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Who Is A Constituent?

Moderate Right

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Let's talk reality, not technicality. The reality is that if you don't vote for a person then you are not their constituent if they won. A politician can lose the vote of a constituent but they can't lose the vote of someone who did not vote for them or is never going to vote for them. Therefore, that person is not really a constituent. The politician could tell this person they don't care and that the person can go take a flying leap and it would make no difference to them politically. I have written Congress critters in several different states where I lived before and the bottom line is, if you are of the opposition party then the politician really doesn't give a **** about you or your ideas and suggestions (sometimes they don't even if you are one who actually voted for them).

Are you a liberal or progressive who doesn't like Trump? Tough cookies. Are you a Democrat who is going to call and harass a Republican politician over their policy ideas? Who gives a ****? Are you a Republican who is going to call and harass a Democratic politician over their policy ideas? Who gives a ****? Certainly they don't. Do you think it really matters that millions of people protest one party's policy, as in if one million Democrats protest a Trump policy or one million people protest either a Schumer or Pelosi policy? If you can't convince them that you are really a voting constituent and that they may lose your vote then your opinion means zero, zip, notta to them.

Hillary and some others even currently running for 2020 claim that if president, they would represent all Americans. But, would they? How would Hillary or one of the 2020 contenders represent a right wing conservative constituent or vice versa? What right wing conservative policies would they be for to really represent all Americans? Conversely, if Trump were to say that he represents all Americans, what left wing liberal policies would Trump favor to appeal to them? The answer to all of it is zero, zip, notta. Therefore, if you didn't vote for or would never vote for someone then you are really not that politician's constituent because they can't lose the vote of someone who was never going to vote for them anyway. Both sides realize that elections are a winner take all where you only truly represent 50% of voters (generally speaking, rounded off) and that the winning victor is going to try cramming their policies down the throats of the 100% while claiming that they represent all Americans.
 
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By your assertion, less than half the country are the constituency of the president, so the minority group is ramming this habadashed nonsense down all of our throats.
 
If you live in their district, you are a constituent. In Trump's case, his district is the whole country.

What we have now is a problem in that the extremes are running both major parties. So Trump caters to evangelicals and white nationalists, while the Democrats try to out-socialist one another.
 
This is a quite disgusting position. What you're saying is that a politician has no obligation to represent everyone in the district, state or country he was elected in, he should only hold loyalty to his core voters. Jesus H Christ, why do you hate our country, Constitution and everything we hold dear?

Politicians are elected to represent ALL of the citizens in their constituency and nobody in America is completely without representation.
 
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This is a quite disgusting position. What you're saying is that a politician has no obligation to represent everyone in the district, state or country he was elected in, he should only hold loyalty to his core voters. Jesus H Christ, why do you hate our country, Constitution and everything we hold dear?

Politicians are elected to represent ALL of the citizens in their constituency and nobody in America is completely without representation.
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If Hillary was elected in 2016 or any Democrat is elected in 2020 please explain to me the policies they will favor to represent right wing conservatives. They won't. The cold hard fact is that no matter which side is elected, they will force their policies down the throats of the 100%, claiming that they represent all Americans. No matter who wins, they will really only serve about 50% of Americans. That's just the honest truth, no sugar coating.
 
Moderate Right said:
Let's talk reality, not technicality. The reality is that if you don't vote for a person then you are not their constituent if they won. A politician can lose the vote of a constituent but they can't lose the vote of someone who did not vote for them or is never going to vote for them. Therefore, that person is not really a constituent. The politician could tell this person they don't care and that the person can go take a flying leap and it would make no difference to them politically. I have written Congress critters in several different states where I lived before and the bottom line is, if you are of the opposition party then the politician really doesn't give a **** about you or your ideas and suggestions (sometimes they don't even if you are one who actually voted for them).

Are you a liberal or progressive who doesn't like Trump? Tough cookies. Are you a Democrat who is going to call and harass a Republican politician over their policy ideas? Who gives a ****? Are you a Republican who is going to call and harass a Democratic politician over their policy ideas? Who gives a ****? Certainly they don't. Do you think it really matters that millions of people protest one party's policy, as in if one million Democrats protest a Trump policy or one million people protest either a Schumer or Pelosi policy? If you can't convince them that you are really a voting constituent and that they may lose your vote then your opinion means zero, zip, notta to them.

Hillary and some others even currently running for 2020 claim that if president, they would represent all Americans. But, would they? How would Hillary or one of the 2020 contenders represent a right wing conservative constituent or vice versa? What right wing conservative policies would they be for to really represent all Americans? Conversely, if Trump were to say that he represents all Americans, what left wing liberal policies would Trump favor to appeal to them? The answer to all of it is zero, zip, notta. Therefore, if you didn't vote for or would never vote for someone then you are really not that politician's constituent because they can't lose the vote of someone who was never going to vote for them anyway. Both sides realize that elections are a winner take all where you only truly represent 50% of voters (generally speaking, rounded off) and that the winning victor is going to try cramming their policies down the throats of the 100% while claiming that they represent all Americans.
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How many of the 40% of the American population that did not vote in 2016 are complaining about Trump?
They have no skin in the game. Solution to those individuals, go vote.
 
