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Greta burns some major carbon, opps.

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Good lord are these attempts to attack people who do not arrogantly deny AGW from their armchairs ever stupid and dishonest. A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.



If you have to address groups in various parts of the world, you're going to generally have to travel there. Nobody is a hypocrite and nothing about AGW is undermined if such a person has to use carbon to travel because duh.

This thread is just as idiotic as when some liar claims that someone who thinks we should pay higher tax rates so we aren't borrowing a trillion a year is a hypocrite if they don't try to voluntarily pay a higher rate then they have to.

It bears repeating: A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.
 
Greta Thunberg's plan to save carbon emissions backfires over travel on luxury yacht - TheBlaze

She might have burned more carbon than the typical teenage girl does in a year.

The ever present irony and hypocrisy of the alarmist is truly epic.

Granted this is not as bad as all the private jet/mega-Yacht climate preachers. But still it shows the goofy ness of it.

ROFLMAO. The major upset of the far right by a 16 year old Swedish school girl in pigtails is just another example of who lame they are as a group.

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Good lord are these attempts to attack people who do not arrogantly deny AGW from their armchairs ever stupid and dishonest. A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.



If you have to address groups in various parts of the world, you're going to generally have to travel there. Nobody is a hypocrite and nothing about AGW is undermined if such a person has to use carbon to travel because duh.

This thread is just as idiotic as when some liar claims that someone who thinks we should pay higher tax rates so we aren't borrowing a trillion a year is a hypocrite if they don't try to voluntarily pay a higher rate then they have to.

It bears repeating: A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.

Bernie Sanders and Greta Thunberg are hypocrites for not walking and/or swimming everywhere like Jesus would have. Jesus would have advocated for clean energy AND walked from town to town preaching the gospel. That's how it's done.
 
Bernie Sanders and Greta Thunberg are hypocrites for not walking and/or swimming everywhere like Jesus would have. Jesus would have advocated for clean energy AND walked from town to town preaching the gospel. That's how it's done.

Bernie, yes. A 16 year old Swedish school girl? Not so much.
 
Good lord are these attempts to attack people who do not arrogantly deny AGW from their armchairs ever stupid and dishonest. A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.



If you have to address groups in various parts of the world, you're going to generally have to travel there. Nobody is a hypocrite and nothing about AGW is undermined if such a person has to use carbon to travel because duh.

This thread is just as idiotic as when some liar claims that someone who thinks we should pay higher tax rates so we aren't borrowing a trillion a year is a hypocrite if they don't try to voluntarily pay a higher rate then they have to.

It bears repeating: A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.

A prefer a more gentle tone, but I try to comply to posters such as yourself that offer a more blunt dialogue.

Good grief are these liberal replies stupid and dishonest.

Yes there is this new technology called telephone you don’t seem familiar. And even new fancy tv phones that show your faces if one is so vein to need their face seen. You might want to look into that. And yes one doesn’t have to wait for a “policy” to live out their ideals themselves and be an example, what pathetic bankrupt shilling for these rank hypocrites.

And no, I didn’t deny global warming, just more dishonesty (it’s piling up now).
 
Another idiotic "person who fights for good policies flew on a plane" article, I presume.

People who fight for policies to destroy the environment, by attacking people who push for better policies with logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks.
 
Greta Thunberg's plan to save carbon emissions backfires over travel on luxury yacht - TheBlaze

She might have burned more carbon than the typical teenage girl does in a year.

The ever present irony and hypocrisy of the alarmist is truly epic.

Granted this is not as bad as all the private jet/mega-Yacht climate preachers. But still it shows the goofy ness of it.

This is why it's straight-up child abuse for the leftists to use Greta and have her do their bidding. Any adult with a functioning brain would know that if she just got on a damn commercial flight, it would be less carbon than transporting her via boat or whatever vessel, when there's a crew which needs to get back and forth.
 
Were there no sailboats available?

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A better question is, does she not have skype? Or some equivalent app to conference call?

But then it’s not as fun to get to travel and show off and feel good about yourself st the same time.
 
Bernie Sanders and Greta Thunberg are hypocrites for not walking and/or swimming everywhere like Jesus would have. Jesus would have advocated for clean energy AND walked from town to town preaching the gospel. That's how it's done.

I think it was Ghandi who said, “Be the change you want to see in the world.” I won’t be taking any lectures in plane travel from a child who sailed here and back in a multi-million dollar yacht leant to her by the Prince of Monaco and flew in professional yacht racers to do it.
 
