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William Barr says ‘communities’ that protest cops could lose ‘the police protection they need’

CLAX1911 said:
No. I don't think the room full of fun forsmann officers were the target for that comment even though he was in the room talking to them I think people like you were.

Yes people have the right to throw fits. But fit throwing isn't the same thing as protesting people don't know how to do that anymore.
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WTF are “fun forsmann officers”?

Agreed. This is America. We, the People have rights including the right to “throw fits” or protest our own government without reprisals. I know in the Soviet Union, the People’s Republic of China and Nazi Germany that was not so, but I hope you agree we have that unequivocal right here in the United States of America.
 
Rising Sun said:
WTF are “fun forsmann officers”?

Agreed. This is America. We, the People have rights including the right to “throw fits” or protest our own government without reprisals.
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and police officials have the right to say things that provoke you

I know in the Soviet Union, the People’s Republic of China and Nazi Germany that was not so, but I hope you agree we have that unequivocal right here in the United States of America.
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oh don't get me wrong I'm all for it I want these people out throwing fits burning down buildings and setting cars on fire. Making moronic chants about how they want to kill the police.

It shows who they really are which is not reasonable people that have a reasonable complaint, but criminals that what the police out of their areas so they can commit crimes.

Please by all means get out the street and throw you a little temper tantrums that's great. The more people do that the fewer people agree with this insanity.
 
CLAX1911 said:
and police officials have the right to say things that provoke you


oh don't get me wrong I'm all for it I want these people out throwing fits burning down buildings and setting cars on fire. Making moronic chants about how they want to kill the police.

It shows who they really are which is not reasonable people that have a reasonable complaint, but criminals that what the police out of their areas so they can commit crimes.

Please by all means get out the street and throw you a little temper tantrums that's great. The more people do that the fewer people agree with this insanity.
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Only in the Neo-Nazi world. In the American world, the police serve “We, the People”. What happens in Russia under Putin is their problem.

Do you agree Putin is a tin-plated, murdering dictator who should end the same way Mussolini did?
 
Rising Sun said:
Only in the Neo-Nazi world. In the American world, the police serve “We, the People”. What happens in Russia under Putin is their problem.

Do you agree Putin is a tin-plated, murdering dictator who should end the same way Mussolini did?
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Lol neo Nazis and Putin:lamo

It's amazing how easy it is to get into people's heads.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Lol neo Nazis and Putin:lamo

It's amazing how easy it is to get into people's heads.
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Isn’t it? Especially when they support such things then refuse to deny their participation.

Dasvidaniya, tovarish. Let me know when a Russian patriot decides to stand up for his or her country and remove Putin from power.
 
Rising Sun said:
Isn’t it? Especially when they support such things then refuse to deny their participation.
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Yes. Not saying something offers someone full access.

Tell me more about the neo-nazis, don't forget Putin and maybe we can talk about the reptilians and the Illuminati.
Dasvidaniya, tovarish. Let me know when a Russian patriot decides to stand up for his or her country and remove Putin from power.
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What?
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yes. Not saying something offers someone full access.

Tell me more about the neo-nazis, don't forget Putin and maybe we can talk about the reptilians and the Illuminati.


What?
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LOL. Figures you’d deny the Russian involvement of our elections too.
 
Rising Sun said:
Disagreed as his own statements prove.
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Then what's your basis for this? It's not like he's giving a direct statement of what they are going to do, nor is there any qualifier for why what might happen, might be attuned to race.

So how are you coming to your conclusion?
 
Oborosen said:
Don't fight with the police when they ask you to comply. Plain and simple.
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The cop was fired for his actions.

