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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    He's not. Jabba the Hut isn't a rebel, he's just out for himself.
    Ah...then perfect for the image of Trump.

    In any event, where would you ever get that the people defending slavery were the good guys in Star Wars?

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Wow, running around with goal posts firmly in hand.

    And I see you can't discern the difference between casus belli and the excuse that God(s) in all their glory ordained the cause . Even the nazis had "gott mitt uns".
    The Bible was the premier document supporting the enslavement of black people.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Southerners are proud of their heritage; I don't see anything wrong with that.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Debator View Post
    No. You're going to have to. We are subtracting Confederate statues day by day, year by year. We ain't adding them. That's the way the culture is going and it's a good thing. Get beyond venerating racists and replace them with real southern heroes. Southerners that everyone can be proud of like MLKjr who fought for equality rather than against it. What's so wrong with that?
    I just saw a post of yours where you claimed you didn't get here until the 80s, but then you claim a lot of things that aren't true. What's your stake in this? You don't have one, other than pissing people off.
    I'm sorry if you don't like my honesty, but to be fair, I don't like your lies, either.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Southerners are proud of their heritage; I don't see anything wrong with that.
    Their "heritage" is racism. Nothing else separates them.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Debator View Post
    No. You're going to have to. We are subtracting Confederate statues day by day, year by year. We ain't adding them. That's the way the culture is going and it's a good thing. Get beyond venerating racists and replace them with real southern heroes. Southerners that everyone can be proud of like MLKjr who fought for equality rather than against it. What's so wrong with that?
    I don't believe you are who you say you are. You sound a little too familiar.
    I'm sorry if you don't like my honesty, but to be fair, I don't like your lies, either.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    I just saw a post of yours where you claimed you didn't get here until the 80s, but then you claim a lot of things that aren't true. What's your stake in this? You don't have one, other than pissing people off.
    I said my family didn't get here until the 80s. I was born in Miami in 81'. Don't know what's so unbelievable about that.

    As for why do I care? Because I'm decent person who doesn't want to have statues of dead racist up in public places in my country.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Southerners are proud of their heritage; I don't see anything wrong with that.
    That would be white southerners. And, what, particularly, reflected in the slave state flag, are they proud of?

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    That's the problem with hypotheticals; in essence they are fantasies. You can fantasize that the Confederacy was going to expand slavery all around the world so that it becomes righteous that Lincoln invade the South causing a war that killed almost 700,000 Americans including more civilian deaths, over 50,000, than in WWI.

    Dude, this thread is full of hate, mostly directed from North to South.
    Just like you can fantasize that there was some reasonable plan amenable to the south that could have peacefully ended slavery in something less than a couple generations. It's possible, but what we know is the north was NOT pushing to end slavery outright, and the south seceded when the only thing on the table was limiting the spread of slavery to new territories. So in 1860 there was no hope of any reasonable plan amenable to the south. In 20 years, who the hell knows what happens and what they might have agreed to, but in 1860 it was NOTHING threatening slavery in any way at all.

    And the hate isn't directed north to south, but to people making bogus Lost Cause arguments defending the south. I've lived my entire life in the former CSA, and I'm as disgusted with that attitude as anyone. I'm ashamed there are southerners still peddling that crap.

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    Re: The Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Southerners are proud of their heritage; I don't see anything wrong with that.
    I don't see anything wrong with being proud of MLKjr, John Lewis and all those great southern heroes. Definitely something wrong with you though if you're proud of slavery and the confederacy.

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