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Adam Schiff's Attack On The Free Press

Condor060 said:
Do you even have a memory? This isn't new news.

Phone Records of Journalists of The Associated Press Seized by U.S. - The New York Times
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LOL That was the CIA doing it's job which has become crime only recently in the Trump Administration. Searching for possible "moles" that endanger National Security is a legitimate concern. From your link.....

AP noted that Machen's office is reportedly conducting a criminal investigation to uncover the source of information that AP published in a story on May 7, 2012 about a foiled terror plot. The story provided details of a CIA operation in Yemen that halted an al-Qaida plot to detonate a bomb on an airplane headed to the U.S.
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apdst said:
The Supreme Court can't give the Legislative Branch more power than The Constitution allows it to have.

By your logic, the Supreme Court can declare war.
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It's part of Congress' legislative powers. Crafting legislation and impeachment powers require the capacity to make inquiries, otherwise those aren't powers.

By your logic, Congress cannot possibly impeach a president ever because they have no capacity whatsoever to gather evidence.
 
ocean515 said:
From the OP:
But Solomon isn’t under criminal investigation for bad journalism, and he wasn’t a witness in the inquiry. It’s none of Schiff’s business whom Solomon speaks to over the phone. He is free to call Lev Parnas, or whomever else he pleases, as often as he pleases. Journalists often speak to shady characters like Parnas, and they shouldn’t have to worry that some power-drunk congressman is rummaging through their call logs.​

On what grounds did Schiff have to seek records on Solomon? As the author of the article in the OP stated, Soloman wasn't a witness, and what Solomon does is not business of Schiff's.

So explain the grounds.
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Another instance where a Democrat's use of federal agencies calls into question sufficient predicate for the government intrusion, overstep, overreach.

First time this became a national issue was when Barr was testifying before congress about the Obama administration's spying on the Trump campaign.

And here is the same thing again. I think the Democrats are a real and present danger, a threat to the liberties and freedoms the US electorate presently enjoy. Such people who have this predilection do not belong in high public office, nor any public office, frankly.
 
eohrnberger said:
Another instance where a Democrat's use of federal agencies calls into question sufficient predicate for the government intrusion, overstep, overreach.

First time this became a national issue was when Barr was testifying before congress about the Obama administration's spying on the Trump campaign.

And here is the same thing again. I think the Democrats are a real and present danger, a threat to the liberties and freedoms the US electorate presently enjoy. Such people who have this predilection do not belong in high public office, nor any public office, frankly.
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I agree they don't belong anywhere near high office, or public service. And they are a clear and present danger.

Their acolytes are too indoctrinated, and/or intellectually vacant, to recognize what they are doing, and the danger this attitude and action possess to the country.
 
apdst said:
An outright violation of the 4th Amendment. Pelosi is trying to become a dictator.
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Someone is. But who said "we ought to give that (dictatorship) a shot", who appointed an AG that has acted like his personal lawyer and put this presidency above the law, who has a Sec State blocking Congressional subpoenas and traveling the world to get dirt on his political opponents, who has a Chief of Staff that thinks we "should get over it" when it is extorting personal political favors from foreign leaders WITH U.S. Government treasure? And who has the backing of Oligarchs, like the Mercer's, that want to take over These United States? It's NOT Nancy Pelosi. It IS none other than Don Vito tRump.
 
Moderate Right said:
If you want to blame someone for Hillary’s problem then blame Hillary. If you want to blame someone for Biden’s problem then blame Biden..
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What problems are you referring to and how do they relate to the topic of the thread?
 
eohrnberger said:
Another instance where a Democrat's use of federal agencies calls into question sufficient predicate for the government intrusion, overstep, overreach.

First time this became a national issue was when Barr was testifying before congress about the Obama administration's spying on the Trump campaign.

And here is the same thing again. I think the Democrats are a real and present danger, a threat to the liberties and freedoms the US electorate presently enjoy. Such people who have this predilection do not belong in high public office, nor any public office, frankly.
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It isn't overstep or overreach at all. It is following laws that Nunes himself supported. And nothing Barr has said has been proven to be illegal or unethical.

All you have is mindless yammering in an effort to protect what is shown to all of us - a criminal enterprise that involves the president, members of his cabinet, his personal lawyer and at least one congressman.
 
j brown's body said:
It isn't overstep or overreach at all. It is following laws that Nunes himself supported. And nothing Barr has said has been proven to be illegal or unethical.

