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The Real Enemy of the people is Fox News

The RW has been doing this for decades. Since Newt's speakership, and prior, even to the McCarthy era; Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Coulter, Limbaugh. Carlson to a lesser extent.

There is no literal match for the right wing publishing machine on the left. The right wing has been pushing seditious, dehumanizing rhetoric for decades. The 1st amendment protects this right; but it also protects my right to call out their odious, hate filled, divisive rhetoric.

Look at Candace Owens. She goes on and on about how liberals and democrats are enemies of the country; how Obama is responsible for the division; how she doesn't recall RACISM in her lifetime prior to Obama. That being said, she also successfully sued her city when she was younger for $37,500 due to her recieving racist phone calls from a politician's kid.

Convenient, that.

Fox news right now is the sole bloc protecting the president from a watershed of disapproval. They are state media, state propaganda, and they are constantly pushing false narratives, outright lies, and should be absolutely admonished for claiming they're "fair" or "balanced."

no match? the left has almost ALL of the big newspapers and 3 propaganda machines on tv in their favor... it's like 23 to 1. maybe 2.

btw does the left EVER state anything that does not include some sort of sanctimonious BS?
 
Well let's see.

The highest rated shows on Fox News, of any kind and format, reach about 3-5 million viewers, depending on current events.

At present, the liberal MSM networks (ABC, NBC, CBS News) reach @ 15-20 million combined, depending on current events.

Liberal fake news cable (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) reach about 3-5 million combined.

Add in the circulation and website visits for WaPo, NYT, LAT, etc., and you reach another 10-15 million.

So as it is, Fox News reaches about 1/10th the audience of the rest of the liberal fake news media the public views.

And Fox News is the enemy of the people...…

Bull****.

The enemy of the people is the liberal MSM news complex, and proof of that is their indoctrinated acolytes creating threads like this one.

Ratings are not an indicator of quality, but of who watched a station and when, and are only of use to advertisers. Otherwise McDonalds would be the best burgers in the world because they claim to sell the most. Still, if you think 'more' equals 'better', it isn't my problem.
 
Along with Twitter and Faceebook , which are decidedly left wing
 
Ratings are not an indicator of quality, but of who watched a station and when, and are only of use to advertisers. Otherwise McDonalds would be the best burgers in the world because they claim to sell the most. Still, if you think 'more' equals 'better', it isn't my problem.

I imagine you thought this was a good argument. That isn't my problem.
 
Ratings are not an indicator of quality, but of who watched a station and when, and are only of use to advertisers. Otherwise McDonalds would be the best burgers in the world because they claim to sell the most. Still, if you think 'more' equals 'better', it isn't my problem.

Not better. Just shows that there are a lot of people who realize how slanted the media is to the left.

Just as an example , check out ABC news's coverage of the impeachment hearings.

You would never know this if you watched them.


Support for “impeach and remove” is at 46.7% support. The lowest since the story snowballed in early October.

Opposition to the impeachment inquiry process is at 44.7%. The highest since early October. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/

— Daniel Vaughan (@dvaughanCI) November 16, 2019

59% of people in a Monmouth polls said election should be used to oust Trump, not impeachment. Only 34% said impeach now — and of that 34%, most of them could get backed down to admitting an election was better https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_110519/
 
no match? the left has almost ALL of the big newspapers and 3 propaganda machines on tv in their favor... it's like 23 to 1. maybe 2.

btw does the left EVER state anything that does not include some sort of sanctimonious BS?

No, no, no.

Talk radio and publishing is overwhelmingly right wing in the regard I mention. Bitching about newspapers is nonsense. The MSM does not push the narrative republicans "hate america, are bastards who hate everyone, want to destroy our nation and it's values" like right wing punditry has done -for decades.-

You guys take everything so personally.

Public opinion supports gay marriage and so the media reports on it; you take that as a personal attack. Public opinion supports keeping church in church and not in school; you take it as a personal attack. The media is corporatist, not leftist. I've explained this a hundred million times; you need to get it through your skull.

The media is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. They support socially liberal policy because it ensures the boradest viewer base and the most income. They support fiscally conservative monetary policy because thy're corporate entities and do not want to be taxed.

So no, there is no equivalence here. You guys started this bull**** with your books and talking heads spewing seditious garbage about the left for decades.

DECADES.
 
