Nine inches. He buys the smallest shirt collar you can get, and it's loose.
"Now, come on, Adam. We've got to meet faster, Adam. We've got him lined up. We've got to take this guy out. We're not going to have another shot at him, maybe ever again."
"But I can't make it now because I'm trying to impeach Trump. Even thought he did nothing wrong."
[snip]
Now Schiff is a big leaker. You know, he leaks to crazy CNN, see with the little red light on them [pointing to cameras]. Not too many people are watching CNN.
But he leaks. So he'll say, "You know, ah, off the record, I got to hurry up because everyone's watching me in the hallway on my cell phone. Off the record, they've got the number one terrorist in the world, Soleimani, and they're going to get him, they're going to take him out, in the next ten minutes. Please don't tell anybody I told you."
"We have breaking news: President Trump, within the next twenty, twenty-five minutes looks to be taking out terrorist General Soleimani. He's going to do it. Should be happening in about the next twenty minutes, nineteen, eighteen, seventeen.
Then we get back to the battlefield. "How did you do?"
"I don't know, Sir. He disappeared. I don't know what happened to him."
They want us to tell them so they can leak it to their friends in the corrupt media.






Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk
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If the guy I supported insulted my intelligence like that, by talking to me as if I were a fifth grader, I'd dump him faster than a gf who contracted syphilis. But, I forget.

Trumper's won't dump someone they can relate to. After all, they can only understand language designed for a fifth grader.
 
calamity said:
Now he's calling Democrats traitors...and using it as an excuse to violate the constitution.

Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans | Fox News



That nonsense reminds me of Oliver North shredding documents so that the "real enemy" (Congress) can't see them. I guess their playbook hasn't changed much since back in the day.

Sad thing is so many on the Right believe this completely. Hence, it makes that silly rhetoric somewhat dangerous. Does it not?
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One thing that is evident any way it is seen is that Trump is either a lying con artist or incompetent to the nth degree.

His whole presidency is based on "Make America Great Again" but to make any country great again you need a population that is working in harmony to reach that high goal. Given that Trump is clearly not trying to unite the country, it means he is either incompetent or a lying con artist. There is no other way to see it when 60% of the population is pulling toward one side and the other 40% pulling to the opposite side.

We are not heading or working for the same goal and nothing is ever great when that occurs. FDR, for example once said:

What Roosevelt Said: “My friends, I want to talk for a few minutes with the people of the United States about banking…confidence and courage are the essentials of success in carrying out our plan. You people must have faith. You must not be stampeded by rumors or guesses. Let us unite in banishing fear. We have provided the machinery to restore our financial system, and it is up to you to support and make it work. It is your problem, my friends. Your problem no less than it is mine. Together, we cannot fail.”
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he also said:

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" is as true now as it was when FDR first spoke those words in his inaugural address in 1933. Anything that divides us makes us weaker, less secure, less productive and "less great" and fear may be the most destructive and divisive force on the planet.
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Trump has done nothing to unite us. On that alone, he has been a huge failure.

If you have any regard for FDR, then you know his words are true and if they are, you are wrong in your support for Trump as he is doing the opposite of what FDR did!
 
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lemmiwinx said:
They call us deplorables we call them traitors. Fair enough although we've been proven right they are never Trumpers I wouldn't trust them with national security secrets.
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It is deplorable for a President to call our lawmakers traitors especially since he always is guilty of doing what he accuses others of doing. That makes all of you complicit.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017 - CNNPolitics

"A person directly involved in the discussions said that the removal of the Russian was driven, in part, by concerns that President Donald Trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence and could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy.
The decision to carry out the extraction occurred soon after a May 2017 meeting in the Oval Office in which Trump discussed highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. The intelligence, concerning ISIS in Syria, had been provided by Israel."
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Another unnamed source sounds off. Dismissed.
 
Eriech said:
The full quote. Fun and accurate.

"Can you imagine calling Crooked Adam Schiff? He's so crooked. So crooked. Shifty Schiff. Say, "Gee, Adam, how you're doing? Listen — we have the world's number one terrorist who's killed thousands and thousands of people. We'd like to set up a meeting so we can discuss his execution. Would you be willing to meet?"

"Well, I won't be able to make it this week."
"Well, you know, he's traveling fast. We've got it lined up, Adam. You little pencil neck." [Huge cheers.]
Nine inches. He buys the smallest shirt collar you can get, and it's loose.
"Now, come on, Adam. We've got to meet faster, Adam. We've got him lined up. We've got to take this guy out. We're not going to have another shot at him, maybe ever again."
"But I can't make it now because I'm trying to impeach Trump. Even thought he did nothing wrong."
[snip]
Now Schiff is a big leaker. You know, he leaks to crazy CNN, see with the little red light on them [pointing to cameras]. Not too many people are watching CNN.
But he leaks. So he'll say, "You know, ah, off the record, I got to hurry up because everyone's watching me in the hallway on my cell phone. Off the record, they've got the number one terrorist in the world, Soleimani, and they're going to get him, they're going to take him out, in the next ten minutes. Please don't tell anybody I told you."
"We have breaking news: President Trump, within the next twenty, twenty-five minutes looks to be taking out terrorist General Soleimani. He's going to do it. Should be happening in about the next twenty minutes, nineteen, eighteen, seventeen.
Then we get back to the battlefield. "How did you do?"
"I don't know, Sir. He disappeared. I don't know what happened to him."
They want us to tell them so they can leak it to their friends in the corrupt media.






Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk
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Honor, respect for one another, and appreciation for what someone has accomplished in their lifetimes is always needed for two people to talk and accomplish a common goal. Trump did none of that in that conversation. It was clearly a bully trying to shame the other into doing what the bully wants. How can you even believe that such a conversation would convince any rational person to do something together.

It is like saying to someone "you are a piece of s**t but I want you to help me".
 
calamity said:
When Trump tells the truth about, well...anything, I'll start considering what he says to maybe be something more than a scheme to divide the people. And, as we see, he is succeeding.
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Nobody said anything about Trump and nobody needs Trump to know the antics of Adam Schiff.

Nobody cares that you love Adam Schiff. But voters have a different idea. You saw it in 2016 and you're going to see it again in 2020.

But please keep explaining how Schiff is your guy. We love it and so do independent voters.
 
iguanaman said:
It is deplorable for a President to call our lawmakers traitors especially since he always is doing what he accuses others of doing. That makes all of you complicit.
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He didn't call "lawmakers traitors." He called traitorous Democrats traitors. He certainly didn't name then all. EVERY Democrat that voted that Iran can attack our troops, our civilians, or allies - in Iraq, any other country and the USA - even could launch missiles at DC, NYC and any other American cities - or Trump's FLorida home - the those Democrats voted that the President can do nothing but watch Americans die - while the alcoholic wannabe self declared Commander in Chief Pelosi puts the phone call for hundreds of millions of dollars in graft for one of her relatives cheers Iran.

They all should be tried for treason and hung. They are overwhelming more dangerous to our country that any other country or any other person. There is nothing bad that might happen to Pelosi that I wouldn't celebrate. I have a kid repeatedly in combat in that region with permanent and serious injuries and wounds - and they voted that in their goals Iranian forces and Iranian forces have their permission to kill my kid doing all they can to assist them in doing so. That is the reality and no reality is greater to me.
 
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