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David Axelrod and Michelle Obama running for president

Bloomberg is as center as you can get, he could be an independent, a moderate repub, or a blue dog dem. He's been all three.


Therefore, he'll hurt those closest to the center more than those farther to the left, he'll hurt Klobuchar, Buttigieg, and Biden, more than Bernie, Warren, etc

This is true.

If Bloomberg is honestly saying that he wants to run just as an obligation to get Trump defeated, he has chosen the worst possible strategy. To really damage Trump, he should run as an independent, posing as conservatively as he could, to subtract votes from Trump and deliver the victory to the Dem nominee.

The way he is planning this run, he will accomplish absolutely nothing.
 
This is true.

If Bloomberg is honestly saying that he wants to run just as an obligation to get Trump defeated, he has chosen the worst possible strategy. To really damage Trump, he should run as an independent, posing as conservatively as he could, to subtract votes from Trump and deliver the victory to the Dem nominee.

The way he is planning this run, he will accomplish absolutely nothing.

after spending millions to ruin the coal industry and ban guns, how would he run as a conservative? start howling about gays and abortion? pretending to be part of the religious right?
 
Should inaccurate threat titles like this be allowed?
 
Should inaccurate threat titles like this be allowed?

why is calling my thread a threat allowed?

The thread was about Axelrod's actions and speculation that his actions were designed to help Michelle run for president. This isn't breaking news so what are you complaining about
 
This is true.

If Bloomberg is honestly saying that he wants to run just as an obligation to get Trump defeated, he has chosen the worst possible strategy. To really damage Trump, he should run as an independent, posing as conservatively as he could, to subtract votes from Trump and deliver the victory to the Dem nominee.

The way he is planning this run, he will accomplish absolutely nothing.


On the other hand, he might grab some of the moderates who voted for Trump, and are sick of the man, Bloomberg is 25 times richer, and is self made, and not crazy.
 
an interesting conversation on Tucker Carlson tonight-suggesting that Axelrod has been actively savaging Joe Biden in order to clear the road for Michelle running and that Barack Obama is behind this. I don't think she is qualified to be president and she repeatedly said she is not interested, but this is interesting stuff. That Obama has not stuck up for his vice president lends to this speculation

I have the general impression that Mayor Pete is the horse Obama is secretly backing.
 
I pay more in taxes than you make. Now since you deny my claims, using your standards, why should anyone believe you? what is the top ten university you claim? chances I know someone who teaches there

but what does this have to do with the thread? you're just mad that someone who doesn't buy into your Trump hate might be better educated than you are. BTW all three of my degrees are Ivy.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are not better educated than I am.

Well, I can't seem to spend all that I make. Despite almost always traveling first class (sometimes, business when first is not available), mostly only going to Michelin-starred restaurants in any city that has them, going to Europe for vacations at least once a year, sometimes twice, etc., there is always a huge chunk left over, so, I don't envy anybody who [pretends] to make more than I do; not to forget that I own multiple pieces of real state in Europe (two houses, an apartment, five commercial properties, and one farm) inherited from my father who was European born, and unfortunately passed away relatively recently) which greatly enhanced my net worth as when the time is right I can sell them for a small fortune (except one of the houses; I plan to live there; and the farm, I'm thinking of transforming it into a vineyard), so, future retirement is taken care of (again, not to forget that as a dual citizen of the United States and of the European Union (given that my father transmitted his European citizenship to me; I hold both passports), I can retire in Europe when I'm ready to do that, and enjoy my European country's outstanding healthcare - and hopefully make some good wine). So, I'm perfectly fine with my life. No need to be "triggered" - is this how you speak???

Sorry if I don't tell you precisely which university is my alma mater and the two where I earned my doctoral degrees, because my background is too unique and if anybody who knows me reads this, they'd know my identity - always a bad idea in a public Internet forum.

If you know people who teach in my Alma Mater, then you might actually know me, because I'm currently a professor there... :2wave:

This university is just as good as almost any Ivy League one. By elimination you might even deduct which one... quite prestigious, my friend. You can't find anybody in academia who would look down on us... Nothing to be ashamed of; nothing less prestigious than a double-ivy education. Actually my university (and especially my department) is way better than many in the Ivy League, for my specific field. As for my third degree, I could have earned it in the Ivy League too if I wanted (was vehemently invited to apply) but I made the much wiser decision of going to Europe for it, and for various reasons (which again, I won't reveal because they are too unique), this move paid off royally.

