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Noel Ignatiev passed away on Nov, 9 , at the age of 78.

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Well the skeksis may not be immortal, they're anti-white hated lives on through their sudo intellectual teachings, thus making them eternal.

Noel Ignatiev, white hating bigot and communist **** stirrer, died on Nov, 9 in Tucson Arizona at the age of 78. He was best known for popularizing the idea of "white privilege", as it's known today. He argues that Whiteness is a social construct and “Without the privileges attached to it, the white race would not exist, and white skin would have no more social significance than big feet”. In short, he wants people to trade(what he considers to be) a scientific based European social construct for a ideological based jewish social construct...Oy vey.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/14/books/noel-ignatiev-dead.html

https://archive.is/ZkMrc

When interviewers would ask why he, a white man, was seeming to argue for canceling his own race, he would rebel at the very label.

“That’s not a term I like to have applied to myself,” he told CNN in 2002. “I want to get rid of it, because I think that the price that it extracts from us is greater than the benefit it brings.”
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His convoluted notion of whiteness, allowed him (and other mentally incompetent leftist) to pass himself off as a "white man", that benefited from white privilege. This, in fact, couldn't be further from the truth.

Noel Ignatiev’s Long Fight Against Whiteness | The New Yorker

In the eighties, the economy began to shift. Automation took root, and plants began laying off workers. Contemplating the large, industrial workforces of prior decades, Ignatiev had been able to imagine workers forming councils, seizing the means of production, and deposing their bosses. But, as factories emptied out, he no longer knew where to look. In his forties, he, too, was laid off. He decided to go back to school. A friend from S.T.O. who had been admitted to Harvard’s Graduate School of Education persuaded the administration to admit Ignatiev, despite the fact that he lacked a bachelor’s degree. Ignatiev enrolled, then transferred to the history department, where he worked toward his doctorate.
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Despite lacking the credentials, he was able to become a student at one of the most prestigious university in the world. This was due to cronyism and his status as an ethnic minority.

He literally benefited from his ethnic privilege, yet he devoted his life to the abolishment of "white privilege"... Like most commie filth, he was a moron and a giant hypocrite. The world is a much better place without him.

At least Epstein will be able to keep him company...
 
1. I had never heard of the gentleman until I read this thread.

2. Thanks for teaching me who coined the "White privilege" idea.

3. In any case, if his theory had merit in the past, it no longer does.

a. In 2019, most Americans (at least in private) admit that the word "privilege" now belongs to other groups, such as women and people of color.

4. Secretary Clinton tried to win in 2016 by using this phrase, but it did not work for her in some key states, where enough people knew how silly the phrase is in this fast-changing country.
 
TheParser said:
1. I had never heard of the gentleman until I read this thread.

2. Thanks for teaching me who coined the "White privilege" idea.

3. In any case, if his theory had merit in the past, it no longer does.

a. In 2019, most Americans (at least in private) admit that the word "privilege" now belongs to other groups, such as women and people of color.

4. Secretary Clinton tried to win in 2016 by using this phrase, but it did not work for her in some key states, where enough people knew how silly the phrase is in this fast-changing country.
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He didn't. Peggy McIntosh coined the phrase "White privilege".
 
Wha'?

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CitizenBasehead said:
Well the skeksis may not be immortal, they're anti-white hated lives on through their sudo intellectual teachings, thus making them eternal.

Noel Ignatiev, white hating bigot and communist **** stirrer, died on Nov, 9 in Tucson Arizona at the age of 78. He was best known for popularizing the idea of "white privilege", as it's known today. He argues that Whiteness is a social construct and “Without the privileges attached to it, the white race would not exist, and white skin would have no more social significance than big feet”. In short, he wants people to trade(what he considers to be) a scientific based European social construct for a ideological based jewish social construct...Oy vey.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/14/books/noel-ignatiev-dead.html

https://archive.is/ZkMrc



His convoluted notion of whiteness, allowed him (and other mentally incompetent leftist) to pass himself off as a "white man", that benefited from white privilege. This, in fact, couldn't be further from the truth.

Noel Ignatiev’s Long Fight Against Whiteness | The New Yorker



Despite lacking the credentials, he was able to become a student at one of the most prestigious university in the world. This was due to cronyism and his status as an ethnic minority.

He literally benefited from his ethnic privilege, yet he devoted his life to the abolishment of "white privilege"... Like most commie filth, he was a moron and a giant hypocrite. The world is a much better place without him.

At least Epstein will be able to keep him company...
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Funny how some folks carry around anger over stupid ****.
 
Some angry white boys in this thread.

Yeesh.
 
TheParser said:
1. I had never heard of the gentleman until I read this thread.
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He's a nobody that's somewhat ignored by the Media. He gives jewish professors a bad name.

2. Thanks for teaching me who coined the "White privilege" idea.
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Well it's him and Ted Allen that are given credit for it.

from NYT;
In 1967 he and Ted Allen wrote an influential, much-reproduced paper, “The White Blindspot,” which laid out many of the ideas that Dr. Ignatiev would explore more fully in the 1990s.
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a. In 2019, most Americans (at least in private) admit that the word "privilege" now belongs to other groups, such as women and people of color.
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And a persecuted ethnic group.

