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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Has anyone seen ONE WORD any Republican in Congress has said during the entire process that shows they are interested in the truth?

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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The Republicans haven't asked for Volker to testify...that would be the Dems. Unfortunately, Volker didn't help the Dems any. They probably regret asking him to come and testify in an open hearing.
    It has always amazed me how people like trump and you can just straight up lie when you know that we know that you are lying.
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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    CNN did an article on the topic that the witness was bad for Republicans after they had claimed he'd help them:

    How Republicans' star witness turned - CNNPolitics

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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    It has always amazed me how people like trump and you can just straight up lie when you know that we know that you are lying.
    Trump and his minions refer to it as "alternative facts". In their minds it isn't lying, but rather their versions of what they consider "the truth"

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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Quote Originally Posted by Puigb View Post
    Trump and his minions refer to it as "alternative facts". In their minds it isn't lying, but rather their versions of what they consider "the truth"
    That's just a coward's license to lie.
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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Volker is pretty sharp but was forced to correct his earlier testimony and admit that Sondland did blow up the WH meeting with Ukraine officials by bringing up political investigations though he still resisted testifying that Bolton abruptly ended the meeting claiming instead that the meeting just "ended abruptly".

    I find Morrison's testimony that he reported the Trump/Zalinsky Telcon to NSA counsel because he was worried about leaks and political fallout while not considering the substance an issue entirely unconvincing. He then determines that bringing up political investigations during the Trump/Zalinsky call was a substantive issue. Mexican jumping beans dance around less.

    Finally Jordan ended swinging from the chandeliers again. No Congressman, the Rudy gang frigging around in Ukraine foreign policy is not the Dems fault. Idiot Sundland is not the Dems fault. They are both your boy Fat Donald's fault. Volker and Morrison leaving government are not the Dems fault either. Those go against Fat Donald's ledger as well.

    Funny in a way but I find this "dancing on the head of a pin" testimony more similar to the Iran/Contra Scandal testimony than either Watergate testimony or the Clinton Impeachment testimony. It was wholly unconvincing in Iran/Contra and its wholly unconvincing here as well as the witnesses just end up continually walking backwards.

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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    So many of the witnesses are throwing Sondland under the bus it almost looks like a coordinated effort. I actually do not think it coordinated as much as it is simply more proof that Trump lap dog Sondland was and is entirely out of his element as that blustery cell phone call from Ukraine to Trumpkin also proves.

    Morrison tossed Sondland back under on Tuesday.

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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Volker is pretty sharp but was forced to correct his earlier testimony and admit that Sondland did blow up the WH meeting with Ukraine officials by bringing up political investigations though he still resisted testifying that Bolton abruptly ended the meeting claiming instead that the meeting just "ended abruptly".

    I find Morrison's testimony that he reported the Trump/Zalinsky Telcon to NSA counsel because he was worried about leaks and political fallout while not considering the substance an issue entirely unconvincing. He then determines that bringing up political investigations during the Trump/Zalinsky call was a substantive issue. Mexican jumping beans dance around less.

    Finally Jordan ended swinging from the chandeliers again. No Congressman, the Rudy gang frigging around in Ukraine foreign policy is not the Dems fault. Idiot Sundland is not the Dems fault. They are both your boy Fat Donald's fault. Volker and Morrison leaving government are not the Dems fault either. Those go against Fat Donald's ledger as well.

    Funny in a way but I find this "dancing on the head of a pin" testimony more similar to the Iran/Contra Scandal testimony than either Watergate testimony or the Clinton Impeachment testimony. It was wholly unconvincing in Iran/Contra and its wholly unconvincing here as well as the witnesses just end up continually walking backwards.
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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    Volker and Morrison looked shifty and uncomfortable. I wonder how these guys felt about serving Trump.

    Their answers often sounded evasive, as if they hoped listeners would believe neither had a clue what Trump, Rudy and Sondland wanted to accomplish.

    Nunes, Jordan, Stefanik and Turner continue to attempt to portray this Ukraine scandal as no big deal. Too many facts fly in the face of their alternative reality.

    Impeachment looms large and imminent.

    Up next ------> Sondland. Today we get to see and hear his and GOP leadership's latest spin tactics.

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    Re: So the repubs guy Volker, blew the Biden consipracy theory out of the water

    So...I made a mistake. The House Republicans did, in fact, call Volker for an open hearing.

    Schiffty made the mistake of granting that request. Volker irreparably damaged the Dem's strategy.
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