Oh yes, there is no doubt about the prime time news shows....this is not reporting news as it happens. It's showmanship with supreme biases to whichever party they support, albeit they all say they report news trustworthy. Could anything be further from the truth?

These are extremely wealthy individuals and corporations who own these news agencies, who spread the desires of these individuals, and if they don't, they will find themselves in the unemployment line. They read what they are told to read. Important to use common sense in watching these people, use our own minds and judge accordingly, understanding that we can be swayed easily by these pundits, whether republican or democrat, for they have agendas.

I have liken the three cable news networks to the propaganda wings of the Republican and Democratic Parties.
 
That's my characterization, but it's beautifully explained here what should concern any person of integrity that this propaganda wing of the GOP does nightly



Most all media are the enemy of the people, including Fox News. They all have their own agendas. Facts be damned.
 
The problem with the OP is that fox news is ranked the number 1 news station in the country with the most people in the what is deemed the critical
voting block. 25-55 age group.

I don't know the ratings, but you have to in my opinion add CNN's and MSNBC's audiance together and compare that to FoxNews. CNN and MSNBC are dividing up the liberals while conservatives only have Fox to go to.
 
I have liken the three cable news networks to the propaganda wings of the Republican and Democratic Parties.

So are NBC, ABC,And CBS.They are just a little more subtle about it.
 
I have liken the three cable news networks to the propaganda wings of the Republican and Democratic Parties.


I don't think anybody with a smidgen of honesty could disagree. Problem is where do we get the real news? Does anybody actually report the news without interjecting biases? I think this is a sad day for America and the world.....the propogandist have taken over, imo.
 
Most all media are the enemy of the people, including Fox News. They all have their own agendas. Facts be damned.

I disagree, the one big thing standing between tyranny and the people is a vigorous free press.

Why I do feel that way about Fox is their support of a President who is able to get 35 - 40% of the population to believe what you just said which is antithetical to a free press.

That is why THEY are the true enemy of the people, NOT because I disagree with them.
 
TV is TV, there is no real reason to distinguish any station on TV on any network or broadcast system.


You are implying, because of those numbers, that things are better for the right.

Not really considering that most liberals watch REAL news, CBS, NBC, and ABC, so if you factor in ALL THE NUMBERs, LIBERALS BLOW YOU GUYS AWAY.

the ratings say otherwise.
 
That's my characterization, but it's beautifully explained here what should concern any person of integrity that this propaganda wing of the GOP does nightly



Poor leftist babies. They whine about what they see as unfair political bias in Fox News. Give the whineybutts a stuffed animal and a safe space until they can get a grip.
 
I disagree, the one big thing standing between tyranny and the people is a vigorous free press.

Why I do feel that way about Fox is their support of a President who is able to get 35 - 40% of the population to believe what you just said which is antithetical to a free press.

That is why THEY are the true enemy of the people, NOT because I disagree with them.

You just can't stand anyone who tries to present the other side. All of the big five present biased left wing media coverage, just as Fox presents biased right wing media coverage. They are all enemies of the people.

ABC News - Media Bias/Fact Check

CBS News - Media Bias/Fact Check

NBC News - Media Bias/Fact Check

New York Times - Media Bias/Fact Check

Washington Post - Media Bias/Fact Check
 
I don't think anybody with a smidgen of honesty could disagree. Problem is where do we get the real news? Does anybody actually report the news without interjecting biases? I think this is a sad day for America and the world.....the propogandist have taken over, imo.


I listen to Fox in the day and the night. In the day, they have Chris Wallace, Bret Beier ( and used to have Shep Smith ) all of whom are straight shooters, but in the day no one is watching, but at night, Hannity, Pirro, etc, are far more intellectually dishonest than anyone on CNN and MSNBC, in my view.

As for the idea that Fox has more viewers than MSNBC and CNN, makes sense, sense most liberals are watching the big three, NBC, CBS, ABC news programs - we prefer just the news with less punditry
 
You just can't stand anyone who tries to present the other side. All of the big five present biased left wing media coverage, just as Fox presents biased right wing media coverage. They are all enemies of the people.

ABC News - Media Bias/Fact Check

CBS News - Media Bias/Fact Check

NBC News - Media Bias/Fact Check

New York Times - Media Bias/Fact Check

Washington Post - Media Bias/Fact Check

There are also quite a few right of center news journals, and they dominate AM radio, as well, but you only report on the left.