Drawdown said:
He didn't. Peggy McIntosh coined the phrase "White privilege".
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I said "notion" and Parser said "idea". Anyway she didn't come up with the idea of "White privilege".
 
Excast said:
Some angry white boys in this thread.

Yeesh.
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I know critical thinking isn't the lefts forte but that's like saying every time a POC post something critical about trump, they're angry.
 
“How the Irish Became White” is an excellent book. Very interesting and insightful.

“Whiteness is not a culture. There is Irish culture and Italian culture and American culture - the latter, as Albert Murray pointed out, a mixture of the Yankee, the Indian, and the Negro (with a pinch of ethnic salt); there is youth culture and drug culture and queer culture; but there is no such thing as white culture. Whiteness has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with social position. It is nothing but a reflection of privilege, and exists for no reason other than to defend it. Without the privileges attached to it, the white race would not exist, and the white skin would have no more social significance than big feet.”
― Noel Ignatiev, Race Traitor
 
j brown's body said:
“How the Irish Became White” is an excellent book. Very interesting and insightful.
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When he says white, he means his concept of "Whiteness".

“Whiteness is not a culture. There is Irish culture and Italian culture and American culture - the latter, as Albert Murray pointed out, a mixture of the Yankee, the Indian, and the Negro (with a pinch of ethnic salt); there is youth culture and drug culture and queer culture; but there is no such thing as white culture. Whiteness has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with social position. It is nothing but a reflection of privilege, and exists for no reason other than to defend it. Without the privileges attached to it, the white race would not exist, and the white skin would have no more social significance than big feet.”
― Noel Ignatiev, Race Traitor
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A jewish man saying there's a drug culture and queer culture:lamo What's next, a bunch of jewish "" intellectuals"", writers and media producers coming out and saying they helped promote these cultures?

Also he can't be a race traitor, he's not White he's jewish. Jewish people never considers themselves to be white until self hating commies started spreading their Ideology and tried to subvert the proletariats.
 
CitizenBasehead said:
He's a nobody that's somewhat ignored by the Media. He gives jewish professors a bad name.



Well it's him and Ted Allen that are given credit for it.






And a persecuted ethnic group.



I said "notion" and Parser said "idea". Anyway she didn't come up with the idea of "White privilege".
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I didn't say she came up with the idea. I said she coined the phrase. She coined the phrase before Ignatiev had even finished grad school.
 
Drawdown said:
I didn't say she came up with the idea. I said she coined the phrase. She coined the phrase before Ignatiev had even finished grad school.
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Noel Ignatiev and Ted Allen are credited with starting the Idea, by co-publishing a paper in the 60's. Peggy McIntosh wrote her paper in the 80's.

Noel went to the University of Pennsylvania when he was younger and dropped out, he went in 84, got his masters in 85 and PHD in 94.

You seem to me like you're being a bit disingenuous.
 
CitizenBasehead said:
Noel Ignatiev and Ted Allen are credited with starting the Idea, by co-publishing a paper in the 60's. Peggy McIntosh wrote her paper in the 80's.

Noel went to the University of Pennsylvania when he was younger and dropped out, he went in 84, got his masters in 85 and PHD in 94.

You seem to me like you're being a bit disingenuous.
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When Noel Ignatiev wrote the pamphlet you disingenuously put forth as a paper, the issue was segregation not the issue as it is presented today and he referred to it as white skin privilege.
 
CitizenBasehead said:
I know and you're projecting. I've obviously making fun of the guy and you always appear to be butthurt.
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I’ve read through a number of your postings. You weren’t just “making fun of the guy”. This thread is typical of your long running butthurt, persecution victim theme.
 
j brown's body said:
“How the Irish Became White” is an excellent book. Very interesting and insightful.

“Whiteness is not a culture. There is Irish culture and Italian culture and American culture - the latter, as Albert Murray pointed out, a mixture of the Yankee, the Indian, and the Negro (with a pinch of ethnic salt); there is youth culture and drug culture and queer culture; but there is no such thing as white culture. Whiteness has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with social position. It is nothing but a reflection of privilege, and exists for no reason other than to defend it. Without the privileges attached to it, the white race would not exist, and the white skin would have no more social significance than big feet.”
― Noel Ignatiev, Race Traitor
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OK....what if we call it European Culture, which has thousands of years of history. Would that satisfy the Communist Professor and his fans?
 
Drawdown said:
When Noel Ignatiev wrote the pamphlet you disingenuously put forth as a paper, the issue was segregation not the issue as it is presented today and he referred to it as white skin privilege.
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The pamphlet was published in 1975, twenty years after the south was forced to desegregate. By that time, the only region of the country still fighting attempts at desegregation was the Northeast, where Noel Ignatiev's ethnicity controlled much of the spheres of power.
 
