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The Women are coming, the women are coming.....

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...to take over!


According to Steve Bannon, at least.



  • The former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon is reportedly terrified of the #MeToo movement — and thinks Oprah Winfrey poses an existential threat to President Donald Trump.
    [*]"Women are gonna take charge of society. And they couldn't juxtapose a better villain than Trump. He is the patriarch," the journalist Joshua Green quoted Bannon as saying in his book "Devil's Bargain."
    [*]


Scared yet, guys?
 
Can you provide examples of successful matriarchal societies?
 
Can you provide examples of successful matriarchal societies?

The UK for one and within that England in particular. On a wider scale, many of the golden ages of Europe transpired under the leadership of women.
 
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The UK for one and within that England in particular. On a wider scale, many of the golden ages of Europe transpired under the leadership of women.

You are misusing the term.
National leadership does not make a society patriarchal or matriarchal.
The day in, day out, lives of those in the society is what matters, I would argue.


Matriarchy is a social system in which females (most notably in mammals) hold the primary power positions in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. While those definitions apply in general English, definitions specific to the disciplines of anthropology and feminism differ in some respects. Most anthropologists hold that there are no known anthropological societies that are unambiguously matriarchal, but some authors believe exceptions may exist or may have. (wikipedia).

I am no big fan of wikipedea, you are free provide other sources for differing meanings.
No doubt your usage can be supported, by some sources, but I would argue against it.
 
You are misusing the term.
National leadership does not make a society patriarchal or matriarchal.
The day in, day out, lives of those in the society is what matters, I would argue.


Matriarchy is a social system in which females (most notably in mammals) hold the primary power positions in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. While those definitions apply in general English, definitions specific to the disciplines of anthropology and feminism differ in some respects. Most anthropologists hold that there are no known anthropological societies that are unambiguously matriarchal, but some authors believe exceptions may exist or may have. (wikipedia).

I am no big fan of wikipedea, you are free provide other sources for differing meanings.
No doubt your usage can be supported, by some sources, but I would argue against it.

That seems like a no true Scotsman fallacy. I would argue that any society with a female monarch could be considered a matriarchy as all authority in such a society stems from the crown.
 
And I just thought they were smiling funny
 
Can you provide examples of successful matriarchal societies?

Don't worry, matriarchy, in today's sense, isn't about subjugation of men to women.
 
By the title, I expected something entirely different with this thread!
 
Don't worry, matriarchy, in today's sense, isn't about subjugation of men to women.

It's seems to be getting awfully acceptable to finesse money away from men and give absolutely nothing in return. However, I think men are starting to wake up to this. It does my heart good to see a guy take his date to a coffee shop. That tells me that he is mindful of not investing too much in a woman until he gets something back.
 
It's seems to be getting awfully acceptable to finesse money away from men and give absolutely nothing in return. However, I think men are starting to wake up to this. It does my heart good to see a guy take his date to a coffee shop. That tells me that he is mindful of not investing too much in a woman until he gets something back.

Are we talking business venture?
 
Are we talking business venture?

Call it whatever you want. Men want sex. Refusing to acknowledge that is just fooling yourself. The funny thing is that women want sex too once they are conditioned to enjoy it. In the USA, #MeToo and wokeness has replaced the prudeness of Victorian mentality of years past. The prudeness is still there, it's just that #MeToo'ers have replaced the puritans.

I just love how women walk around half-dressed in Rio de Janeiro and it's OK to stare.
 
Call it whatever you want. Men want sex. Refusing to acknowledge that is just fooling yourself. The funny thing is that women want sex too once they are conditioned to enjoy it. In the USA, #MeToo and wokeness has replaced the prudeness of Victorian mentality of years past. The prudeness is still there, it's just that #MeToo'ers have replaced the puritans.

I just love how women walk around half-dressed in Rio de Janeiro and it's OK to stare.

Ok, but we recently had a discussion about sex before marriage being verboten. Now what?
Oh, and what conditioner works best?
 
