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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Here's an example of Fox News reporting the truth, and at exactly the same time, CBS misleading it's viewers with a phony headline:

    Attachment 67268857
    Sondland CONFIRMED THE QUID PRO QUO.

    The only "issue" is he "Believed" the AID was tied to the investigations.

    He CLEARLY stated the meeting was predicated on a quid pro quo, and he clearly stated he believed, now after evidence has come forward, that the aid was tied to this quid pro quo.

    Holy **** we're seeing an example of the propaganda condition right here folks.





    "The answer is yes."

    "The answer is yes."

    Fox is angle shooting - since Sondland "believed" the aid was tied to a quid pro quo over the meeting, Fox is saying there is no quid pro quo.

    Mulveney admits it.

    You guys are completely out of it.

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Sondland CONFIRMED THE QUID PRO QUO.

    The only "issue" is he "Believed" the AID was tied to the investigations.

    He CLEARLY stated the meeting was predicated on a quid pro quo, and he clearly stated he believed, now after evidence has come forward, that the aid was tied to this quid pro quo.

    Holy **** we're seeing an example of the propaganda condition right here folks.





    "The answer is yes."

    "The answer is yes."

    Fox is angle shooting - since Sondland "believed" the aid was tied to a quid pro quo over the meeting, Fox is saying there is no quid pro quo.

    Mulveney admits it.

    You guys are completely out of it.
    I'm not playing this game with you. You know damned well that he said it was his "presumption" there was a quid pro quo and when he asked the president, Trump told him he wanted no quid pro quo.

    Luckily, the American people aren't so consumed with hatred that they embrace lies the way you do.
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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Most of the country is souring on the impeachment.

    Just do the work we pay you to do, you know, running the country.

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I'm not playing this game with you. You know damned well that he said it was his "presumption" there was a quid pro quo and when he asked the president, Trump told him he wanted no quid pro quo.

    Luckily, the American people aren't so consumed with hatred that they embrace lies the way you do.
    NO. That's -not true- at all. He EXPLICITLY stated the aid was his presumption, but that the meeting was predicated on a quid pro quo.

    Mulveney ADMITTED IT.

    Wow. You flat out DENY reality. Insane. Wow.

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Most of the country is souring on the impeachment.

    Just do the work we pay you to do, you know, running the country.
    No. You have to do it ethically.

    We elected the house to hold Trump accountable, so they are doing their job, AND passing hundreds of bills for the american people. 400+ bills passed, all stalled by partisan hack McConnell.

    You don't like it?

    Take it up with the republicans, who refuse to legislate, or, apparently, act with ethics.

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Then you will be one of those "independents" (Libertarian gives it away that you lean right, so please, don't even claim you're Independent) who will enable future presidents to endlessly precondition aid on political errands.

    And you will rue the day you support this with your snide, high nosed "Independent" proclamations.
    What a shock that your incredibly narrow thinking discards anyone who disagrees(period) Easier to assume you understand what a libertarian is than actually ask about leanings or read some posting history(period) Can't imagine why your having trouble grasping the point made
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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You only need oversight and checks and balances when Democrats are President. Duh.
    Kinda like when Obama blew the **** out of Libya?

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    If Trump is thrown out of office I have ZERO faith the Trumpers will not begin a civil war.

    That, in and of itself, is dangerous enough to mean the senate must remove him.

    Can you imagine if Obama did a rambling interview for an hour like Obama did on F&F yesterday? The Repubs would have demanded the 25h be invoked.
    They would have impeached him on day one for taking bribes through his lawyer and secretly paying off porn star affairs.

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    What a shock that your incredibly narrow thinking discards anyone who disagrees(period) Easier to assume you understand what a libertarian is than actually ask about leanings or read some posting history(period) Can't imagine why your having trouble grasping the point made
    Oh, I'm not grasping at anything. I am simply pointing out that the reality here, that you refusing to support holding our president accountable for corrupt actions, will have massive implications for decades ahead.

    The man is pardoning war criminals while moms who lied about where they lived so their kids could get a better education rot in jail.

    Total embarassment. This, allowing what he has done, will create a kleptocratic executive with broad power and centralized power to create out of thin air scandals to befit themselves. Claiming you're a libertarian while "tiring" of our congress doing it's constitutional duty, to hold the executive accountable, is contradictory and confusing.

    You either support our constitution, or you don't.

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    Re: Independents souring on impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    They would have impeached him on day one for taking bribes through his lawyer and secretly paying off porn star affairs.
    Absolutely, and there would have been no relenting. He would have been impeached for Collusion, he would have been impeached for emoluments, for campaign finance violations, for this ukrainian scandal.

    They would have endlessly done this.

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