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Mark my words what the right will do if Bernie becomes president

Craig234

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I've long said the only actual agenda of the Republican Party is plutocracy, all the rest is to get votes to get power to get plutocracy. As long as they are getting power and plutocracy, they are just fine with the democratic system they exploit.

But the moment a Bernie Sanders wins and begins to support the rich getting a bit less to help the American people, you will see the right go full anti-democracy libertarian anarchist, and go to war against the very power of the American people to do much of anything through government. While you don't hear it under trump, they will start calling all government tyranny.

'If you can't beat them, destroy the system' will be the motto.

It's a strategy we haven't seen them have to use in the US, but we've seen elsewhere - for example, when Hugo Chavez was elected in Venezuela, the businesses shut down the economy for six months trying to use economic warfare to force the people to remove Chavez. Remove him, and you get your economy back. The peopel stood strong, I'm not sure we would.

But of course, if the right did that here, all the blame for the economic disaster would be placed by the right on Bernie, not the people actually causing it. This state of these plutocrats having that power of economic blackmail against the people of the country is why their power has to be reduced to where they 'only' get to get rich, not own our political system.

This post may not seem like it fits what we're seeing yet, but it's a comment on the changes we'd see when Bernie hopefully wins. And that's a change to our country we really need, a return to democracy and long-term more prosperity for the American people.

We can talk all day about the ever-increasing things like fewer than a thousand lobbyists when Reagan got elected, to something like 40,000 today.

Imagine that trend being reversed for the first time in 40 years, instead of increasing further as is likely under almost any other candidate (including trump who promised to reduce lobbyists, but instead did the standard Republican thing of appointing them to run the government and set policy).
 
Craig234 said:
I've long said the only actual agenda of the Republican Party is plutocracy, all the rest is to get votes to get power to get plutocracy. As long as they are getting power and plutocracy, they are just fine with the democratic system they exploit.

But the moment a Bernie Sanders wins and begins to support the rich getting a bit less to help the American people, you will see the right go full anti-democracy libertarian anarchist, and go to war against the very power of the American people to do much of anything through government. While you don't hear it under trump, they will start calling all government tyranny.

'If you can't beat them, destroy the system' will be the motto.

It's a strategy we haven't seen them have to use in the US, but we've seen elsewhere - for example, when Hugo Chavez was elected in Venezuela, the businesses shut down the economy for six months trying to use economic warfare to force the people to remove Chavez. Remove him, and you get your economy back. The peopel stood strong, I'm not sure we would.

But of course, if the right did that here, all the blame for the economic disaster would be placed by the right on Bernie, not the people actually causing it. This state of these plutocrats having that power of economic blackmail against the people of the country is why their power has to be reduced to where they 'only' get to get rich, not own our political system.

This post may not seem like it fits what we're seeing yet, but it's a comment on the changes we'd see when Bernie hopefully wins. And that's a change to our country we really need, a return to democracy and long-term more prosperity for the American people.

We can talk all day about the ever-increasing things like fewer than a thousand lobbyists when Reagan got elected, to something like 40,000 today.

Imagine that trend being reversed for the first time in 40 years, instead of increasing further as is likely under almost any other candidate (including trump who promised to reduce lobbyists, but instead did the standard Republican thing of appointing them to run the government and set policy).
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IF by some miracle he did become president. He would be impeached before his ass had time to warm the seat.

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Craig234 said:
I've long said the only actual agenda of the Republican Party is plutocracy, all the rest is to get votes to get power to get plutocracy. As long as they are getting power and plutocracy, they are just fine with the democratic system they exploit.

But the moment a Bernie Sanders wins and begins to support the rich getting a bit less to help the American people, you will see the right go full anti-democracy libertarian anarchist, and go to war against the very power of the American people to do much of anything through government. While you don't hear it under trump, they will start calling all government tyranny.

'If you can't beat them, destroy the system' will be the motto.

It's a strategy we haven't seen them have to use in the US, but we've seen elsewhere - for example, when Hugo Chavez was elected in Venezuela, the businesses shut down the economy for six months trying to use economic warfare to force the people to remove Chavez. Remove him, and you get your economy back. The peopel stood strong, I'm not sure we would.

But of course, if the right did that here, all the blame for the economic disaster would be placed by the right on Bernie, not the people actually causing it. This state of these plutocrats having that power of economic blackmail against the people of the country is why their power has to be reduced to where they 'only' get to get rich, not own our political system.

This post may not seem like it fits what we're seeing yet, but it's a comment on the changes we'd see when Bernie hopefully wins. And that's a change to our country we really need, a return to democracy and long-term more prosperity for the American people.

We can talk all day about the ever-increasing things like fewer than a thousand lobbyists when Reagan got elected, to something like 40,000 today.

