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Startbucks' Open Bathroom Policy Killing Sales. Love It When PC Suck-ups Fail.

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Starbucks’ open bathroom policy may be hurting foot traffic: Study

Since opening its bathroom doors to the public in the wake of a controversial incident in Philadelphia, the coffee giant has seen a 6.8% drop in store attendance per month relative to other coffee shops nearby, according to the findings of a joint study from the University of Texas at Dallas and Boston College.

“When you throw open the policy to let people come in and just use the bathrooms and the tables, maybe people come in and find the bathrooms are dirty, and the tables are crowded,” David Solomon, Assistant Professor at Boston College Carroll School of Management, told YFi PM. “And so they don't buy the coffee as well.”

Well, knock me over with a feather!

You wonder if Starbucks is run by a bunch of morons. Who in their right minds think that by allowing drug-users and bums to roam willy-nilly in your business, paying customers looking for a quiet table and a clean bathroom would stand for that?

This was a sop the far left. Recall the outrage when two blacks were arrested at a Starbucks last spring. They were loitering and not buying anything, and the manager called the police. The video of the arrests went viral, and the idiot CEO, Kevin Johnson immediately changed to policy to allow anyone to use the bathrooms and occupy tables without buying anything.

Here is the motto businesses should follow: Do NOT EVER cave to the PC leftist nuts. They don't care if your business fails. Do the commonsense things that keep customers coming in.
 
Sure it wasn’t all the right-wing whiners who were butthurt over a Christmas cup? Oh wait - my bad. Y’all just like to scream about boycotts, but you never actually do anything about it.
 
Hmmmm....from your article

‘We see real customers’
The company disputed the study’s findings — and took a shot at its methodology.

“Customers are visiting Starbucks at record numbers,” a spokesperson told Yahoo Finance. “Rather than tracking cell phone data without user knowledge, we see real customers in our stores and the connections they make with our partners (employees) every day across more than 31,000 stores.”
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Mashmont said:
Starbucks’ open bathroom policy may be hurting foot traffic: Study

Since opening its bathroom doors to the public in the wake of a controversial incident in Philadelphia, the coffee giant has seen a 6.8% drop in store attendance per month relative to other coffee shops nearby, according to the findings of a joint study from the University of Texas at Dallas and Boston College.

“When you throw open the policy to let people come in and just use the bathrooms and the tables, maybe people come in and find the bathrooms are dirty, and the tables are crowded,” David Solomon, Assistant Professor at Boston College Carroll School of Management, told YFi PM. “And so they don't buy the coffee as well.”

Well, knock me over with a feather!

You wonder if Starbucks is run by a bunch of morons. Who in their right minds think that by allowing drug-users and bums to roam willy-nilly in your business, paying customers looking for a quiet table and a clean bathroom would stand for that?

This was a sop the far left. Recall the outrage when two blacks were arrested at a Starbucks last spring. They were loitering and not buying anything, and the manager called the police. The video of the arrests went viral, and the idiot CEO, Kevin Johnson immediately changed to policy to allow anyone to use the bathrooms and occupy tables without buying anything.

Here is the motto businesses should follow: Do NOT EVER cave to the PC leftist nuts. They don't care if your business fails. Do the commonsense things that keep customers coming in.
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Ah, conservatism. Always making people look for the tiniest thing to be outraged about while minimizing major problems in our world. :lol:
 
Phys251 said:
Ah, conservatism. Always making people look for the tiniest thing to be outraged about while minimizing major problems in our world. :lol:
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You mean like mythical climate change, mythical white nationalist attacks, and mythical impeachable offenses? Funny how leftwingers hate religion, but embrace mythology whole hog.
 
Simple solution - if a business does not operate the way that you feel it should, then inform it's management of the perceived problem(s), make your recommendations for solving them and don't continue to patronize it. You may be surprised by how well constructive criticism is appreciated.
 
SkyFox76 said:
Hmmmm....from your article
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The interesting is the study is correlating data to justify it's assumptions (i.e. the drops in foot traffic were closer to homeless shelters) versus any on site inspections to determine whether there was a significant change in who is loitering in Starbucks bathrooms. In urban centers Starbucks and other fast food chains are considered public bathrooms anyway; for better or for worse.
 
ElChupacabra said:
The interesting is the study is correlating data to justify it's assumptions (i.e. the drops in foot traffic were closer to homeless shelters) versus any on site inspections to determine whether there was a significant change in who is loitering in Starbucks bathrooms. In urban centers Starbucks and other fast food chains are considered public bathrooms anyway; for better or for worse.
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It just seems like some the urban folks don't know how to behave like humans.
 