Drawdown said:
When Noel Ignatiev wrote the pamphlet you disingenuously put forth as a paper,
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Yes, you're right. I was mistaken.

the issue was segregation not the issue as it is presented today and he referred to it as white skin privilege.
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The context in which he uses the phrase "White skin privilege" is the same that "White privilege" is used today.

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-1/whiteblindspot.pdf

But--they have more to lose than their chains; they have also to "lose" their white-skin privileges, the perquisites that separate them from the rest of the working class, that act as the material base for the split in the ranks of labor.
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In 1965, drawing from that insight, and inspired by the civil rights movement, Theodore W. Allen began a 40-year analysis of "white skin privilege", "white race" privilege, and "white" privilege in a call he drafted for a "John Brown Commemoration Committee" that urged "White Americans who want government of the people" and "by the people" to "begin by first repudiating their white skin privileges".[25] The pamphlet, "White Blindspot", containing one essay by Allen and one by historian Noel Ignatiev, was published in the late 1960s. It focused on the struggle against "white skin privilege" and significantly influenced the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and sectors of the New Left. By June 15, 1969, the New York Times was reporting that the National Office of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was calling "for an all-out fight against 'white skin privileges'".[26] From 1974 to 1975, Allen extended his analysis to the colonial period, leading to the publication of "Class Struggle and the Origin of Racial Slavery: The Invention of the White Race,"[27] (1975) which ultimately grew into his two-volume "The Invention of the White Race" in 1994 and 1997.[28
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White privilege - Wikipedia
 
Excast said:
Some angry white boys in this thread.

Yeesh.
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Did you just assume the race of the OP? Race is a social construct. The white race doesn't even exist. Let's hate white people who refuse to volunteer to be scapegoats for all the evil in the world.

See how utterly confusing and stupid your views are?
 
truthatallcost said:
OK....what if we call it European Culture, which has thousands of years of history. Would that satisfy the Communist Professor and his fans?
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Probably not. He would say it was based off of antiquated notions of white supremacy and sudo-scientific ideas of racial differences between groups of people and this idea him and a commie butt goy pulled out of their asses, is much superior:lamo
 
CitizenBasehead said:
Yes, you're right. I was mistaken.

The context in which he uses the phrase "White skin privilege" is the same that "White privilege" is used today.

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-1/whiteblindspot.pdf

White privilege - Wikipedia
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A little background on Theodore Allen, who with Noel Ignatiev co-published the pamphlet the "White Blindspot" in 65.

Theodore W. Allen - Wikipedia

In the 1940s Allen moved to (((New York City))), a center for labor activism and intellectual work. He did industrial economic research at the (((Labor Research Association))), based in the city. He taught economics at the Jefferson School of (((Social Science))), founded in (((New York))) by the (((Communist Party))) in 1944. Allen taught there into the 1950s, when the school closed, due to declining membership in the party and pressure from scrutiny by the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) of the United States House of Representatives, which was conducting hearings during the McCarthy era.
Allen also taught math at the (((Crown Heights Yeshiva))) in (((Brooklyn))), where he lived,:lamo and the Grace Church School in New York.[2] During his more than six decades in (((New York))), Allen had a variety of jobs, from factory worker to retail clerk, mechanical design draftsman, postal mail handler (and member of the Local of the National Postal Mail Handlers Union), and librarian at the (((Brooklyn))) Public Library.[2]

The Labor Research Association and Jefferson School of Social Science were both (((communist party))) fronts. The fact, that he taught at a Yeshiva is pretty funny.
 
CitizenBasehead said:
Probably not. He would say it was based off of antiquated notions of white supremacy and sudo-scientific ideas of racial differences between groups of people and this idea him and a commie butt goy pulled out of their asses, is much superior:lamo
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:lol: That made me laugh out loud.


Several posters to the Europe sub forum have told me that there's no such thing as European culture. These same people would argue that there is a unifying Jewish culture, based upon being victimoized for a millenia by Europeans (notice Europeans are lumped together for the purpose of assigning blame, yet they can't be lumped together for the purpose of identifying European culture). They're loons on the verge of declaring white people to be less than human, judging by the path they're on.

To top it all off, the majority of Jews living today trace their DNA to Europe, which means they're a European people with a distinct culture, which is something that isn't supposed to exist.
 
truthatallcost said:
~........................... (notice Europeans are lumped together for the purpose of assigning blame, yet they can't be lumped together for the purpose of identifying European culture). . ..........~
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That this would surprise you surprises practically nobody else.

Just as little as the fact that a California Jew hater has that intellectual deficiency in common with a, say, Egyptian Jew hater, while having practically no other points of cultural commonality. Demonstrating in that same instance (once again) that stupidity surpasses all borders, be those geographical or cultural.

Speaking of which, another demonstration here
To top it all off, the majority of Jews living today trace their DNA to Europe, which means they're a European people with a distinct culture, which is something that isn't supposed to exist.
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Now if I could take you seriously (as in holding you to be a serious poster rather than one constantly peddling his White Supremacist anti-semitic drivel), I'd discuss paternal DNA compared to maternal one.

But seeing how it's you, I won't waste my time (or anybody else's) in affording you any such courtesy.
 
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