Imagine that trend being reversed for the first time in 40 years, instead of increasing further as is likely under almost any other candidate (including trump who promised to reduce lobbyists, but instead did the standard Republican thing of appointing them to run the government and set policy).
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I'm all for the wealthy calling the shots. They are generally the intelligent people who understand economics. You get great leaders like President Trump with 50 years of business experience who understand how to negotiate, who understand business. When you move away from that, you get incompetent dumbasses like Bernie making bad policy because they've never been in the real world and have no idea how it works. Sanders never held a job until age 40 when he entered politics. At one point his family lived in a hovel with a dirt floor and had to borrow electricity from a neighbor. And people think a moron like that can construct sound policy? But this all started when we began allowing dumbasses with no skin in the game to vote. That's how idiots like Bernie get to see the light of day. Dumbasses supporting dumbasses.
 
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Mashmont said:
I'm all for the wealthy calling the shots. They are generally the intelligent people who understand economics. You get great leaders like President Trump with 50 years of business experience who understand how to negotiate, who understand business. When you move away from that, you get incompetent dumbasses like Bernie making bad policy because they've never been in the real world and have no idea how it works. Sanders never held a job until age 40 when he entered politics. At one point his family lived in a hovel with a dirt floor and had to borrow electricity from a neighbor. And people think a moron like that can construct sound policy?
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That's a whole lot of words just to say "I love licking boot." Bernie's experiences and life are far more similar to yours than an overwhelming majority of millionaires.
 
Craig234 said:
I've long said the only actual agenda of the Republican Party is plutocracy, all the rest is to get votes to get power to get plutocracy. As long as they are getting power and plutocracy, they are just fine with the democratic system they exploit.

But the moment a Bernie Sanders wins and begins to support the rich getting a bit less to help the American people, you will see the right go full anti-democracy libertarian anarchist, and go to war against the very power of the American people to do much of anything through government. While you don't hear it under trump, they will start calling all government tyranny.

'If you can't beat them, destroy the system' will be the motto.

It's a strategy we haven't seen them have to use in the US, but we've seen elsewhere - for example, when Hugo Chavez was elected in Venezuela, the businesses shut down the economy for six months trying to use economic warfare to force the people to remove Chavez. Remove him, and you get your economy back. The peopel stood strong, I'm not sure we would.

But of course, if the right did that here, all the blame for the economic disaster would be placed by the right on Bernie, not the people actually causing it. This state of these plutocrats having that power of economic blackmail against the people of the country is why their power has to be reduced to where they 'only' get to get rich, not own our political system.

This post may not seem like it fits what we're seeing yet, but it's a comment on the changes we'd see when Bernie hopefully wins. And that's a change to our country we really need, a return to democracy and long-term more prosperity for the American people.

We can talk all day about the ever-increasing things like fewer than a thousand lobbyists when Reagan got elected, to something like 40,000 today.

Imagine that trend being reversed for the first time in 40 years, instead of increasing further as is likely under almost any other candidate (including trump who promised to reduce lobbyists, but instead did the standard Republican thing of appointing them to run the government and set policy).
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How fitting a discussion of a Bernie presidency would evoke Hugo Chavez. Wonder how the US would end up under Sanders? Just look at Venezuela.
These leftwingers don't connect the dots, do they?
 
That's more than enough tinfoil hat nonsense for me at this point.
 
Craig234 said:
I've long said the only actual agenda of the Republican Party is plutocracy, all the rest is to get votes to get power to get plutocracy. As long as they are getting power and plutocracy, they are just fine with the democratic system they exploit.

But the moment a Bernie Sanders wins and begins to support the rich getting a bit less to help the American people, you will see the right go full anti-democracy libertarian anarchist, and go to war against the very power of the American people to do much of anything through government. While you don't hear it under trump, they will start calling all government tyranny.

'If you can't beat them, destroy the system' will be the motto.

It's a strategy we haven't seen them have to use in the US, but we've seen elsewhere - for example, when Hugo Chavez was elected in Venezuela, the businesses shut down the economy for six months trying to use economic warfare to force the people to remove Chavez. Remove him, and you get your economy back. The peopel stood strong, I'm not sure we would.

But of course, if the right did that here, all the blame for the economic disaster would be placed by the right on Bernie, not the people actually causing it. This state of these plutocrats having that power of economic blackmail against the people of the country is why their power has to be reduced to where they 'only' get to get rich, not own our political system.

This post may not seem like it fits what we're seeing yet, but it's a comment on the changes we'd see when Bernie hopefully wins. And that's a change to our country we really need, a return to democracy and long-term more prosperity for the American people.

We can talk all day about the ever-increasing things like fewer than a thousand lobbyists when Reagan got elected, to something like 40,000 today.

Imagine that trend being reversed for the first time in 40 years, instead of increasing further as is likely under almost any other candidate (including trump who promised to reduce lobbyists, but instead did the standard Republican thing of appointing them to run the government and set policy).
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I hope to God Bernie wins then. I thought the Libertarian movement was on the verge of taking over the Republican party with Ron Paul and until Trump it seemed we were heading that direction but if it takes 4-8 years of Bernie to get Republicans to move more Libertarian I will be happy.
 