All you have is mindless yammering in an effort to protect what is shown to all of us - a criminal enterprise that involves the president, members of his cabinet, his personal lawyer and at least one congressman.
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As opposed to your 'mindless yammering' about 'a criminal enterprise that involves the president, members of his cabinet, his personal lawyer and at least one congressman'?

Sounds like the conspiracy theory that you'd politically prefer.
 
Deuce said:
I know what he did. I think you don't understand what metadata is or how it works.
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I'll admit I'm no expert on metadata.

But on the subject of Schiff spying on his political enemies:

From May, 2015.

Listen at the 58 second mark and then at the 1:49 mark.




This is the man you support...……….
 
ocean515 said:
I'll admit I'm no expert on metadata.
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No, no, don't deflect. We're on one topic here. The metadata collection.

Solomon was never targeted. The only reason his name came up at all was that he happened to have called the person who was the target of the subpoena. To the best of my knowledge, Solomon is not a person of interest in this investigation nor is he accused of any crime. He just happened to have called a guy who is. Pizza Hut is probably in the guy's phone records too, but you're not screeching about an assault on pizza, right?
 
Deuce said:
No, no, don't deflect. We're on one topic here. The metadata collection.

Solomon was never targeted. The only reason his name came up at all was that he happened to have called the person who was the target of the subpoena. To the best of my knowledge, Solomon is not a person of interest in this investigation nor is he accused of any crime. He just happened to have called a guy who is. Pizza Hut is probably in the guy's phone records too, but you're not screeching about an assault on pizza, right?
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I'm not deflecting. I point out Schiff gave a speech talking about the danger of using telephone metadata, and then used telephone metadata to spy on his enemies.

I don't know if he has a legal right to pull such data or not.

I assume under the color of his warped authority, he does.

But we don't know anything about this data, do we?

Nothing at all.

Yet, knowledge and fact wasn't Schiff's objective when he included the data in his report, was it?
 
ocean515 said:
I'm not deflecting. I point out Schiff gave a speech talking about the danger of using telephone metadata, and then used telephone metadata to spy on his enemies.

I don't know if he has a legal right to pull such data or not.

I assume under the color of his warped authority, he does.

But we don't know anything about this data, do we?

Nothing at all.

Yet, knowledge and fact wasn't Schiff's objective when he included the data in his report, was it?
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You guys keep using the word "spy" because it was, quite literally, workshopped by the GOP. It sounds more sinister.

This is an investigation.

And, again, I must emphasize, Solomon was never targeted. Collecting his data was entirely incidental. If your mother had called Lev Parnas, her name would come up in the same fashion. This doesn't make her under attack by some grand conspiracy, do you agree? You have yet to acknowledge this facet of how metadata works. I need to know you understand now or there's really no further to go in the conversation.
 
Deuce said:
You guys keep using the word "spy" because it was, quite literally, workshopped by the GOP. It sounds more sinister.

This is an investigation.

And, again, I must emphasize, Solomon was never targeted. Collecting his data was entirely incidental. If your mother had called Lev Parnas, her name would come up in the same fashion. This doesn't make her under attack by some grand conspiracy, do you agree? You have yet to acknowledge this facet of how metadata works. I need to know you understand now or there's really no further to go in the conversation.
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You guys keep running from the fact Schiff spied because you know how bad it looks for you.

What did this metadata Schiff included prove? What facts did it present? What details did this information bring forward to address the purpose behind the impeachment?

Can you answer any of these questions?
 
ocean515 said:
You guys keep running from the fact Schiff spied because you know how bad it looks for you.

What did this metadata Schiff included prove? What facts did it present? What details did this information bring forward to address the purpose behind the impeachment?

Can you answer any of these questions?
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The thread is about an alleged attack on the free press, claiming Solomon is a victim here somehow.

If you concur that Solomon has not actually been under attack here, that his name was merely collected incidentally as part of a phone record and bears no actual relevance to the investigation, then we can move on and I will happily answer your questions.
 
Deuce said:
The thread is about an alleged attack on the free press, claiming Solomon is a victim here somehow.

If you concur that Solomon has not actually been under attack here, that his name was merely collected incidentally as part of a phone record and bears no actual relevance to the investigation, then we can move on and I will happily answer your questions.
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Solomon has been investigating and finding facts that destroy the left's narratives, and point to collusion and illegal activity on the part of the Democratic Party, the FBI, CIA, and others they worked with.

As a result, Solomon has fallen into the cross hairs of the left, and their MSM partners.

It should be alarming to everyone that Schiff apparently used the color of his authority to spy on his political enemies and those who are viewed as a threat.
 
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