If she produces extra X amount of emissions to save Billion TIMES X, it's clearly worthwhile.

Only dummies would not understand that.
 
A better question is, does she not have skype? Or some equivalent app to a conference call?

But then it’s not as fun to get to travel and show off and feel good about yourself st the same time.

If she would have flown back to Europe you would have criticized, so instead, she took a sailboat. You would have criticized her if it was wood because trees would have been cut down to create it. Almost all boats over 25' and any boat that is going to cross the ocean has a diesel engine for both backup power and electrical generation when the PV cells aren't sufficient.
 
A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.
Not always, but they are in this case.

If a "climate crusader" can't be bothered to mitigate their carbon consumption (or better still, not consume vastly more than the rest of us), why should I believe his concern is genuine or his demands are even reasonable?
 
This is why it's straight-up child abuse for the leftists to use Greta and have her do their bidding. Any adult with a functioning brain would know that if she just got on a damn commercial flight, it would be less carbon than transporting her via boat or whatever vessel, when there's a crew which needs to get back and forth.

Well I think the boat thing was for show, but come in. They should have factored in the opposition was going to run some numbers on this stunt and show it was just a gimmick.
 
If she would have flown back to Europe you would have criticized, so instead, she took a sailboat. You would have criticized her if it was wood because trees would have been cut down to create it. Almost all boats over 25' and any boat that is going to cross the ocean has a diesel engine for both backup power and electrical generation when the PV cells aren't sufficient.

No, just staying home and Skyping would have shown at least some common sense attempt to cut footprint. I don’t think that is nitpicking.
 
Well I think the boat thing was for show, but come in. They should have factored in the opposition was going to run some numbers on this stunt and show it was just a gimmick.

Of course. When you're older and more mature, you get on a commercial flight and say "deal with it". Instead, she's pulling these stupid stunts.
 
If she produces extra X amount of emissions to save Billion TIMES X, it's clearly worthwhile.

Only dummies would not understand that.

You are a tad optimistic in her power of persuasion.
 
Of course. When you're older and more mature, you get on a commercial flight and say "deal with it". Instead, she's pulling these stupid stunts.
Maybe, but it's likely some grownups were all in on this gimmick instead of giving good council.
 
I think it was Ghandi who said, “Be the change you want to see in the world.” I won’t be taking any lectures in plane travel from a child who sailed here and back in a multi-million dollar yacht leant to her by the Prince of Monaco and flew in professional yacht racers to do it.

I really wonder how anyone, like you, can believe they've come up with a killer gotcha when they say that stupid bull****.

What's the thought process?

"I know, if I say I won't accept AGW if any person that says I should accept it has to travel around the world to speak to various groups, they'll have to stop traveling around the world! And then, because they won't be traveling the world, they won't spread their message, so I'll still win! Mmmwwwwuuuhahahahaha!"




Some of the dumbest **** on Earth. Don't stain your mouth or our minds with such dishonest idiocy. A person advocating for a policy that affects everyone need not pretend as if that policy is in existence while they are its proponent, especially not if the policy has to do with emissions and you actually have to travel the world to say the things that you think will make it more likely for the message to get through.


Stupid

stupid

stupid

bitter dishonesty.
 
I really wonder how anyone, like you, can believe they've come up with a killer gotcha when they say that stupid bull****.

What's the thought process?

"I know, if I say I won't accept AGW if any person that says I should accept it has to travel around the world to speak to various groups, they'll have to stop traveling around the world! And then, because they won't be traveling the world, they won't spread their message, so I'll still win! Mmmwwwwuuuhahahahaha!"




Some of the dumbest **** on Earth. Don't stain your mouth or our minds with such dishonest idiocy. A person advocating for a policy that affects everyone need not pretend as if that policy is in existence while they are its proponent, especially not if the policy has to do with emissions and you actually have to travel the world to say the things that you think will make it more likely for the message to get through.


Stupid

stupid

stupid

bitter dishonesty.

That’s a nice straw man you set up there. I didn’t say anything about believing in AGW. But who needs a child spewing carbon everywhere to scream at others for their carbon footprint and be another useless mouth restating the problem?
 
Good lord are these attempts to attack people who do not arrogantly deny AGW from their armchairs ever stupid and dishonest. A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.

If you have to address groups in various parts of the world, you're going to generally have to travel there. Nobody is a hypocrite and nothing about AGW is undermined if such a person has to use carbon to travel because duh.

