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    How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    New York: Brooklyn Man Arrested - Encouraged ISIS Supporters to Attack NYC Subway System

    Zachary Clark aka Umar Kabir aka Umar Shishani aka Abu Talha “provided instructions for how to plan attacks on U.S. soil, encouraging ISIS supporters to attack in well-populated locations.”

    Who introduced Clark to Islam? What mosque did he go to? Who was his imam?

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    Zachary Clark Allegedly Disseminated ISIS Propaganda and Bomb-Making Instructions in an Effort to Incite Acts of Terrorism and Violence In New York City and Elsewhere

    The Department of Justice today announced that Zachary Clark, 40, of Brooklyn, New York, was arrested today in Brooklyn. Clark is charged in a criminal Complaint with attempting to provide material support to the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), a designated foreign terrorist organization, and distributing bomb-making instructions. Clark is expected to be presented later today before Magistrate Judge Robert W. Lehrburger in Manhattan federal court.

    “The defendant allegedly provided instructions for how to plan attacks on U.S. soil, encouraging ISIS supporters to attack in well-populated locations,” said Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers. “The National Security Division is committed to identifying and holding accountable those who support foreign terrorist organizations and pose a threat to our communities.”

    “As alleged, Zachary Clark twice pledged allegiance to ISIS, and posted on encrypted pro-ISIS chatrooms numerous exhortations and instructions on bomb-making and other terrorist acts to be carried out in New York. Thanks to the Joint Terrorist Task Force, Clark now faces serious criminal charges for his alleged support of a terrorist organization bent on killing Americans,” said U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman for the Southern District of New York.

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    12:30PM | URL: Creeping Sharia - New York: Brooklyn Man Arrested - Encouraged ISIS Supporters to Attack NYC Subway System
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    By helping them bring harm to America and Americans?
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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    It hasn't been perfect, I can think of a few Muslim terrorists.

    There was that man and wife who shot up his place of work. (not sure if that was workplace violence or religion related)
    There were those two brothers who set off pressure cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon.
    There was that guy who killed all those gays in Orlando. (not sure if it was religion related)
    There was that guy who ran over tourists in New York with a truck.
    There was that Somali who attacked shoppers at the mall.
    There was that army doctor who shot his patients

    But non Muslim terrorists kill a lot more people than Muslims do these days.

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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    Quote Originally Posted by babalu View Post
    How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?



    Creeping Sharia


    By helping them bring harm to America and Americans?
    Maybe we can all gather on their front lawn dressed in white robes and burn a giant crescent as a sort of welcome to the neighborhood.


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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    There is no friggen Sharia law in this country. The major terrorist and terrorist threats in this coutnry are actually white, right wing christians, not muslims.

    The article is the standard racist idiocy from conservatives, spreading hate, lies and fear, because that's all they have.

    Also, it is the Christian right trying to enforce teh Christian version of Sharia, trying to force americnas to live by their BS religions "morals". and I put morals in quotes because so many of these people are the most immoral people. Just look at that obscene Ohio law just signed.

    So spare us American Taliban, you guys are the real threats

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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    Quote Originally Posted by babalu View Post
    How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?



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    By helping them bring harm to America and Americans?
    That looks like White Supremacist propaganda, do you frequent those sites?

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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    1. Many sincere Americans say that the majority of people who come here will adapt to American culture and become good Americans, especially their American-born children.

    2. They say that the United States of America has nothing to fear from immigrants from non-Christian and non-European nations.

    3. Of course, I do not know whether such a point of view is overly optimistic or not.

    4. But I DO know that immigrants will continue to come here in ever-growing numbers and that it is a worldwide and irrepressible trend.

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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    Quote Originally Posted by babalu View Post
    How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?



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    By helping them bring harm to America and Americans?
    I don't see any correlation to your article which intentionally chooses to demonize a sexual child abuser because he 'just happens' to look like he might be of the Islam religion? Don't you find that just a bit xenophobic and racially discriminatory? The site you linked is 'Creeping Sharia' and claims to be "Documenting news on the threat of Islamic sharia law and jihad to freedoms in the U.S., and beyond."

    So where in this article does it state that this man is an Arab or a Muslim, a follower of Islam or a believer in Sharia law? Are we to judge this man by his appearance and his name? Incidentally, his surname is of India origin which suggest he 'might' be Islamic. So what? This is precisely the type of hateful website that creates unfounded fear, anger and hatred of all Muslims. It's disgusting. How many Catholic priests have been found to be pedophiles preying on young children and where are they now? They're living in grand surroundings in tucked away 'retreats' paid for by the Church where they're safe from prying eyes or condemnations by people.

    America has always had numerous religious groups who follow their own sacred laws and lifestyles (Catholics, Jews, Baptists, Amish, Buddhists, Quakers, religious communes, etc.). Islam is the third largest religion in the whole world, yet Islamist's represent only 1% of the population in the US and according to the Pew Research Center, up to 25% of Muslims in the United States are converts. There's nearly three and a half million people in the United States that follow Islam. Compare that to the 65% majority which follows Christianity.

    Your thread also makes the mistake of equating Islam to those who follow Sharia law, which not all followers of Islam do. American Muslims practice Sharia on a voluntary, private basis in a manner similar to Catholics who obey the magisterium or Jews who follow halakhah. The essential parts of Sharia are practices such as daily prayers, fasting during the month of Ramadan, marriage contracts, and rules for charity and investments. Muslims follow these practices without infringing on anyone else’s rights.

    American Muslims enjoy the same benefits as other Americans, such as freedom of religion, economic opportunity, access to public schools and universities, America’s natural beauty, respect for diversity, etc., which is an additional reason for them to be loyal Americans. Accommodation for Muslim practices is no different from accommodations for other religious practices. American law treats Sharia just like any other religion’s sacred law, values, and lifestyle. And that should be the end of this discussion.

    We would all do well to recall the massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand last year where 51 people were murdered and 49 injured inside a Mosque praying. This is what results from hate-mongering websites such as the one you have linked.
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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    By bigots like you learning something.

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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    Want to satisfy Muslims in the US? Force everyone to bump their heads on the ground while facing Mecca 5 times a day. And women need to quit flaunting their sexuality.

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    Re: How can America become more accommodating to the followers of Islam who live here?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    1. Many sincere Americans say that the majority of people who come here will adapt to American culture and become good Americans, especially their American-born children.

    2. They say that the United States of America has nothing to fear from immigrants from non-Christian and non-European nations.

    3. Of course, I do not know whether such a point of view is overly optimistic or not.

    4. But I DO know that immigrants will continue to come here in ever-growing numbers and that it is a worldwide and irrepressible trend.

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