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"This Impeachment Is Different"

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POLITICO:

[h=2]This Impeachment
Is Different

[/h][h=2]Americans haven't been this siloed since the Civil War.
Here's how to prevent a bigger breakdown.
The norms should be different in the context of impeachment, even if that means networks and platforms would be less profitable. Not because this President, in particular, must be respected, but because any President charged with impeachment deserves a nation that at least understands the charge. If we as a people are to be persistently read because persistently legible, then at least we should know enough in common to make judgments in common.[/h][h=2]That would mean that television networks take impeachment as seriously as a civic matter as they now treat it as an entertainment matter. Fox, MSNBC and the others should push opinion-based reporting to the side, and place journalism-based news in prime time. They all must take responsibility for their audience understanding the facts, more than simply rallying its side to its own partisan understanding.
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--Cable television news is a consumer product, but in a time when impeachment is in process, it is incumbent upon ALL networks to commit and re-commit, every single day, to the public service approach.
In a time of great national peril, this is no longer an option, it is an obligation.
The Impeachment of the President is not the SuperBowl.[/h]
 
Americans on the whole are getting tired of the endless politically inspired BS thrown at the Trump administration by the Dems and the media, and wish Washington would just get back to work. it is what It is.
 
Grandpappy said:
Americans on the whole are getting tired of the endless politically inspired BS thrown at the Trump administration by the Dems and the media, and wish Washington would just get back to work. it is what It is.
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When were you selected or elected to speak for three hundred millions people?
 
Grandpappy said:
Americans on the whole are getting tired of the endless politically inspired BS thrown at the Trump administration by the Dems and the media, and wish Washington would just get back to work. it is what It is.
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Actually most Americans think that our presidents should be held to our laws and don't get a free pass to violate them without consequence.

Most people respect Congress's constitutional right of oversight but there are always cultists like yourself who hate our Constitution and want to see our way of life destroyed.
 
Grandpappy said:
Americans on the whole are getting tired of the endless politically inspired BS thrown at the Trump administration by the Dems and the media, and wish Washington would just get back to work. it is what It is.
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A majority of Americans support impeachment.
 
The facts are that Trump broke no laws, and there is no case for impeachment. As I said before, it is what it is.
 
Grandpappy said:
The facts are that Trump broke no laws, and there is no case for impeachment. As I said before, it is what it is.
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What definitions of "high crimes and misdemeanors" are you using?
 
Moonglow said:
When were you selected or elected to speak for three hundred millions people?
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Look, we know Democrats hate Trump (yes hate). You've been wanting to impeach him since before he even took office. It's not a surprise. We've had three years to understand your feelings. Nothing new, other than your TDS has progressed in severity.
 
The Democrats are criminally insane; the greatest danger the country has ever faced.
 
Cardinal said:
A majority of Americans support impeachment.
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"Opinion is moving in a narrow range. Republicans oppose impeaching the president, Democrats favor the action. Independents are split. Polling in some key 2020 states suggests less support than the national polls for impeaching and removing Donald Trump. The president’s overall approval rating has hardly budged—in late September in the RealClearPolitics average of polls has him at 44%. But a closer examination of the polls unearths some meaningful findings that haven’t received much media attention."

Read about that here:
More On Impeachment Polls
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
POLITICO:

[h=2]This Impeachment
Is Different

[/h][h=2]Americans haven't been this siloed since the Civil War.
Here's how to prevent a bigger breakdown.



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--Cable television news is a consumer product, but in a time when impeachment is in process, it is incumbent upon ALL networks to commit and re-commit, every single day, to the public service approach.
In a time of great national peril, this is no longer an option, it is an obligation.
The Impeachment of the President is not the SuperBowl.[/h]
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This Impeachment
Is Different
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Yes, sex isn't at the heart of this one
 
trixare4kids said:
"Opinion is moving in a narrow range. Republicans oppose impeaching the president, Democrats favor the action. Independents are split. Polling in some key 2020 states suggests less support than the national polls for impeaching and removing Donald Trump. The president’s overall approval rating has hardly budged—in late September in the RealClearPolitics average of polls has him at 44%. But a closer examination of the polls unearths some meaningful findings that haven’t received much media attention."