There is no possibility of Bernie Sanders ever becoming president because he is too left of the vast majority of American voters and the conservative media.
 
trouble13 said:
IF by some miracle he did become president. He would be impeached before his ass had time to warm the seat.
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God willing. I don't want a socialist (actually a communist given where his sympathies have been most of his life) as the leader of this country.
 
Jean-s said:
There is no possibility of Bernie Sanders ever becoming president because he is too left of the vast majority of American voters and the conservative media.
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Wrong about voters, though you're right about the media. First, his positions are the right ones, whatever the public thinks; but second, luckily, a good majority of the public agrees with his positions. The country's biggest enemy are the bitter Hillary corporatists fighting the progressives.
 
Dayton3 said:
God willing. I don't want a socialist (actually a communist given where his sympathies have been most of his life) as the leader of this country.
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Why would anyone care what someone who has so little idea what they're talking about wants? Maybe you don't want Bernie to be president because he's a Mayan priest wanting to sacrifice babies, too? Because he's a Charles Manson devotee who wants to legalize murder? Because he wants to kill all puppies?
 
Craig234 said:
I've long said the only actual agenda of the Republican Party is plutocracy, all the rest is to get votes to get power to get plutocracy. As long as they are getting power and plutocracy, they are just fine with the democratic system they exploit.

But the moment a Bernie Sanders wins and begins to support the rich getting a bit less to help the American people, you will see the right go full anti-democracy libertarian anarchist, and go to war against the very power of the American people to do much of anything through government. While you don't hear it under trump, they will start calling all government tyranny.

'If you can't beat them, destroy the system' will be the motto.

It's a strategy we haven't seen them have to use in the US, but we've seen elsewhere - for example, when Hugo Chavez was elected in Venezuela, the businesses shut down the economy for six months trying to use economic warfare to force the people to remove Chavez. Remove him, and you get your economy back. The peopel stood strong, I'm not sure we would.

But of course, if the right did that here, all the blame for the economic disaster would be placed by the right on Bernie, not the people actually causing it. This state of these plutocrats having that power of economic blackmail against the people of the country is why their power has to be reduced to where they 'only' get to get rich, not own our political system.

This post may not seem like it fits what we're seeing yet, but it's a comment on the changes we'd see when Bernie hopefully wins. And that's a change to our country we really need, a return to democracy and long-term more prosperity for the American people.

We can talk all day about the ever-increasing things like fewer than a thousand lobbyists when Reagan got elected, to something like 40,000 today.

Imagine that trend being reversed for the first time in 40 years, instead of increasing further as is likely under almost any other candidate (including trump who promised to reduce lobbyists, but instead did the standard Republican thing of appointing them to run the government and set policy).
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He'd die of heart attack if he won.
 
Dayton3 said:
God willing. I don't want a socialist (actually a communist given where his sympathies have been most of his life) as the leader of this country.
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There is a little thing called the Constitution.
 
Craig234 said:
Wrong about voters, though you're right about the media. First, his positions are the right ones, whatever the public thinks; but second, luckily, a good majority of the public agrees with his positions. The country's biggest enemy are the bitter Hillary corporatists fighting the progressives.
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Where do you get the idea that most voters (not the American people) would vote for a socialist?
 
Jean-s said:
Where do you get the idea that most voters (not the American people) would vote for a socialist?
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Note how carelessly and disingenuously you slide from the topic - his policies and the voters' approval of them - to ad hominem personal attacks on him, as well as dishonest ones? go read about the polls on voters and Bernie's policies and realize you are wrong on that as well as the slander.
 
So you are suggesting that if a democrat wins the republicans will act like the entire rat party has since 9 Nov 2016...a bunch of mindless retarded ****s bent only on hatred and resistance?

I suppose its possible.
 
Craig234 said:
It's the first time I've needed to say it to you, but: shut up.
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No idea why you have a problem with a little joke? You realize that Bernie doesn't want to win? He is in it for money.
 
Craig234 said:
Note how carelessly and disingenuously you slide from the topic - his policies and the voters' approval of them - to ad hominem personal attacks on him, as well as dishonest ones? go read about the polls on voters and Bernie's policies and realize you are wrong on that as well as the slander.
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I did not slander Bernie Sanders but you slandered me. You are getting yourself all worked up because you cannot understand plain English.
 
Jean-s said:
I did not slander Bernie Sanders but you slandered me. You are getting yourself all worked up because you cannot understand plain English.
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Yes, you did, and the truth is not slander about you. Did you go read the polls you were told to read? Of course not, that would be facts, and the truth is of no interest to you.
 
Craig234 said:
Yes, you did, and the truth is not slander about you. Did you go read the polls you were told to read? Of course not, that would be facts, and the truth is of no interest to you.
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Oh! I was told was I? You don't say.
 
Mashmont said:
How fitting a discussion of a Bernie presidency would evoke Hugo Chavez. Wonder how the US would end up under Sanders? Just look at Venezuela.
These leftwingers don't connect the dots, do they?
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Give me something for nothing, let me have what someone else worked for, tell me i'm not responsible for my own life decisions and I'll be just fine. Democrats cannot help it, the world owes them.
 
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