The only person that propagates the press as the enemy of the people is Trump, and the only station who adamantly support Trump is Fox


That is why Fox is the enemy of the people, and NOT because I disagree with them. But for that one point, I would not make that claim.

The only thing standing between the people and tyranny is a vigorous free press. Some in the press I agree, some I don't, but a free press, regardless of views, is the greatest friend of freedom that democracy has.


YOu seen to think anyone who disagrees with you is the enemy of the people, but no, YOU and you ilk ARE THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE FOR BELIEVING IT, but not because we disagree.

They only person planted that idea in your thought-terminating-cliché filled brain is Donald Trump.


Trump has betrayed America, and you haven't even noticed
 
the ratings say otherwise.

You missed the point, factor in CBS, NBC, ABC news programs with MSNBC, CNN, and the left blows the right away.


The point is TV is TV, and there is no logical reason to exclude the broadcast networks, where liberals tend to go.
 
You missed the point, factor in CBS, NBC, ABC news programs with MSNBC, CNN, and the left blows the right away.


The point is TV is TV, and there is no logical reason to exclude the broadcast networks, where liberals tend to go.

again the ratings state otherwise. no matter how much you want to stomp your feet.
i posted the ratings but keep stomping your feet. it won't change facts.
 
You missed the point, factor in CBS, NBC, ABC news programs with MSNBC, CNN, and the left blows the right away.


The point is TV is TV, and there is no logical reason to exclude the broadcast networks, where liberals tend to go.

again the ratings state otherwise. no matter how much you want to stomp your feet.
i posted the ratings but keep stomping your feet. it won't change facts.
 
Fox IMO is just the worst of the bunch for their editorial content. All of the News Channels are IMO for crap. My opinions of the big three as follows.
Fox:
Generally decent News Coverage when they do news coverage. Most glaring failing, covering man bites dog stories when they simply do not want to cover a real news story AT ALL. But then you get to their evening broadcasting and they are more off the rails than anybody else. Utter trash broadcasting even for editorializing and they make me wonder if their "decent" news coverage is a means to an end, providing a lead in to their nighttime whack job stuff.
CNN:
Cropping actual video and editing actual news audio in such a way as to bias it is not beyond them AT ALL. Their nighttime editorial stuff is not as strident and whacked out as Fox but it is only IMO marginally better. I would actually prefer the Fox standard as to news in simply not covering a story that they don't want to cover as opposed to cropping and editing actual news.
MSNBC:
Pretty even handed for news though I should have mentioned at the top that none of these channels engage in much news gathering. They depend on WAPO, NYT, the Trib, LAT and the wires for their news and they editorialize off of it. Sometimes they will take "news" from their networks but the channels are not news gathering. Anyway, they are not bad for news and when they screw up a news piece an actual news piece, they tend to admit it. That is more than I can say for CNN.

It is worth paying attention to how each of the big three lines up its evening hosts. I will use MSNBC as an example.

Mathews is OK sort of. He has lost his fastball and it shows. Makes sense he gets the 7PM slot or no slot at all.

Chris Hays is next and he is decent if not a bit lacking in an actual knowledge base to work from. He is typical of the younger News Channel host. He is topical, attractive, urban, not too bright. Must have missed some college classes.

Maddow though much maligned in these pages is pretty sharp. She is an excellent Columnist able to cut a through-line through the dots AND do it such that it is understandable to her audience. She is a nighttime News Channel gem. She does sometimes go off on something she should not go off on and that is where she deserves criticism. Its rare though. She is a logical thinker which is what allows her to take a bunch of dots gathered by reporters, throw them on her desk and find the through-line. Very impressed with the way her mind works.

Lawrence O'Donnell to me is a disaster. The Left's and MSNBC's version of Hannity. That is all I got on O'Donnell. If it were my decision to make I would either move or fire O'Donnell.

Brian Williams deserves a better slot unless MSNBC thinks it vitally important that they have a steady hand to close out the news cycle going from 11 to 12 midnight. If that is what they were shooting for in Williams that is what they have.


O'Donnell is the left's counterbalance to Hannity, but he's essentially correct, though he does do things that are over the top at times, but nothing like Hannity does.

I don't see O'Donnell spewing conspiracy theories like Uranium One, Seth Rich murder , etc that Hannity does.

The best shows on MSNBC are many, the best shows on Fox are only in the daytime.

Williams show is a summary of the news of the day show, Maddow is "get-into-the-weeds" backstories behind the news stories, show.
 
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