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Giuliani just confessed to the crime. He also revealed something bigger.

Rogue Valley said:
Ukraine Prosecutor Says No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Bidens

Joe Biden and son Hunter cleared of wrongdoing by Ukraine prosecutor

What in fact you actually want, is to have Ukrainian prosecutors keep investigating the Bidens until you get the result you want.

This is why Ambassador Yovanovitch had to go. She would never go along with the above scheme.
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No, there's no evidence of wrongdoing by Ukrainian standards. Selling your office to another government in return for financial rewards is SOP there. We need American law enforcement to look into his scheme with his no account son and see what US laws he violated. It's also the height of gall for liberals to make any claims about investigating until you get the result you want. Democrats have been doing that to Trump since election night 2016.
 
veritas1 said:
No, there's no evidence of wrongdoing by Ukrainian standards.
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And how would you know what Ukrainian legal standards are? Did you attend law school in Ukraine?

veritas1 said:
Selling your office to another government in return for financial rewards is SOP there. We need American law enforcement to look into his scheme with his no account son and see what laws he violated. It's also the height of gall for liberals to make any claims about investigating until you get the result you want. Democrats have been doing that to Trump since election night 2016.
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The end result you want is the same end result Trump wants. Biden smeared.

You people just can't beat anyone on merit.

You need voter suppression's, gross gerrymandering, and now the Trump administration reaching overseas for something to smear the Bidens with.

You're cheating whore's, just like your cheating president.
 
Oh no! :shock:

Yet ANOTHER Democrat Nothing Burger!!! :eek:

They'd rather burn down the country than rebuild their party.

Which they also burned down.

Democrats...

:shrug:
 
3leftsdoo said:
Oh no! :shock:

Yet ANOTHER Democrat Nothing Burger!!! :eek:

They'd rather burn down the country than rebuild their party.

Which they also burned down.

Democrats...

:shrug:
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they are the party of self-destruction

among other things
 
Casca XV said:
Do you often post s**t propaganda opinion pieces like they are fact? With all the hard evidence and the Govt of Ukraine saying Trump innocent and Biden guilty, its no wonder the Presidents approval keeps going up.
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excellent question

I guess they kind of avoid.. you know.. those nefarious things called mirrors

when they walk by a building that has a lot of glass and they suspect they may be able to see themselves in said window.. they cross the street..
 
Any information collected from Viktor Shokin, Yuriy Lutsenko, and Konstantin Kulyk is suspect from the getgo.
 
all these posts and still no CRIME mentioned

either that I missed it somehow

I think the title needs to be changed ASAP (maybe OP could face a lawsuit for defamation)
 
Rogue Valley said:
And how would you know what Ukrainian legal standards are? Did you attend law school in Ukraine?



The end result you want is the same end result Trump wants. Biden smeared.

You people just can't beat anyone on merit.

You need voter suppression's, gross gerrymandering, and now the Trump administration reaching overseas for something to smear the Bidens with.

You're cheating whore's, just like your cheating president.
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Biden smeared himself with his big mouth bragging about Ukraine and withholding funds until the prosecutor was fired. That is an ACTUAL quid pro quo unlike the imaginary one you claim for Trump.

I doubt Biden will even be the nominee but I hope he is because Trump will stomp him into a paste. No suppression is needed. No gerrymandering is needed. All that's needed is Trump's successful first term and senile Joe exposing himself nightly on the campaign trail. Maybe he can call some more voters liars, old and fat. That should be fun.

You guys can't win on merit. That's ALL this impeachment farce is about. You KNOW you can't win and so are trying to damage Trump anyway you can. He is succeeding and it drives you into apoplectic fits of rage. Watching the Dems become unhinged daily as they realize they are going to lose is almost worth all the time they waste and having to listen to their chorus of venom and lies. Next November is going to be great fun. Maybe you can record your primal scream from election night and play it in here for us.:lol:
 
veritas1 said:
No, there's no evidence of wrongdoing by Ukrainian standards. Selling your office to another government in return for financial rewards is SOP there. We need American law enforcement to look into his scheme with his no account son and see what US laws he violated. It's also the height of gall for liberals to make any claims about investigating until you get the result you want. Democrats have been doing that to Trump since election night 2016.
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Yes the Ukrainians would never start a private for profit college and f@ck over all the students or use their charity to buy paintings for their golf courses or take Russian mob money to build hotels and other high rises.

