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Yovanovitch makes it clear: Trump put his personal interests above the U.S.

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Yovanovitch makes it clear: Trump put his personal interests above the U.S.

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Former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie L. Yovanovich.

11/15/19
PRESIDENT TRUMP and his defenders have been arguing, weakly, that his actions toward Ukraine, including demands for the investigation of his political opponents, were somehow consistent with U.S. national interests. There is no way to make that case about his treatment of Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. In compelling testimony during the House’s impeachment inquiry on Friday, she described how the president’s firing of her was orchestrated by corrupt Ukrainian actors whom the United States had been trying to neutralize — and how that reversal damaged U.S. diplomacy around the world. No wonder, then, that Mr. Trump, who has never offered a reason for yanking Ms. Yovanovitch, took to Twitter to abuse her, claiming that “everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad.” Beyond the absurdity of suggesting that Ms. Yovanovitch somehow brought about the troubles of Somalia or Uzbekistan, Mr. Trump was attacking a still-serving federal government employee even as she testified to his wrongdoing. Democrats were right to suggest this amounted to witness intimidation. The truth is that Ms. Yovanovitch was having an impact in Kyiv. As other witnesses have testified, she was aggressive in pushing the Ukrainian government to fulfill its promises to tackle corruption, something it did not do. In particular, she tangled with Yuriy Lutsenko, the general prosecutor. Mr. Lutsenko responded by launching a smear campaign against her, in conjunction with two shady U.S. businessmen and Mr. Trump’s private lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani. Mr. Lutsenko won Mr. Giuliani over with false claims about Joe Biden. The businessmen, who had been seeking Ms. Yovanovitch’s ouster since 2018, got Mr. Trump’s ear by making a large contribution to a PAC supporting him.

As Ms. Yovanovitch put it, “individuals, who apparently felt stymied by our efforts to promote stated U.S. policy against corruption . . . were able to successfully conduct a campaign of disinformation against a sitting ambassador, using unofficial back channels. . . . They shared baseless allegations with the president and convinced him to remove his ambassador, despite the fact that the State Department fully understood that the allegations were false and the sources highly suspect.” Republicans tried to argue that Ms. Yovanovitch’s story had nothing to do with Mr. Trump’s campaign to have Ukraine launch political investigations. But Mr. Giuliani clearly saw Ms. Yovanovitch as an obstacle to his effort to orchestrate a probe of Mr. Biden. “How could our system fail like this?” the ambassador asked. “How is it that foreign corrupt interests could manipulate our government?” The answer lies with a president who put his personal interests — and those of corrupt Ukrainians — above those of the United States.

Madame Ambassador Marie Yovanovich served the Unites States with honor and distinction during her 33 years of State Department service.

This is anathema to that traitorous self-serving criminal in the White House who put his own personal interests ahead of the best interests of the United States. Trump even attacked her as she was testifying.


Mike Pompeo also comes across as the partisan toady that he is.

Ambassador Yovanovitch:

Among the most senior diplomats at @StateDept
Served our country for 33 years
Appointed by presidents of both parties

Yet the Pompeo State Dept wouldn't defend her against false accusations, because they were concerned about a tweet from the President. WTF?
 
Nobody at all should be shocked by this. The man has spent his entire life putting his own interests ahead of everything else.

Ahead of the employees at his businesses.
Ahead of the contractors he bilked.
Ahead of the women he preyed on.
Ahead of the wives he cheated on and the family he shamed.

The real question is, why did conservative America thing that one of the most selfish, egotistical individuals in the country was suddenly going to morph into something greater?
 
The new approach to defending Trump is just to admit that's he's a corrupt, self-serving, deranged conspiracy theorist who abuses the levers of government to get what he wants. Rick Santorum, a Trump supporter, more or less admitted this on CNN.
 
Stewart: "I would now feel compelled to ask you, Madam Ambassador, as you sit here before us, very simply and directly, do you have any information regarding the president of the United States accepting any bribes?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

Stewart: "Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the United States has been involved with at all?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

And there you have it.
 
No politician has ever done that. :lamo
 
No politician has ever done that. :lamo

I mean, I wouldn't say no politicians.

Holding up promised aid in order to score political points seems to be a growing trend among conservative superstars.
 
Stewart: "I would now feel compelled to ask you, Madam Ambassador, as you sit here before us, very simply and directly, do you have any information regarding the president of the United States accepting any bribes?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

Stewart: "Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the United States has been involved with at all?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

And there you have it.

