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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCrider View Post
    Trump's approach works maybe once. After that's all BS.
    Have you ever negotiated the sale price of a house?

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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No point, sigh, in thinking about what could have been accomplished in the past three years had the sole focus not been on "getting" Trump one way or another. My concern is that should Trump be re-elected, will this counterproductive crap stop?
    Odds are, Trump will be reelected because the Democrats have nothing better to offer.

    The crap won’t stop. Accusations of “stealing the election” and other BS followed Bush for 8 years and then the attacks switched sides and Birtherism and accusation of Marxism followed Obama for 8 years.
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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    Like with Bill Clinton, everyone who voted for Trump should have known he was a unrepentant lying, draft-dodging coward. That type of personality doesn’t change. Like Clinton, everyone knew the stories of Trump’s drug use and serial sexual harassment of women. That type of personality doesn’t change. In short, in both cases, people either didn’t care and voted for them anyway or they were idiots who voted because they fell for the BS spewing from the lips of each candidate.
    Most people had no idea about the extent of Clinton's shortcomings. This was before the internet was popular, and cable news was in it's infancy. Unless you were a political junkie, you had no idea, and really no easy way to find out. Nowadays, all the information anyone needs is right at their fingertips, and everyone knows about Trump.

    So I would say that most people who voted for Clinton did NOT know about the extent of his shortcomings, whereas Trump supporters knew the extent of Trump's shortcomings, and supported him anyways. That is a big difference, too big to let you equate the two bases.
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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You can be irrational. I don't mind.
    You can never be "irrational" , when you have the "Art of the deal" in your corner(wink)
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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    Odds are, Trump will be reelected because the Democrats have nothing better to offer.

    The crap won’t stop. Accusations of “stealing the election” and other BS followed Bush for 8 years and then the attacks switched sides and Birtherism and accusation of Marxism followed Obama for 8 years.
    Numerous witnesses have testified under oath that Trump tried bribing a foreign government to interfere in American elections. That's a wee bit more than a baseless accusation. Trump's own COS Mulvaney admitted that this was what Trump was doing, and told America to "Get over it."
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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun View Post
    Odds are, Trump will be reelected because the Democrats have nothing better to offer.

    The crap won’t stop. Accusations of “stealing the election” and other BS followed Bush for 8 years and then the attacks switched sides and Birtherism and accusation of Marxism followed Obama for 8 years.
    With Trump winning by less than 200,000 votes in four key states, there is NO guarantee in that

    because the Democrats have nothing better to offer.
    Are you sure?
    Last edited by Luther; 12-08-19 at 11:35 AM.
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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Have you ever negotiated the sale price of a house?
    Yes, multiple times.

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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow View Post
    Yet, in the budget proposal from the Dems there was money for the wall..
    You're correct sir
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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Trump's approach is normal. It's practiced by sales departments everywhere. Years ago now, I decided to eliminate my cable service. They offered me several "deals" at reduced prices in an attempt to retain me as a customer. Unfortunately for them, I had already determined that I would eliminate cable service. There was no alternative deal to be had for them. There wasn't anthing wrong with their sales department at all. I simply wasn't interested in purchasing to product.
    That's a terrible analogy.

    When Trump fails to make a deal with Xi Jinping, he can't move on to another leader of China. He's stuck with Xi Jinping to make a deal. In your analogy, you would have no choice: If you wanted the internet, you have to pay that company whatever they wanted, or not get the internet.
    Supporting Trump, but claiming you are against racism...is like eating a Banana Split every day, but claiming you are against ice cream.

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    Re: Why Do You Suppose So Many Fell For Trumps "Art Of THe Deal" While Prez?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Have you ever negotiated the sale price of a house?
    Let's make this an accurate analogy: Have you ever tried to negotiate a house price when there is one, and only one, possible buyer for that house?

    No, you haven't. And neither have I.
    Supporting Trump, but claiming you are against racism...is like eating a Banana Split every day, but claiming you are against ice cream.

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