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The Republican party has lost all credibility and become a party of corruption.

There has been no factual testimony from anyone that anything was done by Trump "to help himself politically".

anyone that has said anything like that, has been total conjecture and opinion on their part.
 
i think Republicans love the corruption.

Rush and Sean have convinced them for decades (all to enrich Rush and Sean) that Dems/Liberals/Ghays/Foreigners have been cheating them out of their birthright for forever and cheating is now nothing to them (because they NEED the revenge).

they just don't know that Rush and Sean played them better than Trump did.
 
and when the IG report drops and Durham report drops Dems will call our DOJ corrupt....Dems are broken party and are getting exposed as corrupt....up is down:roll:

Do you have an advance copy of the IG report? No? OK, let's see what it says. Unlike you and the Trump cult I have no fear of truth and I want every corrupt politician held accountable. Too bad you can't say the same thing as you defend Trump's corruption because he's on your team.
 
There has been no factual testimony from anyone that anything was done by Trump "to help himself politically".

Oh ffs just stop. Stop. The evidence is everywhere. The idiot in chief is already running ads about burisma. He absolutely benefitted politically.

People here have already admitted he would use th fact an investigation into biden existed to call him crooked joe or some other stupid quip to rile you lot up.

Dont you get sick and tired of being used and abused?

Just ****ing pathetic.
 
Oh ffs just stop. Stop. The evidence is everywhere. The idiot in chief is already running ads about burisma. He absolutely benefitted politically.

People here have already admitted he would use th fact an investigation into biden existed to call him crooked joe or some other stupid quip to rile you lot up.

Dont you get sick and tired of being used and abused?

Just ****ing pathetic.

If you think there is factual evidence, present it.

I've seen none.
 
At this point, no rational intelligent person can deny that Trump tried to use aid to Ukraine to extort/bribe/quid pro quo to have a foreign government open an investigation into Biden to help himself politically.

As Republicans deny this, they're only proving themselves to be a dishonest party who don't mind dishonestly manipulating voters in the same way totalitarian regimes do. It's extremely disturbing.

The only real question now is were Trump's actions so corrupt that he should be removed from office? There's no question regarding whether his actions were corrupt.

The Republican party has revealed itself to be an openly corrupt party.

I predict they will be posting this a nothingburger show trial. I would be shocked if any of the hardcore supporters here change their behavior. I hope the actual party will soon put country above partisan politics, and screw Pompeo. He is planning a senate run. What a joke.
 
You are aware that Zelenskiy made no such public announcement, right? Evidently he wasn't actually forced to do anything...regardless this imaginary testimony of yours.

Yes. Trump mentioned Biden directly, but there is no indication that the mention has anything to do with politics.

You see...you keep wanting to make this about the 2020 election...and you keep failing to find someone to provide factual testimony of that.

No matter how many times you repeat a lie, without factual evidence...it's remains a lie.

No, no no.

The sole reason he never made the investigation announcement is because idiot potus got caught.

Holy ****.

Doesnt it bother you that trump didnt demand an j vestigation be opened just that they SAY ITS OPEN?

THAT PROVES WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT this was for political gain and had absolutely nothing to do with corruption.
 
If you think there is factual evidence, present it.

I've seen none.

So Sondland was just confused? He misunderstood what the president wanted? Zelensky who was troubled about the statement he was being forced to make was also confused?
 
No, no no.

The sole reason he never made the investigation announcement is because idiot potus got caught.

Holy ****.

Doesnt it bother you that trump didnt demand an j vestigation be opened just that they SAY ITS OPEN?

THAT PROVES WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT this was for political gain and had absolutely nothing to do with corruption.

Nope. That does not prove anything about "political gain".

As Sondland said, Trump wanted it public so they can't make a private promise and then back out. They would be on record if the announcement was public.

Multiple testimony has confirmed that it was always about Ukraine's history of corruption.

Again...no matter how many times you repeat a lie, without factual evidence...it's remains a lie.
 
So Sondland was just confused? He misunderstood what the president wanted? Zelensky who was troubled about the statement he was being forced to make was also confused?

What makes you think either of them were "confused"?
 
"The Republican party has lost all credibility and become a party of corruption."

That's like saying "The Democratic Party has begun to support civil rights" - it's 50 years ago. I mean, it keeps getting worse, but it's not news.

