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it seems Yavonovich perjured herself yesterday

Cardinal said:
I think that I’m uninterested in this new front you’re trying to open up. I’ll leave you to your deep state paranoia, and accept your acknowledgment that Yavanovich didn’t contradict yourself.
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I don't blame you. Your analysis was stillborn. You just didn't realize it. That happens ... I guess.
 
bubbabgone said:
I don't blame you. Your analysis was stillborn. You just didn't realize it. That happens ... I guess.
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From paranoia over a “deep state” to word salads. Please devolve further.
 
bubbabgone said:
You still here?
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You know, all you had to say was, “Thanks for the explanation, Cardinal. I see now that Yavanovich did not actually contradict yourself. You rock!”
 
Cardinal said:
You know, all you had to say was, “Thanks for the explanation, Cardinal. I see now that Yavanovich did not actually contradict yourself. You rock!”
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But that would contradict the illogical thug-like posting persona.
 
Cardinal said:
You know, all you had to say was, “Thanks for the explanation, Cardinal. I see now that Yavanovich did not actually contradict yourself. You rock!”
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Trying to suggest the State Dept. is not part of an Administration is certainly unique but sad to say, it's wrong.
Look ... you messed up, tried to run from it, and I guess you still intend do.
Nothing I can do about it.
 
Cardinal said:
You know, all you had to say was, “Thanks for the explanation, Cardinal. I see now that Yavanovich did not actually contradict yourself. You rock!”
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If Trump didn't appoint her and she did't take an oath of personal loyalty to him and him alone, she's "deep state."

That lady that's been working for the SSA for 30 years? Deep state
 
Yesterday the ambassador said numerous times all ambassadors serve at the pleasure at the president. At anytime the president can recall them without cause or reason.
My question to those attacking this womans character is why didn't the the president just recall her? Why was it necessary to besmirch Yavanovich's character & career?
At any point Trump could have recalled the entire envoy to the Ukraine and inserted whoever he wanted. Why didn't he?
This is like an episode of dumb criminals. If he had recalled the entire envoy. Let Rudy be the special envoy with his gang of thugs, possibly none of this would be happening to him.
Instead they chose to put someone's life in danger for no good reason.

I remember when we were a country that tried to get US Citizens out of jail, bring them home and if they did anything illegal we dealt with them....now we want other countries to prosecute our citizens?
Man has our code of honor gone in the ****ter.
 
Perjured herself and pissed herself I bet. Never seen such vitriol from a fired employee before she must have loved her job.
 
Hypothetical said:
that because the real dumbass who is running this circus is desperate to control the venue, otherwise they can't keep their witnesses stories straight.
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I suggest you start letting your angst out at the cons you defend every day since these rules were put in place by the GOP in 2015.
 
Cardinal said:
You know, all you had to say was, “Thanks for the explanation, Cardinal. I see now that Yavanovich did not actually contradict yourself. You rock!”
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That wouldn't take logic.
That would take a full deprogramming.
 
Middle_Ground said:
Yesterday the ambassador said numerous times all ambassadors serve at the pleasure at the president. At anytime the president can recall them without cause or reason.
My question to those attacking this womans character is why didn't the the president just recall her? Why was it necessary to besmirch Yavanovich's character & career?
At any point Trump could have recalled the entire envoy to the Ukraine and inserted whoever he wanted. Why didn't he?
This is like an episode of dumb criminals. If he had recalled the entire envoy. Let Rudy be the special envoy with his gang of thugs, possibly none of this would be happening to him.
Instead they chose to put someone's life in danger for no good reason.

I remember when we were a country that tried to get US Citizens out of jail, bring them home and if they did anything illegal we dealt with them....now we want other countries to prosecute our citizens?
Man has our code of honor gone in the ****ter.
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Trump only thinks in corrupt terms, so it never occurred to him that he could just recall her without inventing a false pretense.
 
ocean515 said:
If she was dedicated to the US, she would understand who is responsible for defining the job she was hired to do.

Were all the Ambassadors Obama fired in 2008 victims?
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Did Obama smear any of them?
 
ocean515 said:
Yes. Everyone he fired.
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I would ask you how, but we all know you don’t have a specific answer to that, just as you can’t say how, exactly, that Yavanovich was working at cross purposes with Trump’s foreign policy.

In fact, I’m on safe ground when I say that you don’t know anything at all. You came into this thread armed with vague talking points and nothing else.
 
Cardinal said:
I would ask you how, but we all know you don’t have a specific answer to that, just as you can’t say how, exactly, that Yavanovich was working at cross purposes with Trump’s foreign policy.

In fact, I’m on safe ground when I say that you don’t know anything at all. You came into this thread armed with vague talking points and nothing else.
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He's a joke of a poster at this time.
 
Cardinal said:
I would ask you how, but we all know you don’t have a specific answer to that, just as you can’t say how, exactly, that Yavanovich was working at cross purposes with Trump’s foreign policy.

In fact, I’m on safe ground when I say that you don’t know anything at all. You came into this thread armed with vague talking points and nothing else.
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Is snark and personal attack all you have?

Why did Obama fire everyone?

Were they doing a bad job? Everyone? Well, that's a damaging claim.

Did he not believe they could do the job he wanted them to do? Well, that's damaging and presumptuous.

When you fire someone, is that considered a positive thing, or a negative thing?

BTW. Let me know if all you are going to do is personally attack. If that's your game, ok. I'll just make sure never to waste time with you.
 
ocean515 said:
Is snark and personal attack all you have?

Why did Obama fire everyone?
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You introduced Obama into this thread. Research the issue and tell us yourself.

Still waiting on how Yavanovich was working at cross purposes with Trump's foreign policy. And we'll all be waiting until the sun goes cold, because you don't know.
 
Cardinal said:
You introduced Obama into this thread. Research the issue and tell us yourself.

Still waiting on how Yavanovich was working at cross purposes with Trump's foreign policy. And we'll all be waiting until the sun goes cold, because you don't know.
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Just did.

The cross purposes have been described in her own words during testimony in Schiff's bunker, which can be read by the released transcripts.

You should read the transcripts of her testimony in Schiff's bunker.

Let me know when you have, and we can discuss it.
 
HumblePi said:
The right is just dying to discredit and slam this poor woman and all she's guilty of is being dedicated to this country. Republicans are a nasty, vile bunch.
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^---desperate flailing in an attempt to cover up a failed witness that possibly just committed a crime during her failed testimony.
 
ocean515 said:
Just did.

The cross purposes have been described in her own words during testimony in Schiff's bunker, which can be read by the released transcripts.
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Say it. Tell us those cross purposes. You can't.
 
Fishking said:
^---desperate flailing in an attempt to cover up a failed witness that possibly just committed a crime during her failed testimony.
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^---obvious projection
 
Fishking said:
^---desperate flailing in an attempt to cover up a failed witness that possibly just committed a crime during her failed testimony.
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Has anybody beyond referred her for criminal prosecution? I'll give you a hint: the answer is no.
 
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