Moderate Right said:
Let's talk reality, not technicality. The reality is that if you don't vote for a person then you are not their constituent if they won. A politician can lose the vote of a constituent but they can't lose the vote of someone who did not vote for them or is never going to vote for them. Therefore, that person is not really a constituent. The politician could tell this person they don't care and that the person can go take a flying leap and it would make no difference to them politically. I have written Congress critters in several different states where I lived before and the bottom line is, if you are of the opposition party then the politician really doesn't give a **** about you or your ideas and suggestions (sometimes they don't even if you are one who actually voted for them).

Are you a liberal or progressive who doesn't like Trump? Tough cookies. Are you a Democrat who is going to call and harass a Republican politician over their policy ideas? Who gives a ****? Are you a Republican who is going to call and harass a Democratic politician over their policy ideas? Who gives a ****? Certainly they don't. Do you think it really matters that millions of people protest one party's policy, as in if one million Democrats protest a Trump policy or one million people protest either a Schumer or Pelosi policy? If you can't convince them that you are really a voting constituent and that they may lose your vote then your opinion means zero, zip, notta to them.

Hillary and some others even currently running for 2020 claim that if president, they would represent all Americans. But, would they? How would Hillary or one of the 2020 contenders represent a right wing conservative constituent or vice versa? What right wing conservative policies would they be for to really represent all Americans? Conversely, if Trump were to say that he represents all Americans, what left wing liberal policies would Trump favor to appeal to them? The answer to all of it is zero, zip, notta. Therefore, if you didn't vote for or would never vote for someone then you are really not that politician's constituent because they can't lose the vote of someone who was never going to vote for them anyway. Both sides realize that elections are a winner take all where you only truly represent 50% of voters (generally speaking, rounded off) and that the winning victor is going to try cramming their policies down the throats of the 100% while claiming that they represent all Americans.
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I agree. We need a DNA database with everyone in it and we should have to cast our ballot in blood so our representatives will know exactly who supported them or opposed them.
 
Moderate Right said:
If Hillary was elected in 2016 or any Democrat is elected in 2020 please explain to me the policies they will favor to represent right wing conservatives. They won't. The cold hard fact is that no matter which side is elected, they will force their policies down the throats of the 100%, claiming that they represent all Americans. No matter who wins, they will really only serve about 50% of Americans. That's just the honest truth, no sugar coating.
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What are you afraid that Hillary Clinton would have done if she had been elected POTUS in 2016?

I want you to list actual polices and not Fox News talking points.

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Once again I turn to one of my reference works.

"Politicians take care of their party cohorts and their important constituents. Their important constituents? Those who contribute large sums to their 'campaign' funds." Aloysius Goldpen A Beginner's Guide to Government.

The book, unfortunately, is not in print.
 
Outlook said:
How many of the 40% of the American population that did not vote in 2016 are complaining about Trump?
They have no skin in the game. Solution to those individuals, go vote.
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Good question.
 
Lisa said:
What are you afraid that Hillary Clinton would have done if she had been elected POTUS in 2016?

I want you to list actual polices and not Fox News talking points.

1.)

2.)

3.)

4.)

5.)
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I don't listen to Fox News so if you can't have an honest conversation about that then we can't debate anything honestly.
 
Moderate Right said:
I don't listen to Fox News so if you can't have an honest conversation about that then we can't debate anything honestly.
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What are the anti-conservtive policies that you believe that Hillary Clinton would have enacted had she won the 2016 election?
 
Lisa said:
What are the anti-conservtive policies that you believe that Hillary Clinton would have enacted had she won the 2016 election?
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Kind of a ridiculous question but I'll give you my main biggest concern: I am a business owner and I pay my employees $3-$4 more than the federal minimum wage. I am in the service industry. Hillary talked about raising the minimum wage up to $12 but when confronted by a journalist, admitted that if a Democratic House and Senate sent her a bill for $15 per hour she would sign it. Even a raise up to $12 would destroy my business. As I said, I am in the service industry so with increases in the minimum wage I can't just raise my prices up 25 cents per item and cover the difference. I would have to raise my customers up approximately $1.50 per hour for every $1 raise in the minimum wage. So, let's say for the sake of argument that I had to raise my employees up $5 per hour. That means I would have to raise my customers up $7.50 per hour to cover the wage increase. That would destroy my business as enough of my customers would rather just go without than paying that much of an increase (even over time). I have always voted a mix of Democrats and Republicans but with the Democratic party moving further and further left, the 2020 field has every single candidate wanting to raise the minimum wage up to $15 and I would go belly up. As much as I dislike many things about Trump, he would not put me out of business when virtually every candidate currently in the Democratic field would. And, the Republican tax cut helped me out considerably which allowed me to raise my employees up $1 per hour from where they had been.
 
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