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Trump is the one who has caused all of the investigations since day one!

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I hear Trumpsters on this board complaining about Trump being investigated since day one and they blame the Dems. Did the Dems force him to tell the Russians to go after Hillary's emails? Did the Dems force his cronies to meet with the same Russians who were interfering with our election over 200 times and then lie about it? Several of those cronies went to jail for that. Did the Dems force Trump to fire Comey and then go on TV and tell the world he did it to stop the Russian investigation? Did the Dems force him to brag to the Russians in a secret meeting at the White House that he had fired Comey and now he would be under less pressure as the investigation was over? Guess he did not realize that the Russian would put the video out for all to see. Did the Dems force him to commit ten acts that Mueller said could be obstruction of justice? Did the Dems force him to try and use US tax dollars to lever an investigation by another foreign country, Ukraine, to try and hurt a political opponent? And did the Dems force him to apply his total blocking of all his personnel and info from the appropriate Congressional committees? And then you wonder why trump has been under investigation this whole time. Any other president would have already been impeached and removed for half of the stuff that Trump has done, but with the GOP in Trump's total control, nothing will happen and the Trumpsters will be happy, but the country will be much worse off. It will set a precedent for future presidents to follow. I never want to see or hear a Trump supporter or someone who supports the present GOP ever complain again about anything a Dem president does. I so remember the GOPers on this board calling Obama a dictator, what a laugh!!
 
independentusa said:
I hear Trumpsters on this board complaining about Trump being investigated since day one and they blame the Dems. Did the Dems force him to tell the Russians to go after Hillary's emails? Did the Dems force his cronies to meet with the same Russians who were interfering with our election over 200 times and then lie about it? Several of those cronies went to jail for that. Did the Dems force Trump to fire Comey and then go on TV and tell the world he did it to stop the Russian investigation? Did the Dems force him to brag to the Russians in a secret meeting at the White House that he had fired Comey and now he would be under less pressure as the investigation was over? Guess he did not realize that the Russian would put the video out for all to see. Did the Dems force him to commit ten acts that Mueller said could be obstruction of justice? Did the Dems force him to try and use US tax dollars to lever an investigation by another foreign country, Ukraine, to try and hurt a political opponent? And did the Dems force him to apply his total blocking of all his personnel and info from the appropriate Congressional committees? And then you wonder why trump has been under investigation this whole time. Any other president would have already been impeached and removed for half of the stuff that Trump has done, but with the GOP in Trump's total control, nothing will happen and the Trumpsters will be happy, but the country will be much worse off. It will set a precedent for future presidents to follow. I never want to see or hear a Trump supporter or someone who supports the present GOP ever complain again about anything a Dem president does. I so remember the GOPers on this board calling Obama a dictator, what a laugh!!
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19 minutes after Trump was inaugurated, the dems were going for impeachment. Can you please be freaking honest for once? Nancy Pelosi is a damn liar too, she hates the president and so do most of you. Hate is a strong emotion and I feel sorry for you.
 
independentusa said:
I hear Trumpsters on this board complaining about Trump being investigated since day one and they blame the Dems. Did the Dems force him to tell the Russians to go after Hillary's emails? Did the Dems force his cronies to meet with the same Russians who were interfering with our election over 200 times and then lie about it? Several of those cronies went to jail for that. Did the Dems force Trump to fire Comey and then go on TV and tell the world he did it to stop the Russian investigation? Did the Dems force him to brag to the Russians in a secret meeting at the White House that he had fired Comey and now he would be under less pressure as the investigation was over? Guess he did not realize that the Russian would put the video out for all to see. Did the Dems force him to commit ten acts that Mueller said could be obstruction of justice? Did the Dems force him to try and use US tax dollars to lever an investigation by another foreign country, Ukraine, to try and hurt a political opponent? And did the Dems force him to apply his total blocking of all his personnel and info from the appropriate Congressional committees? And then you wonder why trump has been under investigation this whole time. Any other president would have already been impeached and removed for half of the stuff that Trump has done, but with the GOP in Trump's total control, nothing will happen and the Trumpsters will be happy, but the country will be much worse off. It will set a precedent for future presidents to follow. I never want to see or hear a Trump supporter or someone who supports the present GOP ever complain again about anything a Dem president does. I so remember the GOPers on this board calling Obama a dictator, what a laugh!!
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And I don't want to hear you complain when we impeach the next dem president. I mean you all set this precedent.
 