In 2019, the U.S. Department of Justice declined to bring criminal charges against Pantaleo under federal civil rights laws. A New York Police Department disciplinary hearing regarding Pantaleo's treatment of Garner was held in the summer of 2019; on August 2, 2019, an administrative judge recommended that Pantaleo's employment be terminated. Pantaleo was fired on August 19, 2019, five years after Garner's death.
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Oborosen said:
Don't fight with the police when they ask you to comply. Plain and simple.
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But if they try to take your guns away, shoot them. The constitution is split into two parts: the correct part according to you, and the incorrect part according to you.
 
Lisa said:
The cop was fired for his actions.
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Yes, but saying that it was because of racism would be wrong.

He used a hold that was banned. Which lead to him being fired, or at least added more weight to he decision.
 
Mustachio said:
But if they try to take your guns away, shoot them. The constitution is split into two parts: the correct part according to you, and the incorrect part according to you.
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No, it's rather clear on what can and cannot be done. With enough room for our legal body to make the necessary variations.

He argued, and fought back. Which ended up attributing to his death.

You can have your own opinions about me all you like. But that doesn't make them into an actual fact.
 
babalu said:
I say you should examine the wealth of research and stats which dispel popular but incorrect belief such as those you display in your post.

The Anti-Police Culture


By*JACK DUNPHY

August 1, 2016 5:00 AM

The War on Cops: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe, by Heather Mac Donald (Encounter, 248 pp., $23.99)



Heather MacDonald's "The War on Cops" | National Review
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while I agree with the article and it’s conclusions, it’s a police PR problem that won’t be solved by threatening to remove protection from innocent people in a community.
 
Oborosen said:
Then what's your basis for this? It's not like he's giving a direct statement of what they are going to do, nor is there any qualifier for why what might happen, might be attuned to race.

So how are you coming to your conclusion?
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You said it yourself:

Oborosen said:
What blatant racism?

Cops do not usually feel emphasized to patrol areas in which they will get mistreated, or outright attacked.
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Doesn’t it make sense that those areas of America need more police protection and patrolling, not less?
 
Rising Sun said:
You said it yourself:

Doesn’t it make sense that those areas of America need more police protection and patrolling, not less?
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They may need it, but it's not like their actions in fighting against it are doing them any favors at this point.

Now that I think about it, I never got an answer for that first question either.
 
Oborosen said:
They may need it, but it's not like their actions in fighting against it are doing them any favors at this point.

Now that I think about it, I never got an answer for that first question either.
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I disagree with your idea to leave areas of the US lawless.
 
Rising Sun said:
I disagree with your idea to leave areas of the US lawless.
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It's not my idea, or wish of intent, nor do I believe is it Barr's. That is just a statement of fact.
If you have a community that actively fights against it's own police force. Then they run the risk of not having that police force be so available to them.

It's the same as with the no go zones in England, or Norway. The police get attacked when they enter, so they don't come around nearly as much as they used to, or not at all.
 
Oborosen said:
It's not my idea, or wish of intent, nor do I believe is it Barr's. That is just a statement of fact.
If you have a community that actively fights against it's own police force. Then they run the risk of not having that police force be so available to them.

It's the same as with the no go zones in England, or Norway. The police get attacked when they enter, so they don't come around nearly as much as they used to, or not at all.
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You are supporting it therefore you should man up and own it. Suddenly backpedaling and quickly saying “It’s not my idea” is lame.

I don’t give a damn about England or Norway. This is the United States of America. If you like those countries, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of my country.
 
Rising Sun said:
You are supporting it therefore you should man up and own it. Suddenly backpedaling and quickly saying “It’s not my idea” is lame.

I don’t give a damn about England or Norway. This is the United States of America. If you like those countries, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of my country.
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You do realize that I'm just stating a fact of what happens when any community acts like that. I've never made the statement that they should just be treated as such and you attempting to say that I am, isn't going to help here.

I was just pointing out the same thing happens in other countries, and not just here. When the police get attacked by the communities that they are supposed to protect, then they usually stop showing up to patrol those areas.

If you don't like it, then go out and tell them to not firebomb police cars, or to not run up and shoot officers when they're parked at red lights.
 
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