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The butt whacker turns out to be a youth minister and scout leader

Mashmont said:
Why would you say that? I don't call women 'baby' other than my wife and daughters. Shouldn't you be addressing the person who said I call my daughters and wife in a sexual manner that because I think they're 'hot'? That's the guy that doesn't understand this. Funny how you always seem to scold the wrong person.
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Are you referring to this? "Heres hoping that the implication of that word is different depending on the recipient. Would hate for someone to think you look at one of your daughters as a hot piece of ass. Reminds me of someone high profile and elected...…"

He didn't say what you're claiming here, and I think he understands exactly what's going on.

You, however, who have referred to the female reporter, a young woman, as "the reporter girl," a deliberate insult, called her "flighty," and apparently already decided she's lying when you posted "Certainly the type of girl who would lie about being grabbed in the butt is the kind of girl who should be trusted at her word, right?," pretend not to understand at all.

But just out of curiosity, have you even seen the vid clip? His arm motion is pretty obvious to me, and the reporter's reaction is genuine.
 
nota bene said:
Are you referring to this? "Heres hoping that the implication of that word is different depending on the recipient. Would hate for someone to think you look at one of your daughters as a hot piece of ass. Reminds me of someone high profile and elected...…"

He didn't say what you're claiming here, and I think he understands exactly what's going on.

You, however, who have referred to the female reporter, a young woman, as "the reporter girl," a deliberate insult, called her "flighty," and apparently already decided she's lying when you posted "Certainly the type of girl who would lie about being grabbed in the butt is the kind of girl who should be trusted at her word, right?," pretend not to understand at all.

But just out of curiosity, have you even seen the vid clip? His arm motion is pretty obvious to me, and the reporter's reaction is genuine.
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By even mentioning it, he implied it.

I think because the reporter girl accepted a trip to New York to blab about this minor event on national television shows you something about her lack of character. So no, I don't trust her to tell the truth. Especially when she says he grabbed her butt, when it was clear he passed by too fast for that, and she was wearing a heavy raincoat. Plus it would be very hard to 'hit hard' and grab at the same time. Also the fact that she didn't have the decency to accept his apology tells me she plans to milk this for all it's worth.

But I tell you what I'll do. If at some point she comes out and drops the charges and says forget it, I will come back on these pages and apologize for misjudging her. But I don't think she'll do that.
 
Rising Sun said:
Caved to the parents of the boys? No doubt....and also the right thing to do. Your rant about gays is interesting, but off-topic.

Who is "We"?
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When you're discussing the molestation of boys by men, homosexuality is involved 100% of the time. The RCC proved that when they banned gays from entering the seminary in 2005, and the molestation problem went down to virtually zero.
 
Rising Sun said:
Anyone who has Christian compassion will seek to protect the woman from unprovoked attacks.
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A Christian would never call this little slap an 'attack'. That would by lying.
 
Mashmont said:
Why would you say that? I don't call women 'baby' other than my wife and daughters. Shouldn't you be addressing the person who said I call my daughters and wife in a sexual manner that because I think they're 'hot'? That's the guy that doesn't understand this. Funny how you always seem to scold the wrong person.
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I also think the reporter girl won't let this go because she sees this big opportunity to hit the national stage when her talent alone would never get her there. She sees the Intellectually Impaired Greta Thunberg being awarded Time's Person of the Year, and thinks, "Damn. That could be me."
 
Mashmont said:
A Christian would never call this little slap an 'attack'. That would by lying.
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Except Rising Sun in this thread is a Christian and considers it an attack. So you would be lying.
 
Mashmont said:
By even mentioning it, he implied it.

I think because the reporter girl accepted a trip to New York to blab about this minor event on national television shows you something about her lack of character. So no, I don't trust her to tell the truth. Especially when she says he grabbed her butt, when it was clear he passed by too fast for that, and she was wearing a heavy raincoat. Plus it would be very hard to 'hit hard' and grab at the same time. Also the fact that she didn't have the decency to accept his apology tells me she plans to milk this for all it's worth.

But I tell you what I'll do. If at some point she comes out and drops the charges and says forget it, I will come back on these pages and apologize for misjudging her. But I don't think she'll do that.
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It won't make any difference, Mashmont. By then you will be on to some other misogynistic point.
 
Mashmont said:
When you're discussing the molestation of boys by men, homosexuality is involved 100% of the time. The RCC proved that when they banned gays from entering the seminary in 2005, and the molestation problem went down to virtually zero.
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ROFLMAO. Really? You mean when a man and a woman have sex, then heterosexuality is involved 100% of the time???? You are free to dodge all the questions you like and, given the humorous nature of your replies, it's actually preferred you do. :)

That said, your extreme dislike of gays is noted. However, this is a case of a sexually inappropriate behavior by a adult heterosexual male who should be mature enough to set a good example for kids. Obviously he is not a good example and the parents have a right to protect their kids from that type of "leader".
 
Mashmont said:
A Christian would never call this little slap an 'attack'. That would by lying.
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Interesting, but disagreed. In my church, if the pastor slapped the soloist on the butt or even her back it wouldn't be taken well by anyone. Obviously in your church, such behavior is condoned.
 
nota bene said:
It won't make any difference, Mashmont. By then you will be on to some other misogynistic point.
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See, here's where I differ from other men. I will not allow you to do the labeling. This was a trivial non-event. The man is not a misogynist. The misogynists are the ones who trivialize REAL sexual attacks by blowing this one out of proportion. So let's hope YOU don't be on some other misogynistic point in the future.
 