This thread is just as idiotic as when some liar claims that someone who thinks we should pay higher tax rates so we aren't borrowing a trillion a year is a hypocrite if they don't try to voluntarily pay a higher rate then they have to.

It bears repeating: A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.




Did I make a booboo? Well, I don't tolerate foolishness well. Since you bring up hypocrisy, let's examine this:

The ever present irony and hypocrisy of the alarmist is truly epic.

Doesn't sound "gentle" to me, does it? Sounds more like douchebaggery, doesn't it?

:thinking




Good grief are these liberal replies stupid and dishonest. Yes there is this new technology called telephone you don’t seem familiar. And even new fancy tv phones that show your faces if one is so vein to need their face seen. You might want to look into that. And yes one doesn’t have to wait for a “policy” to live out their ideals themselves and be an example, what pathetic bankrupt shilling for these rank hypocrites. A

Your attempt to invent some special standard for people who unlike you do not deny AGW, which if honored would hamstring them in their attempts to spread their message simply doesn't work for anyone but those in your choir. And I'm afraid people just are not as stupid as you need them to be to accept that swill.

If a person needs to travel the world to address groups in person, that person will do what is needed. I'm sure you'd love it if Greta just sat at home and said nothing....or made podcasts nobody would listen to.... but apparently she's already outwitted you. The only people who are going to agree with your bull**** are AGW deniers.




And no, I didn’t deny global warming

Oh, of course not. Perish thought, sir, perish it indeed!

You "didn't deny" it, you just borrowed a hamfisted fake standard that if honored would result in nobody who accepts AGW traveling to speak to anybody else about it. Everyone else, for any other reason, will be allowed to travel under your genius plan. It's only the people who want to educate others about AGW who cannot travel under your plan. And you don't deny global warming because, what, you didn't say the exact words "I deny global warming"?

:lamo

Unfortunately for you, people are not as stupid as you need them to be for your dishonest swill to work.
 
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That’s a nice straw man you set up there. I didn’t say anything about believing in AGW. But who needs a child spewing carbon everywhere to scream at others for their carbon footprint and be another useless mouth restating the problem?

Ah, you see, the bolded was already addressed:

I really wonder how anyone, like you, can believe they've come up with a killer gotcha when they say that stupid bull****.

What's the thought process?

"I know, if I say I won't accept AGW if any person that says I should accept it has to travel around the world to speak to various groups, they'll have to stop traveling around the world! And then, because they won't be traveling the world, they won't spread their message, so I'll still win! Mmmwwwwuuuhahahahaha!"

Some of the dumbest **** on Earth. Don't stain your mouth or our minds with such dishonest idiocy. A person advocating for a policy that affects everyone need not pretend as if that policy is in existence while they are its proponent, especially not if the policy has to do with emissions and you actually have to travel the world to say the things that you think will make it more likely for the message to get through.


Stupid

stupid

stupid

bitter dishonesty.

The only people who insist that someone who doesn't deny AGW not burn carbon when traveling the world intends that their message not be spread. If Greta honored the fake rule you invented for purpose of limiting her travel, she wouldn't travel. But the UN doesn't assemble to listen to a podcast. She has to actually go there to address them.

So yes, you are a denier. Don't bother continuing your dishonest "I didn't say 'quid pro quo' so there cannot have been a quid pro quo" defense. Nobody else will pretend that someone who wants to spread a message about AGW is not allowed to travel the world because carbon.

:lamo
 
Good lord are these attempts to attack people who do not arrogantly deny AGW from their armchairs ever stupid and dishonest. A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.



If you have to address groups in various parts of the world, you're going to generally have to travel there. Nobody is a hypocrite and nothing about AGW is undermined if such a person has to use carbon to travel because duh.

This thread is just as idiotic as when some liar claims that someone who thinks we should pay higher tax rates so we aren't borrowing a trillion a year is a hypocrite if they don't try to voluntarily pay a higher rate then they have to.

It bears repeating: A person pushing for policies that would effect themselves along with everyone else isn't a hypocrite for not acting as if all the policies they push for already exist.


These people are pathetic and desperate, they just throw out dumb defections because they got not fact, no intelligence, nothign to support their position. And they just regurgitate their marching orders.

People who want to reduce emissions do not have to live in the woods free of any energy to be for reducing emissions. But sadly, people like the OP have absolutely no argument so spouting idiotic deflections is all they have

Another idiotic "person who fights for good policies flew on a plane" article, I presume.

People who fight for policies to destroy the environment, by attacking people who push for better policies with logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks.

logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks is pretty much all right wingers have
 
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