By the way Clinton DESERVED to be impeached for lying under oath. You don't do that.
 
bradt99 said:
And I don't want to hear you complain when we impeach the next dem president. I mean you all set this precedent.
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Republicans also set precedent when they impeached Clinton...for lying under oath. Trump should testify under oath, too.

bradt99 said:
By the way Clinton DESERVED to be impeached for lying under oath. You don't do that.
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All the more reason to have Trump testify under oath.
 
bradt99 said:
19 minutes after Trump was inaugurated, the dems were going for impeachment. Can you please be freaking honest for once? Nancy Pelosi is a damn liar too, she hates the president and so do most of you. Hate is a strong emotion and I feel sorry for you.
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How sweet of you to feel sorry for own strawman. If Pelosi says she doesn't hate Trump then it's not for you to say she doesn't. You're not her and you certainly don't think or speak for her...so keep your hate mongering where it belongs...on your side of the aisle.
 
Moot said:
Republicans also set precedent when they impeached Clinton...for lying under oath. Trump should testify under oath, too.



All the more reason to have Trump testify under oath.
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If you want Trump to testify under oath, take him to court like Clinton was.

But you aren't going to get Trump to testify at any Congressional kangaroo court.
 
Moot said:
How sweet of you to feel sorry for own strawman. If Pelosi says she doesn't hate Trump then it's not for you to say she doesn't. You're not her and you certainly don't think or speak for her...so keep your hate mongering where it belongs...on your side of the aisle.
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Ironically, you've been doing a LOT of that.

Trump enforces border security? He must be doing it because of racism!

Trump investigates a former vice president? It MUST be because he wants to sink his campaign!

You get the picture, brah?
 
independentusa said:
I hear Trumpsters on this board complaining about Trump being investigated since day one and they blame the Dems. Did the Dems force him to tell the Russians to go after Hillary's emails? Did the Dems force his cronies to meet with the same Russians who were interfering with our election over 200 times and then lie about it? Several of those cronies went to jail for that. Did the Dems force Trump to fire Comey and then go on TV and tell the world he did it to stop the Russian investigation? Did the Dems force him to brag to the Russians in a secret meeting at the White House that he had fired Comey and now he would be under less pressure as the investigation was over? Guess he did not realize that the Russian would put the video out for all to see. Did the Dems force him to commit ten acts that Mueller said could be obstruction of justice? Did the Dems force him to try and use US tax dollars to lever an investigation by another foreign country, Ukraine, to try and hurt a political opponent? And did the Dems force him to apply his total blocking of all his personnel and info from the appropriate Congressional committees? And then you wonder why trump has been under investigation this whole time. Any other president would have already been impeached and removed for half of the stuff that Trump has done, but with the GOP in Trump's total control, nothing will happen and the Trumpsters will be happy, but the country will be much worse off. It will set a precedent for future presidents to follow. I never want to see or hear a Trump supporter or someone who supports the present GOP ever complain again about anything a Dem president does. I so remember the GOPers on this board calling Obama a dictator, what a laugh!!
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bradt99 said:
19 minutes after Trump was inaugurated, the dems were going for impeachment. Can you please be freaking honest for once? Nancy Pelosi is a damn liar too, she hates the president and so do most of you. Hate is a strong emotion and I feel sorry for you.
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bradt99, you didn't answer any of the questions. These are actions Trump took that brought on all the trouble he's facing. No comment on those? Just an unsubstantiated claim that the Dems were gunning for him since day one? And that Pelosi is a hater?
 
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bradt99 said:
And I don't want to hear you complain when we impeach the next dem president. I mean you all set this precedent.
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If the next Dem president is as corrupt as Trump, they deserve to be impeached.
 
independentusa said:
I hear Trumpsters on this board complaining about Trump being investigated since day one and they blame the Dems. Did the Dems force him <snip> . . .!!
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Using your logic I can blame the Dems for Trump being elected. They failed to nominate a candidate capable of defeating him in the GE. They failed to appeal to more than a slim majority of voters (damn Electoral College - what were the founding fathers thinking? You know those same idiots who had the wisdom to set up an impeachment process to get rid of guys like Trump). Yeah, it’s all the fault of the Dems for allowing Trump to win the election.

