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    GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    High-ranking Republicans are now defending the president with debunked claims that national security experts say play right into Putin's hands.


    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) and Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC). Pushing Kremlin disinformation.

    12/5/19
    Just how far will Republicans go in following President Donald Trump’s embrace of Russia? An answer may be crystallizing as the GOP mobilizes its defense of the president against impeachment. Both congressional Republicans and conservative commentators are defending Trump from impeachment partly by accusing Ukraine of intervening against him in the 2016 presidential election—despite repeated warnings from national-security and intelligence officials that those claims are not only baseless, but advance Vladimir Putin’s goal of discrediting Ukraine. Earlier in Trump’s presidency, many Republicans sought to distance themselves from his warm tone toward Putin. But just this week alone, a number of Republican lawmakers, the official House Republican report rebutting impeachment, and the Fox News host Tucker Carlson have repeated Kremlin lines on Ukraine. This flurry of GOP rhetoric comes as Democrats are raising alarm about the Republican-controlled Senate’s refusal to take action on the DETER Act, a bipartisan bill that would impose sanctions on Russia if it interferes again in 2020. Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, the act’s sponsor, has been unsuccessfully pressing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to attach the bill to a defense-authorization bill now in conference between the House and Senate, which would ensure its passage. “Nobody has provided any substantive justification for opposing this measure,” Van Hollen told me in an interview. “All the testimony has been supportive of the DETER Act. And yet when you get behind closed doors, it’s not that anyone says they are opposed to it; they just won’t engage. McConnell would like to see this defeated without any of his fingerprints on it, but his fingerprints are there because he has refused to engage.”

    Impeachment is now providing a new test case to measure how far Trump has steered congressional Republicans toward greater accommodation of Russia. This new front opened when Representative Devin Nunes of California, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, repeatedly insisted during last month’s impeachment hearings that Ukraine had meddled in the 2016 election against Trump. That drew a stern rebuke from one witness asked to testify, the former Trump National Security Council adviser Fiona Hill, who warned that congressional Republicans were spreading “a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.” But Hill’s words have not stopped Republicans from reprising those arguments. In late November, Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana claimed during a television interview that Ukraine, not Russia, might have hacked the Democratic National Committee’s computers in 2016. The Senate Intelligence Committee, during its investigation of 2016 election meddling, found no evidence of Ukrainian interference. Republican foreign-policy experts are still worried about the attempts by GOP leaders to defend Trump by disparaging Ukraine. “It’s one thing if Putin says these things, or if Kremlin spokespeople say these things; people, I hope, will take it with a gigantic mountain of salt. But when you have U.S. elected leaders saying these things, it gives it a significant dose of credibility, and that’s not a good thing.” The accusations against Ukraine have drawn forceful pushback this week from Democrats, but only a few Republicans—most directly Senator Mitt Romney of Utah—have openly condemned them. “What you are seeing unfortunately is Republicans wanting to just adopt and parrot the Trump talking points, which also coincide with the Putin talking points,” Van Hollen said.
    For reasons we don't yet understand, Donald Trump has embraced the brutal Putin regime since early in his 2016 election campaign. In their efforts to protect Trump from impeachment charges that he engaged in a political shakedown of Ukraine using US taxpayer funds as collateral, the GOP is resorting to defend Trump by borrowing Kremlin disinformation from Moscow's hybrid warfare against Ukraine. And after six months, GOP Senate Majority Leader "Moscow" Mitch McConnell has still not brought up the bipartisan DETER Act for a vote on the Senate floor.


    Unless some Senate Republicans break ranks, this won't be a trial — it will be a cover-up.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    High-ranking Republicans are now defending the president with debunked claims that national security experts say play right into Putin's hands.


    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) and Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC). Pushing Kremlin disinformation.



