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That Uplifting Tweet You Just Shared? A Russian Troll Sent It

Cramer said:
Do you think the Russian propaganda machine is real? Do you think it is, or has been effective in dividing Americans.....and/or other western democracies?
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now it was Ukraine doing it because Putin likes that talking point and look out, because Hunter Biden!

also buttery mails.
 
Cramer said:
Russia's main goal was not limited to getting Trump elected. Since the cold war, it has always been to dismantle western liberal democracy.

This article illustrates the brilliant manner how Russia is trying to achieve their goal.






I challenge everyone, from every "side", to read the entire article. It is not that long, but very informative.




That Uplifting Tweet You Just Shared? A Russian Troll Sent It - Rolling Stone
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If it was an uplifting tweet, who cares where it came from?
 
marke said:
Democrat narrative: 'In spite of free people from around the world and mostly in America freely posting negative messages about Hillary in 2016, we blame the Russians for causing Hillary's defeat by negative social media messenging.'
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Hillary ran a horrible campaign, assumed she would win. That is part of the reason she lost.

Along with the IRA, running masterful propaganda creating division.

Trump also gets credit by the way he used Twitter as well.

Read this book, it explains it well.

Likewar: The Weaponization of Social Media
 
Simpletruther said:
I suspect there are so many fellow Americans on both sides sowing division, making up fake posts like that poll example in the article, etc, That Russian influence would be a drop in the ocean bucket. They are the least of our worries, whatever sneaky divisive thing they can think of has already been done to death by our own people.
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Wrong.

Russia has 1000's of very good internet trolls on the payroll. They are good at what they do.
Russia has been using propaganda for years to influence/create division of their enemies.

Remember in the 1980's, with the rumor the US military created the AIDS virus?

Russians started that....it took 3 years, but eventually it was read on the evening news.
Now, with social media, what used to take 3 years, can happen in 3 weeks....or even 3 days.


This crap works....to deny that, is ignorant.
 
ocean515 said:
From the RS article.

Rather, the IRA encourages us to vilify our neighbor and amplify our differences because, if we grow incapable of compromising, there can be no meaningful democracy.​

Who knew Progressives in general, and the liberal MSM media, specifically, were connected to Russia?
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One of the most ignorant, face palm posts I have ever read.


Congrats.
 
Harshaw said:
Do you not think accusing fellow Americans of being "Russian assets" willy-nilly isn't divisive, and isn't a result of the Russian campaign to divide Americans and undermine faith in our institutions? Do tell.
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Yes...accusing people of being Russian assets "willy nilly" is also decisive.

Exposing and illustrating how elaborate their systems of using social media as a weapon, is not.

Are you familiar with this book:

"Likewar: The Weaponization of Social Media"

Also "Zucked"
 
Thoreau72 said:
Do you reckon there are any CIA employees anywhere who write articles to persuade readers?
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I would think the US also uses these tactics against our enemies.

Do I think the US government is using these tactics on us?

No, there is no evidence of that.

Then again, I do not think the earth is flat either. As there is no evidence of that.
 
Helix said:
now it was Ukraine doing it because Putin likes that talking point and look out, because Hunter Biden!

also buttery mails.
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What?
 
Mason66 said:
If it was an uplifting tweet, who cares where it came from?
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The pros at the IRA, get people to like or follow them. Then they start posting/tweeting controversial and/or conspiracy theories.

They gain the trust by doing this. And unsuspecting people re-post it, or follows them...which makes them look legitimate.

It is actually quite brilliant.
 
Harshaw said:
Seeing as there's a large group of people in this country who see Russians around every corner and behind every mailbox, and everyone's suddenly a "Russian asset" if they say the "wrong" thing, I'd say it's working well beyond their wildest dreams.
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You're one of those people who sling propaganda narratives adeptly, yet consistently dismiss any discussion of the tools and techniques with a verbal "eye roll".

We have a few here.