How’s that insurance plan working out?
 
Overitall said:
Using your logic I can blame the Dems for Trump being elected. They failed to nominate a candidate capable of defeating him in the GE. They failed to appeal to more than a slim majority of voters (damn Electoral College - what were the founding fathers thinking? You know those same idiots who had the wisdom to set up an impeachment process to get rid of guys like Trump). Yeah, it’s all the fault of the Dems for allowing Trump to win the election.

How’s that insurance plan working out?
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You didn't answer any of the questions either. Just going off on a tangent.
 
bradt99 said:
And I don't want to hear you complain when we impeach the next dem president. I mean you all set this precedent.
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Lol. They set the precedent of Trump sending his personal lawyer to coordinate a shake down of a foreign nation with a coveted meeting and military aid in exchange for a statement against a political rival and investigation of a debunked conspiracy theory?

Yeah....FOX is turning conservative brains to mush. You guys used to be the intellectuals.
 
independentusa said:
I hear Trumpsters on this board complaining about Trump being investigated since day one and they blame the Dems. Did the Dems force him to tell the Russians to go after Hillary's emails?
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Only a Democrat would open an investigation over a rally joke.

Did the Dems force his cronies to meet with the same Russians who were interfering with our election over 200 times and then lie about it?
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Mueller stated neither Trump or any campaign member conspired with Russia to effect the outcome of the election. You didn't know that.

Several of those cronies went to jail for that.
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Nobody went to jail for that

Did the Dems force Trump to fire Comey and then go on TV and tell the world he did it to stop the Russian investigation?
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That never happened

Did the Dems force him to brag to the Russians in a secret meeting at the White House that he had fired Comey and now he would be under less pressure as the investigation was over?
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No but the whole world heard Obama do that

Did the Dems force him to try and use US tax dollars to lever an investigation by another foreign country,
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Sorry, already determined he didn't

And did the Dems force him to apply his total blocking of all his personnel and info from the appropriate Congressional committees?
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Sorry, you can't hold a president for obstruction of Congress. He has immunity. Guess you didn't know that

And then you wonder why trump has been under investigation this whole time.
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Since every single post you made here is a lie, we all know why

Any other president would have already been impeached and removed for half of the stuff that Trump has done,
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Right, So Trump is smarter than 50 FBI agents, 2 dozen CIA Officials, 19 lawyers and 2500 witnesses. Didn't know that

but with the GOP in Trump's total control, nothing will happen and the Trumpsters will be happy, but the country will be much worse off. It will set a precedent for future presidents to follow. I never want to see or hear a Trump supporter or someone who supports the present GOP ever complain again about anything a Dem president does. I so remember the GOPers on this board calling Obama a dictator, what a laugh!!
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Its obvious you are just spewing some debunked talking points from the failed CNN clown show but you keep worshiping at the altar of CNN. Its what we expect you to do.
 
hermit said:
You didn't answer any of the questions either. Just going off on a tangent.
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The OP was nothing more than a tangent. A tangent deserves a tangent.
 
independentusa;1071000635 Did the Dems force him to tell the Russians to go after Hillary's emails? [/QUOTE said:
This is the stupidest claim the left makes. Trump mocked Hillary during a news conference: "Hillary can't find her 30,000 emails. Russia, if you can hear me, help Hillary find her emails". That the left is trying to use this as evidence of an offense shows they are completely dishonest and unfit to serve. Period.
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Moot said:
Republicans also set precedent when they impeached Clinton...for lying under oath. Trump should testify under oath, too.



All the more reason to have Trump testify under oath.
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Wrong. Nothing said that clinton had to testify. He could have chosen not to testify.

Once you choose to testify you are under oath to tell the truth or face perjury charges.

Clinton chose to lie on the stand in sworn testimony.

No one did that but him. Trump doesn't have to testify. Leftist prove once again they have no clue what they are talking about.
 
Moot said:
How sweet of you to feel sorry for own strawman. If Pelosi says she doesn't hate Trump then it's not for you to say she doesn't. You're not her and you certainly don't think or speak for her...so keep your hate mongering where it belongs...on your side of the aisle.
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If leftist can project onto other people and get away with it so can we. Sorry but hypocrisy always bites you in the ass.