Mashmont said:
You mean like mythical climate change, mythical white nationalist attacks, and mythical impeachable offenses? Funny how leftwingers hate religion, but embrace mythology whole hog.
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:lamo

When you try to hijack your own thread, it says something about the quality of your OP. :lol:
 
Mashmont said:
It just seems like some the urban folks don't know how to behave like humans.
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The urban folks are generally fine; you'll get bad apples wherever you go. The thing with cities is there's a lot more people concentrated in one area, which can impact how people behave around each other.
 
Phys251 said:
:lamo

When you try to hijack your own thread, it says something about the quality of your OP. :lol:
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Just responding to one of the posts. Thanks.
 
Mashmont said:
Starbucks doesn't want to admit its failure in kissing up to the leftwing nuts Are you surprised?
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competition may have something to do with the slight drop.
 
ElChupacabra said:
The urban folks are generally fine; you'll get bad apples wherever you go. The thing with cities is there's a lot more people concentrated in one area, which can impact how people behave around each other.
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Yeah, and plus some of the liberal cities welcome/import some very unproductive people. Not helping Starbucks.
 
Mythical white nationalist attacks? Doesn't Mashmont ever get tired of being wrong?



You can pick any batch of statistics you like to illustrate the seriousness of white nationalist terrorism. The Anti-Defamation League calculates that “73.3% of U.S. extremist-related murders in the past decade were committed by right-wing extremists, including white supremacists.”

The Christian Science Monitor reports: “Terror attacks around the world have receded since 2014, falling from about 17,000 in 2014 to about 11,000 in 2017, according to the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database." However, while Islamic terrorist attacks are decreasing in the Middle East, “the U.S. has seen a recent surge, experts say, led by a more visible and aggressive community of white supremacists and neo-Nazis. There were 65 terror-related incidents in the U.S. in 2017, up from 6 in 2006. Of these, 37 were tied to anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic, or other racist, xenophobic motivations.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/06/just-how-bad-is-white-nationalist-terror-problem/

White nationalism-fueled violence is on the rise, but FBI is slow to call it domestic terrorism
 
Mashmont said:
Just responding to one of the posts. Thanks.
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And now you are in full retreat mode. :)

Can you FOR ONCE own up to the very words that you wrote? We can't even have a civil discussion here when you're derailing your own thread! :lol:
 
zyzygy said:
Mythical white nationalist attacks? Doesn't Mashmont ever get tired of being wrong?



You can pick any batch of statistics you like to illustrate the seriousness of white nationalist terrorism. The Anti-Defamation League calculates that “73.3% of U.S. extremist-related murders in the past decade were committed by right-wing extremists, including white supremacists.”

The Christian Science Monitor reports: “Terror attacks around the world have receded since 2014, falling from about 17,000 in 2014 to about 11,000 in 2017, according to the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database." However, while Islamic terrorist attacks are decreasing in the Middle East, “the U.S. has seen a recent surge, experts say, led by a more visible and aggressive community of white supremacists and neo-Nazis. There were 65 terror-related incidents in the U.S. in 2017, up from 6 in 2006. Of these, 37 were tied to anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic, or other racist, xenophobic motivations.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/06/just-how-bad-is-white-nationalist-terror-problem/

White nationalism-fueled violence is on the rise, but FBI is slow to call it domestic terrorism
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NBC, huh? lol.

The epitome of fake news.
 
Phys251 said:
And now you are in full retreat mode. :)

Can you FOR ONCE own up to the very words that you wrote? We can't even have a civil discussion here when you're derailing your own thread! :lol:
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Since it's my thread, I can't derail it. Besides, I'm not derailing it. The OP was about Starbucks allowing undesirables to screw up their business. So further discussing those undesirables is right on track.
 
Op's own link says "may be" in the title. OP is entirely certain of claims. This is a case study in confirmation bias.
 
ElChupacabra said:
The urban folks are generally fine; you'll get bad apples wherever you go. The thing with cities is there's a lot more people concentrated in one area, which can impact how people behave around each other.
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The Nazis were very critical of cities and their inhabitants.
 
Is it possible that all that caffeine has finally jolted people into the awareness that $4 is too much for a cup of coffee?

:shrug:
 
Mashmont said:
You mean like mythical climate change, mythical white nationalist attacks, and mythical impeachable offenses? Funny how leftwingers hate religion, but embrace mythology whole hog.
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/// leftwingers hate religion /// <---- Are you presenting this as an uninformed 'opinion', or a 'statement of fact' ? If it's the latter, please provide a link to support that positive claim. If it's the former, it falls flat on it's face as sheer nonsense, and need not further be addressed. Which of the two is it ?
 
Mashmont said:
Yeah, and plus some of the liberal cities welcome/import some very unproductive people. Not helping Starbucks.
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Well in this case I'd want more information than this study provides; they're not drawing firm conclusions either since the wording used is "may" and "appears to". As I stated earlier, it's correlating data to make its conclusions, and since could well be other variables it's hard to say it's just bathroom policy that's affecting this change.
 
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