So, sorry, not impressed because you [pretend to] hold three Ivy League degrees. Mine are completely equivalent. Actually regarding my European degree, some would say that my world-class, top European school is more prestigious than most Ivy League schools.

What does this have to do with this thread? You tell me, because you're the one who bragged about your education, first. Actually I had NEVER mentioned here my exquisite education before, until you mentioned yours.

You don't like it? Don't start it. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
 
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after spending millions to ruin the coal industry and ban guns, how would he run as a conservative? start howling about gays and abortion? pretending to be part of the religious right?

That's what Trump did. A lifetime Democrat, with quite liberal ideas in all interviews before he decided to run for office, and a Clinton donor. Suddenly he became a Republican, and the base gobbled it up, so, why couldn't Bloomberg do it too? Certainly he has much more money than Trump, to push the point down the gullible masses' throats, in TV ads.
 
On the other hand, he might grab some of the moderates who voted for Trump, and are sick of the man, Bloomberg is 25 times richer, and is self made, and not crazy.

But running inside the Democratic party, he will not get the nomination; too late for that, he is polling 3%, so, he won't actually steal votes from anybody in the general election, because he won't qualify. Running as an independent, he might steal those votes, and might be able to target the ideological profile he thought would be most favorable to stealing votes from Trump, by simply using his immense fortune to flood the airwaves with ads pretending to be conservative. Trump was a lifelong Democrat then suddenly pretended to be a Republican. Bloomberg, much richer, would be able to do the same. Don't underestimate the stupidity of the Republican voters; with massive ads, he might be able to fool many.
 
Economically, you are correct. However, Bloomberg is a control freak who is a huge fan of the nanny state idea. He has spent millions trying to ban guns, and his soda pop laws smack of toxic paternalism. So to those who are looking at the economic positions, I agree with you. To union gun owners etc, he looks extreme. All of the dems running are gun banners to some extent, but no one-other than Biden (who was the leader in the senate for the Clinton gun ban in 94)-has been so involved in trying to restrict gun rights. Bloomberg has created astro-turf anti gun groups and funded them. While Soros is the usual target of right wingers who have a touch of conspiracy theories mixed in with actual facts, Bloomberg has spent far more trying to ban guns

Those who vote primarily on a canidates 2nd Amendment position would not endorse Bloomburg, or even give him a listen. Your post comes as no suprise, I am sure the man is not after your support.
 
Does that upset you?

Upset me? That you think your academic record is stronger than Michelle Obama’s? :lol:

No, because I know it’s not true. Just not sure if I should laugh because of the absurdity of your claim, or if I should be sad that you actually believe it.
 
Thank you for my first chuckle of the day.

I hope that the former First Lady wisely declines to run.

She should just continue writing books and appearing on TV.
 
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Stop derailing this thread with personal comments and stick to the topic or expect mod action.
 
an interesting conversation on Tucker Carlson tonight-suggesting that Axelrod has been actively savaging Joe Biden in order to clear the road for Michelle running and that Barack Obama is behind this. I don't think she is qualified to be president and she repeatedly said she is not interested, but this is interesting stuff. That Obama has not stuck up for his vice president lends to this speculation

I am highly suspicious of heritage monarchies, so Michelle Obama running for president would -not- get my vote. I won't vote for a fake "hope and change" candidate ever again, and another fake change candidate, Trump, won't get my vote either.
 
I don't know that this is true. Michelle Obama is the most admired woman in the world. Michelle Obama is the world's most admired woman | YouGov

She doesn't have a record of her own, but as 2016 demonstrated, anything is possible. Could she be a unifying force, someone that the fractured Democrats could rally around?

I’d love to see her run. She’d certainly have a better chance to win than anybody we have right now. And I think she could carry the office with grace, dignity and integrity, and put us back where we need to be.
 
I’d love to see her run. She’d certainly have a better chance to win than anybody we have right now. And I think she could carry the office with grace, dignity and integrity, and put us back where we need to be.

Yeah, yeah. And she'd go out with another school lunch program and sell it out to General Mills and other gigantic corporate entities, instead of working with local farmers to bring farm-to-table seasonal fruits and vegetables and humanely sourced protein options.