People who use language too well to seriously believe all of the things that they post.

Some just argue for sport.

I just wonder if they know the harm they are doing to our body politic?
 
3leftsdoo said:
Nothing says "This is a serious journalistic exercise!" like repeatedly calling Trump "Drumpf."

A Russian under every bed,
and one in every liberal head.

:donkeyfla
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But absolutely no denial of the underlying technologies and methods in play.

So that's some progress, I guess.

Marketing and "Public Relations" (the term chosen for the industry because "propaganda" had become negatively weighted) are both industries measured in the tens of billions of dollars.

They wouldn't be getting that money if their "product" didn't work.

As a species we would do well to stop wording about who's lying to who and take a good hard look at HOW they're lying so successfully. WHY they understand our behavior well enough to do it.

And how much we want to allow multi billion dollar industries that exist solely to cause their fellow human beings to misapprehend reality.

For the highest bidder.
 
Harshaw said:
The point is, there are plenty of people who are paranoid about Russians mucking about with things, to the point they are seeing Russians everywhere and accusing fellow Americans of being "Russian assets" with abandon. Which means the Russian campaign to destabilize American democracy and faith therein is working.

Which is entirely relevant to the article, and most certainly adds to the discussion, whether or not it's something you'd personally prefer not to draw attention to.
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This stuff is ubiquitous. We are immersed in it any time we are consuming media.
 
Cramer said:
One of the most ignorant, face palm posts I have ever read.


Congrats.
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Thank you.

And thanks for thinking I would care about your feelings.

I'm not liberal, so I'm not crippled by an obsession with approval from others, but I do appreciate you taking the time, nonetheless.
 
JackA said:
A small measure of how well it is working can be seen in the responses on this board by supposedly politically interested people who bought into the Ukraine meddling conspiracy without hesitation. If a report looks helpful to their side, that's all they need to know.
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The Ukraine meddling theory is established fact supported by court documents. Calling those facts nothing but conspiracy theories is the real lie being perpetuated by dishonest political propaganda.
 
marke said:
Democrat narrative: 'In spite of free people from around the world and mostly in America freely posting negative messages about Hillary in 2016, we blame the Russians for causing Hillary's defeat by negative social media messenging.'
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Nah, they just helped target it with data mined from Facebook.

Modern marketing at its best.
 
marke said:
Are all anti-democrat messages now to be assumed to be wicked Russian interference?
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Are all conservatives now going to expound on their own points?
 
ocean515 said:
Thank you.

And thanks for thinking I would care about your feelings.

I'm not liberal, so I'm not crippled by an obsession with approval from others, but I do appreciate you taking the time, nonetheless.
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Yet, you spend time responding to me.

Buckle up buttercup.
 
marke said:
The Ukraine meddling theory is established fact supported by court documents. Calling those facts nothing but conspiracy theories is the real lie being perpetuated by dishonest political propaganda.
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Cool opinion.

Do you have evidence to back any of that up?
 
Torus34 said:
An interesting article. It does not address a question I've had for a few years now.

Assuming that the Russians did try to place their thumb on the 2016 election scale, they had choices to make. They could slant their work toward a general goal such as attacking our institutions or, alternately, toward one of the two presidential candidates. Much of what I've read suggests that they attempted to aid President Donald Trump. Why him, and not Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton?
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Bang for their buck.

Maximum destruction for your propaganda dollar.

"Hillary fatigue" was already setting in after eight benghazi hearings yielded nothing.

Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.

Americans are at each others throats.
 
marke said:
Are democrats aware that such claims of Russian opposition to democrat candidates are quite possibly politically driven dishonest propaganda themselbes?
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Are you aware that the goal is to undermine american democracy itself? That if they believed backing democrats served them better they would do that?

Don't be surprised to see that happen this tike around.

Conservatives have spent the last three years claiming it made no difference.

What better way to throw a Molotov into American politics than to go full anti-trump this time?
 
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