Read about that here:
More On Impeachment Polls
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There is greater supporter for impeachment by 3.9%, 47.7% to 43.8%. What’s interesting about that latter number is that it is exactly identical to his aggregate ceiling approval. As for the first number (47.7%), that is 4.8 points lower than his overall disapproval, which tells me there is still room for impeachment support to grow.

Do Americans Support Impeaching Trump? | FiveThirtyEight
How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

But of course, our elections are determined by the electoral college, so a more informative poll is one that determines impeachment support by state, and we have that. Going state by state, looking at support for impeachment and tallying their respective electoral votes, Trump loses the EC by just over 100 votes.


https://civiqs.com/results/trump_impeachment?uncertainty=true&annotations=true&zoomIn=true
 
I don't feel siloed.
 
Cardinal said:
There is greater supporter for impeachment by 3.9%, 47.7% to 43.8%. What’s interesting about that latter number is that it is exactly identical to his aggregate ceiling approval. As for the first number (47.7%), that is 4.8 points lower than his overall disapproval, which tells me there is still room for impeachment support to grow.

Do Americans Support Impeaching Trump? | FiveThirtyEight
How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

But of course, our elections are determined by the electoral college, so a more informative poll is one that determines impeachment support by state, and we have that. Going state by state, looking at support for impeachment and tallying their respective electoral votes, Trump loses the EC by just over 100 votes.


https://civiqs.com/results/trump_impeachment?uncertainty=true&annotations=true&zoomIn=true
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Support for impeachment among Independents has dropped in recent polls. Look at your source again.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
POLITICO:

[h=2]This Impeachment
Is Different

[/h][h=2]Americans haven't been this siloed since the Civil War.
Here's how to prevent a bigger breakdown.



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--Cable television news is a consumer product, but in a time when impeachment is in process, it is incumbent upon ALL networks to commit and re-commit, every single day, to the public service approach.
In a time of great national peril, this is no longer an option, it is an obligation.
The Impeachment of the President is not the SuperBowl.[/h]
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I find it laughable that an outfit with such an extreme liberal bias as Politico, would be calling for neutrality in reporting.

They must think their followers are really stupid.
 
Moderate Right said:
Look, we know Democrats hate Trump (yes hate). You've been wanting to impeach him since before he even took office. It's not a surprise. We've had three years to understand your feelings. Nothing new, other than your TDS has progressed in severity.
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I personally have never wanted or have I tried to impeach Trump. Again you try to speak for me because you have a very weak argument and are delusional.
 
Cardinal said:
Yes, nationally, but so what?
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It means support for impeachment is dropping with a key group the Democrats need in order to win the 2020 election among Independents but go ahead and keep telling yourself, "so what".
 
trixare4kids said:
It means support for impeachment is dropping with a key group the Democrats need in order to win the 2020 election among Independents but go ahead and keep telling yourself, "so what".
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All I'm concerning myself with is the question, "What is the overall support for impeachment per state?" And the answer is that, per state, impeachment support as a standalone metric leads to Trump losing by exactly 70 votes. Earlier I said "over a hundred votes," and I was wrong. This is a map calculated exclusively by impeachment support and its conclusion.

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https://civiqs.com/results/trump_im...otations=true&zoomIn=true&home_state=Michigan
2020 Presidential Election Interactive Map
 
Personally I believe this rush to impeach by the Democrats will come to bite them hard in 2020. It reeks of a partisan hack job that their friends in the media have promoted. It has been that way since Trump won the election and there are several signs that the people are tuning it out. Those cable stations like CNN that are 24/7 anti Trump are losing viewership because people are tired of it. Democrats are losing support especially with Independents. It is my opinion this whole impeachment exercise will be Pelosi's Waterloo.
 
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