This.

The GOP'ers, long ago, gave up all pretense of the "morality" and "values" and "principles" they have claimed as the bedrock of their ideology.

I am forever amused by the "recent" revelations about the GOP (and the conservative movement in America, in general).
 
There has been no factual testimony from anyone that anything was done by Trump "to help himself politically".

Trump stated on TV that he wanted Ukraine to investigate fighting

All of the Foreign Service officers including Amb. Sondland stated that Trump wouldn't release the money until Zelensky announced it on TV that he was going to investigate Biden. You seem to think that are making this **** up that's absurd there are a wealth of reasons why they came to that conclusion they dont just make it up out of thin air that's absurd
 
Zelensky was forced to make a public announcement about an investigation into Burisma and the DNC servers. We have plenty of testimony establishing that. We have Trump on the record mentioning Biden directly.

Feel free to deny that Burisma is about Hunter Biden. It's an absurd denial and I have no interest in engaging in absurdities.

cool show us the public announcement he made. i haven't seen it.
from my understanding they received the money
there was no public announcement and no investigations.

so not sure where you are getting your information but mycroft is right.

there has been 0 factual testimony that anyone has any evidence about what trump did.

so far in fact they have all actually said that not only did they not have any information but
they also have no evidence of quid pro quo.

speculation is not evidence.
 
Nope. That does not prove anything about "political gain".

As Sondland said, Trump wanted it public so they can't make a private promise and then back out. They would be on record if the announcement was public.

Multiple testimony has confirmed that it was always about Ukraine's history of corruption.

Again...no matter how many times you repeat a lie, without factual evidence...it's remains a lie.

you have to remember when you don't care about facts then you can make whatever you want up.
leftist have the issue of if they say it then it is true. no matter if it is false.
 
and when the IG report drops and Durham report drops Dems will call our DOJ corrupt....Dems are broken party and are getting exposed as corrupt....up is down:roll:

So you're predicting the dems will do what Trump has already done.

He already used DOJ corruption as a defense against the Mueller report. The biggest difference is Trump and his acolytes didn't wait until the report came out.
 
Trump stated on TV that he wanted Ukraine to investigate fighting

No period to your sentence. Did you leave something off? If not, then what is this "fighting" thing? Maybe you should just present a quote of Trump saying whatever it is you think he said.

All of the Foreign Service officers including Amb. Sondland stated that Trump wouldn't release the money until Zelensky announced it on TV that he was going to investigate Biden. You seem to think that are making this **** up that's absurd there are a wealth of reasons why they came to that conclusion they dont just make it up out of thin air that's absurd

That highlighted part is simply not true. You are either astonishingly unaware...or you are deliberately lying. Either case means it is useless to engage in further discussion with you.

You are dismissed. (see my sig)
 
No period to your sentence. Did you leave something off? If not, then what is this "fighting" thing? Maybe you should just present a quote of Trump saying whatever it is you think he said.
I type very fast, stream of consciousness, don't often get the every edit in. Looking at that sentence, I probably mean "Biden".
That highlighted part is simply not true. You are either astonishingly unaware...or you are deliberately lying. Either case means it is useless to engage in further discussion with you.

You are dismissed. (see my sig)


He said Guiliani told him

But, as Guiliani has stated he is Trump's lawyer, time and time again Trump has directed underlings to "go see Guiliani" and Trump has confirmed that Guiliani is exacting his will ( whose other will could it possibly be? ) ,
as Guiliani speaks on the authority of Trump, it is the same thing.

In testimony after testimony, it was established UNEQUIVOCALLY, and as ADMITTED BY TRUMP,
when the word Burisma and 2016 elections is mentioned, means the Bidens and the DNC Server/Crowdstrike, etc., of the 2016 elections.

YOu think Guiliani is so stupid he is going to make **** up that Trump doesn't want to do, and do this on the world stage and expose himself to legal jeopardy?

This is why, folks, Sondland said, in answering whether or not there was a quid pro quo, Sondland said, unequivocally, "the answer is yes".

It is also why Bolton told Hill, "Tell the lawyers".

You think Bolton would instruct Hill to "tell the lawyers" about what, they're playing tiddlywinks in the romper room?

Wake the **** up.

You are dismissed.

 
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