You are sooooo right!!!!
 
US&THEM said:
Yes the Ukrainians would never start a private for profit college and f@ck over all the students or use their charity to buy paintings for their golf courses or take Russian mob money to build hotels and other high rises.

You are sooooo right!!!!
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Was Trump POTUS when any of this supposedly occurred? No? Yea, didn't think so. Biden WAS Vice Preisdent when he pulled his Ukrainian scheme.
 
veritas1 said:
Was Trump POTUS when any of this supposedly occurred? No? Yea, didn't think so. Biden WAS Vice Preisdent when he pulled his Ukrainian scheme.
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Biden was speaking on behalf of the western world. It is amazing how you forget Hunter Biden joined the board in 2014, the Burisma investigation started in 2013. The prosecutor was not doing anything and that is why he was moved out.

It is,easy to defend Trump because he wasn’t President as he was grifting his way around?
 
US&THEM said:
Biden was speaking on behalf of the western world. It is amazing how you forget Hunter Biden joined the board in 2014, the Burisma investigation started in 2013. The prosecutor was not doing anything and that is why he was moved out.

It is,easy to defend Trump because he wasn’t President as he was grifting his way around?
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Easier than defending Biden and the Clintons who have parlayed their government jobs into millions while they were in office.
 
Lutherf said:
I guess I'm missing the significance. If there is evidence that Biden was involved with corrupt acts in Ukraine then that should be investigated. I mean, presumed corrupt acts by Trump are being investigated and might impact the 2020 election, right?
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Sounds like you're part of the Russian disinformation campaign. That's their message ^^^
 
veritas1 said:
Easier than defending Biden and the Clintons who have parlayed their government jobs into millions while they were in office.
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So Trump should get a pass? Jesus, that's quite the cult, where dear leader can do anything he wants.

EDIT: LOL, on second thought, that's kind of the definition of a cult, isn't it?
 
veritas1 said:
Biden smeared himself with his big mouth bragging about Ukraine and withholding funds until the prosecutor was fired. That is an ACTUAL quid pro quo unlike the imaginary one you claim for Trump.

I doubt Biden will even be the nominee but I hope he is because Trump will stomp him into a paste. No suppression is needed. No gerrymandering is needed. All that's needed is Trump's successful first term and senile Joe exposing himself nightly on the campaign trail. Maybe he can call some more voters liars, old and fat. That should be fun.

You guys can't win on merit. That's ALL this impeachment farce is about. You KNOW you can't win and so are trying to damage Trump anyway you can. He is succeeding and it drives you into apoplectic fits of rage. Watching the Dems become unhinged daily as they realize they are going to lose is almost worth all the time they waste and having to listen to their chorus of venom and lies. Next November is going to be great fun. Maybe you can record your primal scream from election night and play it in here for us.:lol:
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thanks for all the laughter :lamo

even though every word is truth IMO

I like that stomp him into paste thing.. something I also have been thinking for LONG time. I don't think Biden will be the one, but it would be so great if he were... as in: entertaining as hell
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Viktor Shokin was a corrupt prosecutor and everyone wanted him gone.
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he was corrupt because he was investigating Biden's son.. can't get any more corrupt than that.
 
JustHanging said:
So Trump should get a pass? Jesus, that's quite the cult, where dear leader can do anything he wants.

EDIT: LOL, on second thought, that's kind of the definition of a cult, isn't it?
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When you've identified any crime Trump has committed, let us know. So far, you've looked under rocks for three years and have nothing.
 
digitusmedius said:
They just wanted dirt on Biden.
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They didn't even want dirt on Biden. An investigation by Ukraine wasn't likely to find dirt that didn't exist. They just wanted him to ANNOUNCE an investigation, so they could use that to smear Biden.
 
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