Just like Pelosi said on impeachment.
We need bipartisan support and overwhelming support from the people. That it shouldn't be a one sided situation.

Yet she has none of that. She is a ****ing liar and I would call that to her face.
 
bradt99 said:
By the way Clinton DESERVED to be impeached for lying under oath. You don't do that.
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I agree and he should have resigned, but Trump deserves to be impeached for so many things that I can not count that high.
 
Mycroft said:
If you want Trump to testify under oath, take him to court like Clinton was.

But you aren't going to get Trump to testify at any Congressional kangaroo court.
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Your answer shows you do not support our constitution and the separation of powers, you only support Trump. Dismissed!
 
KevinKohler said:
Ironically, you've been doing a LOT of that.

Trump enforces border security? He must be doing it because of racism!

Trump investigates a former vice president? It MUST be because he wants to sink his campaign!

You get the picture, brah?
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Nothing in the impeachment is about border security or racism, it is about trump's acts as I have pointed out in my OP. Instead of trying to deflect, try and argue the facts for once. And yes he tried to have an investigation against Biden announced by Ukraine to the world. Doesn't it make you wonder why he only wanted it announced and not the real investigation. For political purposes, Trump did not need a real investigation which Ukraine had already done, he just needed the announcement to hurt Biden and that has already happened.
 
independentusa said:
Your answer shows you do not support our constitution and the separation of powers, you only support Trump. Dismissed!
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I don't support a Party using their Congressional powers for political purposes.

You shouldn't either.
 
Overitall said:
Using your logic I can blame the Dems for Trump being elected. They failed to nominate a candidate capable of defeating him in the GE. They failed to appeal to more than a slim majority of voters (damn Electoral College - what were the founding fathers thinking? You know those same idiots who had the wisdom to set up an impeachment process to get rid of guys like Trump). Yeah, it’s all the fault of the Dems for allowing Trump to win the election.

How’s that insurance plan working out?
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You know what the founding fathers were thinking, to get the slave states to sign off on the constitution, they needed to insure them that although their states had smaller "voting" populations, that the states with greater "voting" populations would not take their slaves away. Thus we have the Electoral college, which gives the states with smaller "voting" populations at the time the ability to keep heir slaves. That is what you are voicing your approval of. Ain't that great!!
 
Condor060 said:
Only a Democrat would open an investigation over a rally joke.



Mueller stated neither Trump or any campaign member conspired with Russia to effect the outcome of the election. You didn't know that.



Nobody went to jail for that



That never happened



No but the whole world heard Obama do that



Sorry, already determined he didn't



Sorry, you can't hold a president for obstruction of Congress. He has immunity. Guess you didn't know that



Since every single post you made here is a lie, we all know why



Right, So Trump is smarter than 50 FBI agents, 2 dozen CIA Officials, 19 lawyers and 2500 witnesses. Didn't know that



Its obvious you are just spewing some debunked talking points from the failed CNN clown show but you keep worshiping at the altar of CNN. Its what we expect you to do.
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I will try and answer one at a time. First, you say it was a rally joke and yet right afterward the Russians, and I do mean the Russians, began to dump the stuff they stole of the DNC server. Second, Mueller did not say that trump and his cronies did not collude with Russia. He did say there was not enough evidence to prove in court it had happened, totally different from what you wrote and anyone with a brain would understand the difference. Trump did fire Comey and their are video's of trump saying that he was thinking of the Russian investigation when he fired Comey. Unless you are unwilling by pure blindness or by listening to Trump tell you so, yo have to believe your eyes and ears. And yes the Russian put out a video showing trump tell the world he had fired Comey and now was under less pressure. Again, open you eyes and ears. And there is no question that trump levered the Ukraine government to hold an investigation by using our tax dollars. Some of that money had still not gotten to Ukraine even though trump and the GOP have told you that it has. !4% is still not been given. And unless you know nothing about the constitution, the President can be charged with obstructing the Congress, it was part of the impeachment articles against Nixon and the one that forced Nixon to resign. So all of your crap is just the real lies here.
 
Overitall said:
The OP was nothing more than a tangent. A tangent deserves a tangent.
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Ah a perfect answer when you have no argument. Say nothing or deflect, that is all that trumpsters have to fight with, since they really know the truth, but they want trump no matter what he has done. That state of mind is either lunacy or treason.
 
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