Mashmont said:
See, here's where I differ from other men. I will not allow you to do the labeling. This was a trivial non-event. The man is not a misogynist. The misogynists are the ones who trivialize REAL sexual attacks by blowing this one out of proportion. So let's hope YOU don't be on some other misogynistic point in the future.
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/// here's where I differ from other men /// <---- You haven't established you're a man by any stretch of the imagination. Even yours.
 
Mashmont said:
See, here's where I differ from other men. I will not allow you to do the labeling. This was a trivial non-event. The man is not a misogynist. The misogynists are the ones who trivialize REAL sexual attacks by blowing this one out of proportion. So let's hope YOU don't be on some other misogynistic point in the future.
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Disagreed on Tommy's misogyny. Men who respect women don't treat them as chattel.

This is a crime. Sure, it's not rape or even aggravated sexual battery, but it fits the definition of sexual battery. When Tommy pleads out, everyone will know he's guilty. It's people who trivialize this attack who are the misogynists.
 
Rising Sun said:
Disagreed on Tommy's misogyny. Men who respect women don't treat them as chattel.

This is a crime. Sure, it's not rape or even aggravated sexual battery, but it fits the definition of sexual battery. When Tommy pleads out, everyone will know he's guilty. It's people who trivialize this attack who are the misogynists.
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Blah blah. I'm sick of the divisive hyperbolic blather. This guy acted on a whim. Made a mistake. I'm tired of repeating it. He's most likely just a guy doing the best he can, lots of energy, raising a family, working, and volunteering. It's absolutely ridiculous to vilify him over this. It should never have made the national news, and it probably wouldn't have, had the paid activist leftwing twitter trolls not pushed it. Those people are horrible.
 
Mashmont said:
Blah blah. I'm sick of the divisive hyperbolic blather. This guy acted on a whim. Made a mistake. I'm tired of repeating it. He's most likely just a guy doing the best he can, lots of energy, raising a family, working, and volunteering. It's absolutely ridiculous to vilify him over this. It should never have made the national news, and it probably wouldn't have, had the paid activist leftwing twitter trolls not pushed it. Those people are horrible.
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/// It should never have made the national news. /// <---- It wouldn't have made any news at all if the idiot had kept HIS hands off of HER ass.
 
He was "caught up in the moment" apparently. So that's all right then... Not.
 
Mashmont said:
Blah blah. I'm sick of the divisive hyperbolic blather. This guy acted on a whim. Made a mistake. I'm tired of repeating it. He's most likely just a guy doing the best he can, lots of energy, raising a family, working, and volunteering. It's absolutely ridiculous to vilify him over this. It should never have made the national news, and it probably wouldn't have, had the paid activist leftwing twitter trolls not pushed it. Those people are horrible.
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That is some impassioned support of sexual assault.
 
ecofarm said:
That is some impassioned support of sexual assault.
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It was nowhere near sexual assault. Sexual assault is like when a woman is drugged then raped like Bill Cosby did. Or when a girl is falling-down drunk, and a guy takes advantage of her. THAT is the type of act that warrants very serious condemnation and punishment. Stop trivializing real sexual assault.
 
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Mashmont said:
Stop saying ridiculous stuff.
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A molester isn't a one time event. It's about power. He touched the boys. What will you say then.
 
Rising Sun said:
ROFLMAO. Really? You mean when a man and a woman have sex, then heterosexuality is involved 100% of the time???? You are free to dodge all the questions you like and, given the humorous nature of your replies, it's actually preferred you do. :)

That said, your extreme dislike of gays is noted. However, this is a case of a sexually inappropriate behavior by a adult heterosexual male who should be mature enough to set a good example for kids. Obviously he is not a good example and the parents have a right to protect their kids from that type of "leader".
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I don't dislike gays. But facts are facts. When they were disallowed from entering the seminary, sexual abuse dropped to near zero.

If my child was in a group run by this guy, it wouldn't have made a blip if he was otherwise a great guy which he appears to be. My wife and I were talking. We know energetic great guys who are just happen to be very demonstrative. We could see something like that happening with them. But it would mean nothing.

Interesting you people have no problem with creepy Joe Biden putting his hands all over women and girls, clearly to their discomfort. He's done a thousand times worse than this guy ever did. If he's the nominee, you're going to vote for him.
 
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Mashmont said:
Interesting you people have no problem with creepy Joe Biden putting his hands all over women and girls, clearly to their discomfort. He's done a thousand times worse than this guy ever did. If he's the nominee, you're going to vote for him.
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You just keep proving how wrong you are. Everything you've posted about me is false. You've repeatedly made false accusations about me and, because of all other false statements you've made throughout this thread along with your dancing around misogyny and homophobia, I do not trust a single thing you've said about yourself.
 
Rising Sun said:
You just keep proving how wrong you are. Everything you've posted about me is false. You've repeatedly made false accusations about me and, because of all other false statements you've made throughout this thread along with your dancing around misogyny and homophobia, I do not trust a single thing you've said about yourself.
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I haven't said anything about you or myself, while you just called me a misogynst and homophobe. And what does this have to do with Joe Biden?
 
Mashmont said:
I haven't said anything about you or myself
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Another false statement.
Mashmont said:
Interesting you people have no problem with creepy Joe Biden putting his hands all over women and girls, clearly to their discomfort. He's done a thousand times worse than this guy ever did. If he's the nominee, you're going to vote for him.
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Mashmont said:
If my child was in a group run by this guy, it wouldn't have made a blip if he was otherwise a great guy which he appears to be. My wife and I were talking.
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