Her testimony added nothing to the impeachment case which is why every thread here is about the tweets and how mean Trump was to reassign her. If dems actually had a case against Trump they wouldnt have wasted their time calling this woman.
 
Stewart: "I would now feel compelled to ask you, Madam Ambassador, as you sit here before us, very simply and directly, do you have any information regarding the president of the United States accepting any bribes?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

Stewart: "Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the United States has been involved with at all?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

And there you have it.


Yes, there is an example of one of the oldest courtroom cheap tricks in the book. A witness is not there to determine if a crime has been committed, they are they to give testimony in regards to their experiences and interactions - PERIOD.

Of course ignorance of that obvious fact is probably why such a cheap trick works so well in Trumpland.
 
Her testimony added nothing to the impeachment case which is why every thread here is about the tweets and how mean Trump was to reassign her. If dems actually had a case against Trump they wouldnt have wasted their time calling this woman.

Keep thinking that. The chairs on lido deck need rearranging, maybe you can lend a hand.
 
Her testimony added nothing to the impeachment case which is why every thread here is about the tweets and how mean Trump was to reassign her. If dems actually had a case against Trump they wouldnt have wasted their time calling this woman.

Right. Or Taylor, for that matter. What this really comes down to is an attack on the right of any president to conduct foreign policy. It's not specific to Trump, but I expect the left would enthusiastically support that constitutional right if their preferred candidate were in office. It's what the democrats have become. It ain't pretty.
 
The new approach to defending Trump is just to admit that's he's a corrupt, self-serving, deranged conspiracy theorist who abuses the levers of government to get what he wants. Rick Santorum, a Trump supporter, more or less admitted this on CNN.

They are spamming excuses all over the place now. I saw that Trump couldn't be guilty of intent because he's not smart enough for intent. Any and everything is about to be thrown at the wall to protect trump.
 
Keep thinking that. The chairs on lido deck need rearranging, maybe you can lend a hand.

Oh, you think she added something to impeachment? What was it?
 
Her testimony added nothing to the impeachment case which is why every thread here is about the tweets and how mean Trump was to reassign her. If dems actually had a case against Trump they wouldnt have wasted their time calling this woman.

For someone whose testimony "added nothing", there sure is a concerted effort by trumpanzees to trash her testimony. :lol:
 
Her testimony added nothing to the impeachment case which is why every thread here is about the tweets and how mean Trump was to reassign her. If dems actually had a case against Trump they wouldnt have wasted their time calling this woman.

Her testimony, which you obviously didn't listen to, clearly demonstrates how she was removed, under false pretenses and w/no notice, because she wouldn't play ball with Fruity G's corrupt plans.

Why do you insist on talking about things you have no knowledge of?
 
Stewart: "I would now feel compelled to ask you, Madam Ambassador, as you sit here before us, very simply and directly, do you have any information regarding the president of the United States accepting any bribes?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

Stewart: "Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the United States has been involved with at all?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

And there you have it.

Yes. Yovanovitch is a witness who has testified to the self-serving nature, ineptitude, stupidity, and corruption of Donald Trump, but she did not personally witness any of his crimes. For that, we'll have to see what the other witnesses say.
 
This is rather amusing. Trump asks Zelensky to look into corruption but, at the same time, is supposed to have allowed those who wanted to "stymie our efforts" against corruption, to do so. The Dems need to get their convoluted story straight. Again, the whispering campaign, to the extent one existed, and the subsequent firing of Yavanovitch, have NOTHING to do with impeachment. It's a sideshow ginned up by Dems who know they are failing on all fronts. Yavanovitch provided NO substantive information related to anything concerning quid pro quos, bribery or any of the other nonsense Schiff has claimed. She in fact, specifically answered no when asked if she had any knowledge of them.
 
Yes, there is an example of one of the oldest courtroom cheap tricks in the book. A witness is not there to determine if a crime has been committed, they are they to give testimony in regards to their experiences and interactions - PERIOD.

Of course ignorance of that obvious fact is probably why such a cheap trick works so well in Trumpland.

Which in this case have nothing whatever to do with the issue at hand. Yovanovitch was recalled. Big deal. She claims she was there to fight corruption, but I've yet to hear of even a single instance of her doing that. Not one. Maybe you can share one with us.
 
Her testimony, which you obviously didn't listen to, clearly demonstrates how she was removed, under false pretenses and w/no notice, because she wouldn't play ball with Fruity G's corrupt plans.

Why do you insist on talking about things you have no knowledge of?