    For reasons we don't yet understand, Donald Trump has embraced the brutal Putin regime since early in his 2016 election campaign. In their efforts to protect Trump from impeachment charges that he engaged in a political shakedown of Ukraine using US taxpayer funds as collateral, the GOP is resorting to defend Trump by borrowing Kremlin disinformation from Moscow's hybrid warfare against Ukraine. And after six months, GOP Senate Majority Leader "Moscow" Mitch McConnell has still not brought up the bipartisan DETER Act for a vote on the Senate floor.
    It is stunning that they continue to promote something that they have been briefed is a Russian intelligence directive.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

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    GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    High-ranking Republicans are now defending the president with debunked claims that national security experts say play right into Putin's hands.


    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) and Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC). Pushing Kremlin disinformation.



    For reasons we don't yet understand, Donald Trump has embraced the brutal Putin regime since early in his 2016 election campaign. In their efforts to protect Trump from impeachment charges that he engaged in a political shakedown of Ukraine using US taxpayer funds as collateral, the GOP is resorting to defend Trump by borrowing Kremlin disinformation from Moscow's hybrid warfare against Ukraine. And after six months, GOP Senate Majority Leader "Moscow" Mitch McConnell has still not brought up the bipartisan DETER Act for a vote on the Senate floor.
    Don't understand? They helped Trump win the election! What is there to not understand?
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Democrats seem to want to put all the blame onto Trump and yes, he is to blame for his crimes. But even worse than Trump committing crimes are the republicans who are aiding and abetting his committing crimes and even more, trying to keep Trump in the White House despite the fact that they know very well that he will continue to do things that are unconstitutional and a threat to this country.

    Why would any of these Senators still protect Trump if they know that? That question has been asked by thousands of people and nobody can really pin down the reason for their blind allegiance to Trump, no matter what he does. Everyone assumes it's because each of them is just trying to save themselves and keep his or her job in Congress.

    This is what I believe, I may be totally wrong but it's the only good reason that I can come up with to justify their denial of facts. I think this all begins with Mitch McConnell, not Trump. I believe the power lies behind Mitch McConnell.

    Republicans have nominated and passed 171 Federal judges since 2017 and will try to get ten more nominees confirmed to the federal bench by the next election. If people aren't following these appointments closely, which most aren't, they wouldn't know that many of these judges are being confirmed against the advice of the American Bar Assoc.

    Two days ago, Sarah Pitlyk age 42, was rated unqualified by the American Bar Association. Pitlyk is a former appellate law clerk for now-U.S. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh who works for the Thomas More Society, the “national public interest law firm dedicated to restoring respect in law for life, family, and religious liberty.” According to the ABA, "her experience to date has a very substantial gap, namely the absence of any trial or even real litigation experience." So this young woman, at 42 years of age, despite the ABA stating she is not qualified to be confirmed as a federal judge, was confirmed and will have a job as a federal judge for the rest of her life. There's another confirmation hearing for appeals court nominee Andrew Brasher. If confirmed, the 38-year-old would be among the youngest circuit court judges. He has received a 'qualified' grade from the ABA.

    Mitch McConnell is setting up federal judges that are right and even far-right conservatives that will sit on the bench for the remainder of their lives. Ultimately this will change the laws in this country exponentially and permanently. It's a power grab unlike any seen before and it's all because of Mitch McConnell. He has stalled more than 500 bills in the Senate and he's taking candidates for federal judgeship's on the recommendation of the Heritage Foundation.

    The Heritage Foundation is basically a conservative think-tank and one of the most influential conservative public policy organizations in the United States. The Heritage Foundation was a major influence on the presidential transition of Donald Trump and the Trump administration.The foundation had a powerful say in the staffing of the administration. The Heritage Foundation rejects the scientific consensus on climate change. The Heritage Foundation is one of many climate change denial organizations that have been funded by Exxon Mobil. The Heritage Foundation - Wikipedia

    So the bottom line in my way of thinking is that Mitch McConnell and the other republicans are willing to put up with Trump, try to do damage control when they can, lie and cover up when they can't and keep him in office as long as possible. All this for control of the federal courts for 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years. I think that to men like Mitch McConnell he would see that as a 'noble cause' and feel good about himself and totally unapologetic for Trump.