Michelle is no angel. She'd be "better" than Trump in the aspect she wouldn't be a corrupt moron Like Trump, but she'd still sell us out to the highest bidder.
 
Yeah, yeah. And she'd go out with another school lunch program and sell it out to General Mills and other gigantic corporate entities, instead of working with local farmers to bring farm-to-table seasonal fruits and vegetables and humanely sourced protein options.

Humanely sourced protein options. :lol: Unless every single bite of food you put in your mouth is produced by you, then chances are you are not partaking of “humanely sourced protein options” when you sit down for dinner, or when you grab a sandwich for lunch. Still shocked at the number of people who had a problem with her trying to teach kids how to eat healthier.

Michelle is no angel. She'd be "better" than Trump in the aspect she wouldn't be a corrupt moron Like Trump, but she'd still sell us out to the highest bidder.

How so? What makes you think she would do this?
 
I pay more in taxes than you make. Now since you deny my claims, using your standards, why should anyone believe you? what is the top ten university you claim? chances I know someone who teaches there

but what does this have to do with the thread? you're just mad that someone who doesn't buy into your Trump hate might be better educated than you are. BTW all three of my degrees are Ivy.

Let me throw this question out to you, as your opinion I actually do respect, one of the few on the Right here at DP I can say that about. Is there no one on the Dem side you would even give a second look?

If Kasich was running in the GOP primary I would seriously give him a look. I dont agree with his opinion on Cannabis, but then I dont agree with Bidens either. A deal breaker, probably not.
 
an interesting conversation on Tucker Carlson tonight-suggesting that Axelrod has been actively savaging Joe Biden in order to clear the road for Michelle running and that Barack Obama is behind this. I don't think she is qualified to be president and she repeatedly said she is not interested, but this is interesting stuff. That Obama has not stuck up for his vice president lends to this speculation

She could have gained a lot of experience through her fake hospital position (no show job) that she had handed to her.

That must count for something.....right?

Chicago politics was very to her.
 
Let me throw this question out to you, as your opinion I actually do respect, one of the few on the Right here at DP I can say that about. Is there no one on the Dem side you would even give a second look?

If Kasich was running in the GOP primary I would seriously give him a look. I dont agree with his opinion on Cannabis, but then I dont agree with Bidens either. A deal breaker, probably not.

I won't vote for a candidate that supports gun bans or says he or she will appoint anti gun rights judges. at a state level, I will and have voted for Democrats. I voted for Strickland when he ran against Kasich, I voted twice for Richard Cordray when he ran against Dewine. However, for president, the party essentially picks the federal judges. The Democratic Party is the anti gun party so even if there was a pro gun-or more likely, a Democrat who was not anti gun, he would still be appointing anti gun judges at the district and appellate levels since those judges are picked by the relevant party leaders (senators, congressmen)
 
Humanely sourced protein options. :lol: Unless every single bite of food you put in your mouth is produced by you, then chances are you are not partaking of “humanely sourced protein options” when you sit down for dinner, or when you grab a sandwich for lunch. Still shocked at the number of people who had a problem with her trying to teach kids how to eat healthier.



How so? What makes you think she would do this?

Evidence?

Who took part in her Get Moving campaign?

The very corporate entities pumping our kids with sugar riddled "cereal" and junk food, while peddling a "better for you" deception which still fed people poison while making them "feel better about it."

If Obama cared about people she would have refused the big companies their place and offered subsidies to local farmers, right along side federal contracts, to produce food for our schools.
 
Evidence?

Who took part in her Get Moving campaign?

The very corporate entities pumping our kids with sugar riddled "cereal" and junk food, while peddling a "better for you" deception which still fed people poison while making them "feel better about it."

If Obama cared about people she would have refused the big companies their place and offered subsidies to local farmers, right along side federal contracts, to produce food for our schools.

So — are you butthurt because she wanted kids to get up off the couch and eat an apple? Or are you mad that the apple came from a corporate farm and not “Bob the Farmer?”
 
So — are you butthurt because she wanted kids to get up off the couch and eat an apple? Or are you mad that the apple came from a corporate farm and not “Bob the Farmer?”

I don't support fake initiatives that are sold out to corporate america. That's why there is an insurgency into the democratic party right now. Did you miss it?

My issue is this was yet again another good intentions, horrible execution program, which gave MORE tax dollars to the poisoners while claiming to be the antidote. Don't you get it?
 
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