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Bill Barr Indicts 8 Including Mueller Top Witness for Funneling Millions in Foreign Donations

This is another example of a bad actor doing exactly what he accuses other people of doing. Half a dozen people go to jail around Trump, and he calls it a witch hunt. Now Barr, the most nakedly political Attorney General we've ever seen, delivers sealed indigents and you're already sure they're guilty because you were sure they were guilty so you don't need or want any evidence. Meanwhile you accuse Democrats of rushing to judgement against Trump, even though they held off for a year until the evidence piled up to the point that it was overwhelming. Trump has never exactly been shy about his corruption.
 
trixare4kids said:
Before anyone jumps on your source...
The above is mostly NOT being covered up by the anti-Trump, leftist bent biased media but since there is already another thread on this same subject, I read where CNN covered it. Every once in awhile, a blind squirrel of a reporter finds a nut. ;)
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I can't find any valid news organization that is saying that, not even fox news.
 
apdst said:
If Schiff took foreign campaign contributions, he'll have to step down, immediately and be charged with a felony.
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Barr would have to prove that the source of the contributions were known to the politicians who received them first. So no. All this shows is that the Citizens United decision must be overturned by Congress with a comprehensive campaign finance bill. It is long overdue.
 
Somerville said:
You might want to do a bit more reading on the subject. Yes, George Nader did funnel millions to Democratic candidates but he also gave $1 million to the Trump inauguration.
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Yep. He's met with numerous Trump officials, given money to trump and other republicans etc. If he did illegal things, investigate and and charge him and throw him in jail. Regardless of politics. That's the difference between Trump supporters and the rest of the country. This guy wasn't some democrat loyalist, but even if he was, if he was caught doing something we'd say to investigate and follow the law. If he were a republican they'd be screaming witch hunt and conspiracy theories. The law be damned.
 
Grim17 said:
Sorry, but it pretty much was. There was never any compelling evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, just an unverified, uncorroborated opposition research document obtained and compiled through foreign sources, that Hillary and the DNC paid for to specifically Smear Trump before the election.

The fact that so many on the left, including prominent democrats in DC, continue to push that baseless, phony narrative really saddens me.
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Trump was only one aspect of that investigation. It would be foolish to ignore the rest of the report and considering what it says, even more foolish to call the whole thing a hoax.
 
apdst said:
That went out the window 3 years ago. This is what you want the political landscape in The United States to look like. You asked for it. You got it.
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If it went out the window 3 years ago, then why do Trump supporters spit it up all over everyone else every single day?
 
chuckiechan said:
Justice Kavenaugh is on line one for you!
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You think that Kavanaugh was treated unfairly and you further think that due to that unfairness the Republican party would be justified in treating Democratic interests unfairly. Is that right?
 
snakestretcher said:
Here's a radical thought; how about banning all political contributions from anyone? What do politicians need the money for anyway; a bigger light show than the other guy? How about forcing these bastards to sell themselves on policy for a change? Give them all equal air time, and ban negative mud-slinging advertising about your opponent.
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As long as we used a good way to pay for it, I would support federal campaign financing for all national offices. Give them all an equal, small amount of money and say, "That's all you get. Spend it wisely."
 
Minutes ago.

"DOJ Watchdog report says FBI Russia probe was justified and untainted by political bias".
 
Nalu said:
If it went out the window 3 years ago, then why do Trump supporters spit it up all over everyone else every single day?
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To temind Lwftists that the Democrats have wiped their asses with The Constitution.
 
apdst said:
To temind Lwftists that the Democrats have wiped their asses with The Constitution.
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Oh, I see. Well, that's part of the race to the bottom. You support bad behavior because you think it serves your political interests. I don't.
 
snakestretcher said:
So explain to this ignorant Briton, and show me where, in 1A, there is any hint of a mention of campaign donations.
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It's part of Citizens United v. FEC. It redefined freedom of speech to include campaign contributions and also conferred personhood onto business entities. Some people consider it the most damaging ruling of a lifetime.
 
Cardinal said:
Maybe this will energize Republicans to agree to stricter standards for preventing foreign money from being funneled to American politicians. When the politicians were Republicans, they were bizarrely silent on the matter.
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Like so much else, not so bizarre any more.
 
Nalu said:
Trump was only one aspect of that investigation. It would be foolish to ignore the rest of the report and considering what it says, even more foolish to call the whole thing a hoax.
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He didn't say the entire report was invalid, or that the investigation into Russian election interference was a hoax. He said the Trump colluding with Russia narrative was a hoax.


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Hypothetical said:
but then you acknowledge that Barr's investigations may have merit, yes?
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If he has found wrongdoing then yes, the investigation has merit.

Even if it doesn't find wrongdoing it may have merit. Like Barr says, it depends on an adequate predicate.
 
Grim17 said:
He didn't say the entire report was invalid, or that the investigation into Russian election interference was a hoax. He said the Trump colluding with Russia narrative was a hoax.


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That's the second time you've attempted to translate this conversation and only made it worse. No one except you said that anyone said the entire report was invalid. We really don't need your help, but thanks for playing.
 
Nalu said:
You think that Kavanaugh was treated unfairly and you further think that due to that unfairness the Republican party would be justified in treating Democratic interests unfairly. Is that right?
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The democrats have lowered the bar so low only worms can wiggle over it.
 
apdst said:
How does it harm our democratic process?
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By further stacking the power and influence of the wealthy over those who are not.
 
iguanaman said:
Barr would have to prove that the source of the contributions were known to the politicians who received them first. So no. All this shows is that the Citizens United decision must be overturned by Congress with a comprehensive campaign finance bill. It is long overdue.
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The Left's ignorance of how our system works is astounding...lol
 
Deuce said:
By further stacking the power and influence of the wealthy over those who are not.
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Citizens United enabled Planned Parenthood to make political donations to the Democrats. Are you sure you want it overturned?
 
apdst said:
Citizens United enabled Planned Parenthood to make political donations to the Democrats. Are you sure you want it overturned?
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Yes, I would like to see citizens United overturned because Planned Parenthood is not the only group now allowed to make political donations.

The government is making it easier for “dark money” donors to go unnamed

The United States government is making it easier for “dark money” donors to keep their contributions, well, in the dark. The Treasury Department on Monday said it planned to end requirements that certain tax-exempt organizations identify their financial contributors on their tax returns.

The decision means groups such as the National Rifle Association, Planned Parenthood, and the AARP will no longer have to tell the IRS who’s giving them money.

The decision landed the same day as the Justice Department announced the arrest of Maria Butina, a Russian national with NRA ties who is accused of trying to influence US politics. Ethics experts say Treasury’s maneuver will make identifying activities like those Butina has been accused of even harder to track.

Labor unions, volunteer fire departments, issue advocacy groups, local chambers of commerce, veterans groups, community service clubs, and other so-called social welfare 501(c)(4) groups or those that don’t generally get tax-deductible contributions will be freed of requirements that they list the names or addresses of their donors on their annual returns with the IRS.
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Remember a woman by the name of Maria Butina?
 
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