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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    High-ranking Republicans are now defending the president with debunked claims that national security experts say play right into Putin's hands.


    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) and Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC). Pushing Kremlin disinformation.



    For reasons we don't yet understand, Donald Trump has embraced the brutal Putin regime since early in his 2016 election campaign. In their efforts to protect Trump from impeachment charges that he engaged in a political shakedown of Ukraine using US taxpayer funds as collateral, the GOP is resorting to defend Trump by borrowing Kremlin disinformation from Moscow's hybrid warfare against Ukraine. And after six months, GOP Senate Majority Leader "Moscow" Mitch McConnell has still not brought up the bipartisan DETER Act for a vote on the Senate floor.

    Trump gave Ukraine lethal weaponry. Obama didn't. Trump requested $17M for the European Deterrence Initiative. Obama requested $5M. Obama slashed defense spending. Trump has greatly increased it. Trump has aggressively sought US energy independence. Obama, not so much. Obama also failed to enforce his "red line" in Syria while Trump went about decimating ISIS which gave more stability to the region lessening Russia's ability to take advantage of chaos there.

    Trump. it is clear, has been much tougher on Russia than Obama.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Trump gave Ukraine lethal weaponry. Obama didn't. Trump requested $17M for the European Deterrence Initiative. Obama requested $5M. Obama slashed defense spending. Trump has greatly increased it. Trump has aggressively sought US energy independence. Obama, not so much. Obama also failed to enforce his "red line" in Syria while Trump went about decimating ISIS which gave more stability to the region lessening Russia's ability to take advantage of chaos there.

    Trump. it is clear, has been much tougher on Russia than Obama.
    Oh, you can't say that. People get their feewings hurt when you remind them of the 150 Russians Trump killed or the 60 Russian Oligarchs he expelled from the US or giving lethal aid to Ukraine.

    Only the most idiotic Liberal still lives under the Russia Russia Russia conspiracy rock. I am convinced they can talk themselves into anything.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Tweet by Olexander Sherba, Ukraine's Ambassador to Austria,

    olexander scherba✔
    @olex_scherba
    Putin isn’t just fighting Ukraine. He is fighting the whole world order, created by Reagan.
    He is dismantling the Reagan legacy. So far - successfully. Weirdly, with enthusiastic help of some ppl in the US.

    7:44 AM - Dec 6, 2019 · Vienna, Austria
    The ambassador is spot-on. I imagine "some ppl" is a reference to Rudy Colludy, Devin Nunes, Tucker Carlson, etc.


    Unless some Senate Republicans break ranks, this won't be a trial — it will be a cover-up.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Trump gave Ukraine lethal weaponry. Obama didn't. Trump requested $17M for the European Deterrence Initiative. Obama requested $5M. Obama slashed defense spending. Trump has greatly increased it. Trump has aggressively sought US energy independence. Obama, not so much. Obama also failed to enforce his "red line" in Syria while Trump went about decimating ISIS which gave more stability to the region lessening Russia's ability to take advantage of chaos there.

    Trump. it is clear, has been much tougher on Russia than Obama.
    Whataboutism.

    The US Gang Of Putin party is shilling Russian disinformation.


    Unless some Senate Republicans break ranks, this won't be a trial — it will be a cover-up.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Quote Originally Posted by Condor060 View Post
    Oh, you can't say that. People get their feewings hurt when you remind them of the 150 Russians Trump killed or the 60 Russian Oligarchs he expelled from the US or giving lethal aid to Ukraine.

    Only the most idiotic Liberal still lives under the Russia Russia Russia conspiracy rock. I am convinced they can talk themselves into anything.
    Your avatar looks like the American flag printed partially on the surface of a tin of anchovies. Canned faux patriotism.



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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Used to Oppose Trump’s Embrace of Russia. No More.

    Impeachment proceedings should have been started on this years ago tbh. It feels like it is too late.

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