Ok, but we recently had a discussion about sex before marriage being verboten. Now what?
Oh, and what conditioner works best?

The best conditioner is walking around half dressed and learning to be comfortable with being stared at. Owning being a sex object breaks down inhibitions.
 
Can you provide examples of successful matriarchal societies?

How exactly do you make the jump from having a female president or female leaders in both Congress and the POTUS as well as guaranteed equal rights for women that the US would suddenly become a matriarchal society? Are you suddenly afraid of being relegated to the 2nd class status that conservative males and organized monotheistic religions would seek to do to females

Carl Louis and Dick Fosbury have nothing on you.
 
That seems like a no true Scotsman fallacy. I would argue that any society with a female monarch could be considered a matriarchy as all authority in such a society stems from the crown.
I provide a documented source to support my understanding of the meaning of a word.
You offer a differing, unsupported, meaning of the word.

That is hardly a no true Scotsman fallacy. It a difference of opinion in the meaning of a word, mine supported, yours contrived.

So if the Queen dies, and the Prince becomes ruling monarch, and there are no other changes in society, the laws and customs that govern them, you would say a matriarchy has changed to a patriarchy.

Society is ruled by laws and customs.

Out of curiosity, if a female chimpanzee is declared monarch, is it still a matriarchy?

Add..
If the prince is gay, does that change anything?
Or transgender? When he becomes she, has society changed?
 
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Don't worry, matriarchy, in today's sense, isn't about subjugation of men to women.

I, for one, am quivering in terror at the prospect of the 'little lady' emasculating me and taking away my alpha male dominance and my Big Masculine Truck. No, that can't be right, I'm not a conservative.
 
women are already here. they are one of the three groups that white males think stole their birthright (women, blacks, mexicans).
 
Ok, but we recently had a discussion about sex before marriage being verboten. Now what?
Oh, and what conditioner works best?

(L'Oreal) Or so I'm reliably informed. Leaves your hair manageable and silky soft. Must be the jojoba.
 
Oh, yes, this is no longer "a man's world."

Women are definitely in the driver's seat: in divorce court, women usually win; if a woman accuses a man of inappropriate conduct, many people (including Secretary Clinton) feel that the man is guilty until proven innocent; California now mandates a percentage of ladies on governing boards of some companies; ladies charged with inappropriate conduct with minors always get a lesser punishment than men, etc.

This is now a woman's world.
 
Oh, yes, this is no longer "a man's world."

Women are definitely in the driver's seat: in divorce court, women usually win; if a woman accuses a man of inappropriate conduct, many people (including Secretary Clinton) feel that the man is guilty until proven innocent; California now mandates a percentage of ladies on governing boards of some companies; ladies charged with inappropriate conduct with minors always get a lesser punishment than men, etc.

This is now a woman's world.

And about time too. Poor conservative men; such helpless victims of vicious female oppression. My heart bleeds.
 
Call it whatever you want. Men want sex. Refusing to acknowledge that is just fooling yourself. The funny thing is that women want sex too once they are conditioned to enjoy it. In the USA, #MeToo and wokeness has replaced the prudeness of Victorian mentality of years past. The prudeness is still there, it's just that #MeToo'ers have replaced the puritans.

I just love how women walk around half-dressed in Rio de Janeiro and it's OK to stare.

You are so terrified of women....
 
(L'Oreal) Or so I'm reliably informed. Leaves your hair manageable and silky soft. Must be the jojoba.

Somehow I don't think that is what he is implying
Call it whatever you want. Men want sex. Refusing to acknowledge that is just fooling yourself. The funny thing is that women want sex too once they are conditioned to enjoy it. In the USA, #MeToo and wokeness has replaced the prudeness of Victorian mentality of years past. The prudeness is still there, it's just that #MeToo'ers have replaced the puritans.

I just love how women walk around half-dressed in Rio de Janeiro and it's OK to stare.
 
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