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    Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Here's what we know thus far.

    1. Nowhere in any document or call script was there an offer to withhold money from Ukraine if they didn't do (X)

    2. No money was ever withheld waiting for an investigation

    3. Still to date no investigation has been announced

    4. EVERY witness who testified for Democrats stated under Republican questioning that they have no knowledge of any bribery or quid pro quo

    5. EVERY witness who testified for Democrats stated they were only testifying to their presumptions of what might have happened

    6. Only Democrats are pushing for Impeachment without a single vote from any Republican which means this is a partisan scam.

    So the question is, if they hold a vote, and only Democrats vote for it, they don't even realize whats going to happen in the Senate?

    They have no clue that every witness Schiff has refused to allow to testify will take the stand? They don't think the Whistle Blower will be called (even in a closed setting) to expose the relationship with Schiff and Biden?

    They can't be so stupid. Can they? After what they have put this country through on an exclusively partisan quest, putting this in the hands of a Republican Senate will be a blood fest.

    If they don't have a single Republican now, do they actually think they will get enough in the Senate to unseat a president? Of course they don't.

    Thats the idiocy of this entire ordeal.

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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Condor060 View Post
    Here's what we know thus far.

    1. Nowhere in any document or call script was there an offer to withhold money from Ukraine if they didn't do (X)

    2. No money was ever withheld waiting for an investigation

    3. Still to date no investigation has been announced

    4. EVERY witness who testified for Democrats stated under Republican questioning that they have no knowledge of any bribery or quid pro quo

    5. EVERY witness who testified for Democrats stated they were only testifying to their presumptions of what might have happened

    6. Only Democrats are pushing for Impeachment without a single vote from any Republican which means this is a partisan scam.

    So the question is, if they hold a vote, and only Democrats vote for it, they don't even realize whats going to happen in the Senate?

    They have no clue that every witness Schiff has refused to allow to testify will take the stand? They don't think the Whistle Blower will be called (even in a closed setting) to expose the relationship with Schiff and Biden?

    They can't be so stupid. Can they? After what they have put this country through on an exclusively partisan quest, putting this in the hands of a Republican Senate will be a blood fest.

    If they don't have a single Republican now, do they actually think they will get enough in the Senate to unseat a president? Of course they don't.

    Thats the idiocy of this entire ordeal.
    I think they're desperate enough. They at the point where they're prepared to employee a kamikazi type strategy: They believe they can't win, so maybe they can make Trump quit.
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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    We'll see. The testimony thus far has been very consistent. Trump drove the bus. He used Giuliani to take back-channel methods of getting to Ukraine and press Trump's demands. Funds were withheld. Trump has been obstructing the investigation.

    The idiocy of the whole thing is how obviously partisan the GOP-Partisans have come in order to defend their brand over the Republic.
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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Their strategy is simple: if the dems actually impeach, Trump will be compelled to testify - he can't wiggle out of it.

    Eventually, Trump will lie about something or other, and they can nab him on a Perjury charge - just like the republicans did with Bill Clinton.

    This shows how truly desperate they are.

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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    For people who are only interested in doing things for self-interest, anyone acting in service of something other than self-interest is incomprehensible.
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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyChief View Post
    Their strategy is simple: if the dems actually impeach, Trump will be compelled to testify - he can't wiggle out of it.

    Eventually, Trump will lie about something or other, and they can nab him on a Perjury charge - just like the republicans did with Bill Clinton.

    This shows how truly desperate they are.
    Were the Republicans, then, desperate to impeach Clinton because they had to set up a perjury trap?

    Nixon's impeachment articles included obstruction charges because he refused to comply with Congressional subpoena, and Trump has done far more of that then Nixon ever did.
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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Censure of the President would of been a better option and probably of gotten more bipartisan support. If the House does impeach the senate could easily prolong their process into primary season. This would put Warren and Sanders at a real disadvantage. While they’re sitting in the Senate hearing testimony Biden will be the sole front runner on the campaign trail. The conspiracy theorist in me says that was the Democratic establishment plan the whole time to tilt the primaries in Biden’s favor.

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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    For people who are only interested in doing things for self-interest, anyone acting in service of something other than self-interest is incomprehensible.
    Yeah, not a single Democrat has any interest in advancing themselves.
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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Condor060 View Post
    Here's what we know thus far.

    1. Nowhere in any document or call script was there an offer to withhold money from Ukraine if they didn't do (X)

    2. No money was ever withheld waiting for an investigation

    3. Still to date no investigation has been announced

    4. EVERY witness who testified for Democrats stated under Republican questioning that they have no knowledge of any bribery or quid pro quo

    5. EVERY witness who testified for Democrats stated they were only testifying to their presumptions of what might have happened

    6. Only Democrats are pushing for Impeachment without a single vote from any Republican which means this is a partisan scam.

    So the question is, if they hold a vote, and only Democrats vote for it, they don't even realize whats going to happen in the Senate?

    They have no clue that every witness Schiff has refused to allow to testify will take the stand? They don't think the Whistle Blower will be called (even in a closed setting) to expose the relationship with Schiff and Biden?

    They can't be so stupid. Can they? After what they have put this country through on an exclusively partisan quest, putting this in the hands of a Republican Senate will be a blood fest.

    If they don't have a single Republican now, do they actually think they will get enough in the Senate to unseat a president? Of course they don't.

    Thats the idiocy of this entire ordeal.
    Well that certainly sounds like the right wing propaganda but it is certainly far from the truth.

    Trump is guilty as sin but that doesn't really matter because senate republicans are terrified of trumps base. They will make up all kinds of reasons to turn him loose

    America will get to hold him accountable next November

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    Re: Are Democrats Dumb Enough to Actually Vote For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We'll see. The testimony thus far has been very consistent.
    It has been overwhelmingly consistent. EVERY single witness has testified they have no knowledge of any bribery or quid pro quo. I don't understand why that is so hard to follow.

    The idiocy of the whole thing is how obviously partisan the GOP-Partisans have come in order to defend their brand over the Republic.
    In case you haven't been watching, The GOP isn't bringing impeachment, the Democrats are. Since the Democrats can't convince one Republican of these phony allegations, Republicans are being partisan?

    Talk about irony.

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