Fruity G? :lol:
 
Fruity G? :lol:

I know some people who actually know him and worked on his mayoral campaign back in the day. They simply don't know what has happened to him or how he could have become what he's become. They're dumbfounded.
 
Yes. Yovanovitch is a witness who has testified to the self-serving nature, ineptitude, stupidity, and corruption of Donald Trump, but she did not personally witness any of his crimes. For that, we'll have to see what the other witnesses say.

I'm not interested in Yovanovitch's opinions regarding Trump. She was appointed by Obama. I don't expect her to "like" Trump. Thst has nothing whatever to do with the job she was appointed to perform. She had the option to resign at any time.
 
Yes, there is an example of one of the oldest courtroom cheap tricks in the book. A witness is not there to determine if a crime has been committed, they are they to give testimony in regards to their experiences and interactions - PERIOD.

Of course ignorance of that obvious fact is probably why such a cheap trick works so well in Trumpland.

It's what Trumplegangers call "logic".

Like when Taylor and Kent were asked about naming the impeachable crime their silent delay being interpreted as "no impeachable behavior".

They present the silence as evidence and ignore Kent's answer 'that's not our job, it's yours'.
 
Yovanovitch makes it clear: Trump put his personal interests above the U.S.

WYRUBDQH3QI6VLRIPUMJQAJIME.jpg

Former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie L. Yovanovich.



Madame Ambassador Marie Yovanovich served the Unites States with honor and distinction during her 33 years of State Department service.

This is anathema to that traitorous self-serving criminal in the White House who put his own personal interests ahead of the best interests of the United States. Trump even attacked her as she was testifying.


Mike Pompeo also comes across as the partisan toady that he is.

Ambassador Yovanovitch:

Among the most senior diplomats at @StateDept
Served our country for 33 years
Appointed by presidents of both parties

Yet the Pompeo State Dept wouldn't defend her against false accusations, because they were concerned about a tweet from the President. WTF?

It's clear many of the posters here have not bothered to read this.
 
Yovanovitch makes it clear: Trump put his personal interests above the U.S.

WYRUBDQH3QI6VLRIPUMJQAJIME.jpg

Former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie L. Yovanovich.



Madame Ambassador Marie Yovanovich served the Unites States with honor and distinction during her 33 years of State Department service.

This is anathema to that traitorous self-serving criminal in the White House who put his own personal interests ahead of the best interests of the United States. Trump even attacked her as she was testifying.


Mike Pompeo also comes across as the partisan toady that he is.

Ambassador Yovanovitch:

Among the most senior diplomats at @StateDept
Served our country for 33 years
Appointed by presidents of both parties

Yet the Pompeo State Dept wouldn't defend her against false accusations, because they were concerned about a tweet from the President. WTF?
More fan fiction from the left

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It's what Trumplegangers call "logic".

Like when Taylor and Kent were asked about naming the impeachable crime their silent delay being interpreted as "no impeachable behavior".

They present the silence as evidence and ignore Kent's answer 'that's not our job, it's yours'.

Indeed.
 
I'm not interested in Yovanovitch's opinions regarding Trump. She was appointed by Obama. I don't expect her to "like" Trump. Thst has nothing whatever to do with the job she was appointed to perform. She had the option to resign at any time.

1) She worked for 4 Republican Presidents starting with Reagan
2) Nobody in the State Dept contested her credentials as an effective fighter against corruption and I would simply suggest that their opinion is more reliable than anything posters here are going to come up with
3) Rudy and his gang had been trying to have her recalled since 2018. They had little time left to pull off their scam for Fat Donald and for themselves by 2019. They finally torpedoed her. She was recalled the day Zalinsky was inaugurated. What they didn't expect was that Pompeo would appoint Taylor, a tough experienced Charge d' Affairs candidate that immediately went into the Acting Ambassador role. Taylor came up to speed faster than drunken Rudy anticipated and the gig was up. I suspect Fat Donald is not happy with Pompeo. Suddenly Taylor started making noise, Sondland could not keep his BIG MOUTH SHUT (what an idiot) and Igor and Lev were just a little too "gamey" for their own good. Nice choice of partners Don and Rudy. Congress started to make noise about the delay in sending the Military Aid and there were already OMB Officers nervous because they knew holding the funds was illegal. So the funds had to be released.

Poor DonDon. Apparently he did not know that if he had held on for two more days, Zalinsky would have given him his public announcement of Investigations on CNN no less. Dumbass DonDon....lost his nerve and premature ejaculated.....probably something Melania knows something about.
 
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