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GOP dogs won’t hunt

jnug said:
Oh yea....That idea sending the G7 to bedbug village was all in the National Interest. Ah-huh.
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Yes...it was. It would have saved the taxpayers millions.

Seems the only time the Trump haters like free stuff is when they can force someone to give it.
 
calamity said:
Republicans desperately try painting Trump’s Ukraine policy as normal. It won’t work.

The GOP dogs that won’t hunt



I guess they can always fall back on "triple hearsay." :)
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From the OP’s article link:

“Taylor’s testimony on this point is third-hand”

One should also consider the source of the opinion piece, the WP.

I didn’t tune in for the whole hearing but did come away with how important the Ukraine seemed to be for the two testifying. They suggested that any interruption with military type aid would be catastrophic. Let’s look back a few years to the last administrations support for the Ukraine, they didn’t supply them with any military type aid only blankets and basic first aid supplies over eight years. In fact, the whole democratic congress voted against aid other than the token humanitarian offering. Where was the outrage with these two or the hypocritical liberals over those eight year?

I do get a chuckle out of the quid pro quo narrative, Suggesting that foreign aid doesn’t come with conditions/strings is patently dishonest. In the case of Ukraine, one of the conditions was investigating corruption, and that would include Burisma holdings the gas company with a horrid record of corruption that Hunter Biden was involved with.
 
HumblePi said:
Where is the 'transparency' that Trump demands? Why is he forbidding testimonies and defying Congress by doing so? The answer is clear. It's because their testimonies are first hand and damaging as all Hell.
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If the Democrats were truly interested in transparency they should have thought about giving the Republicans unilateral power to issue subpoenas. The entire process set up by the Dems has been tainted from the beginning.
 
calamity said:
Republicans desperately try painting Trump’s Ukraine policy as normal. It won’t work.

The GOP dogs that won’t hunt



I guess they can always fall back on "triple hearsay." :)
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It is “normal”.

Trump sets foreign policy.

End of story.

I suggest you go back to the drawing board with Goebbels-WaPO after this epic failure.
 
Praxas said:
It's really sad because we know this would not be accepted behavior to Republicans if Obama was doing even 1/25th of what Trump has done.

Graham is the biggest hypocrite of all in this impeachment given his comments he gave about Bill Clinton's impeachment.
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Thing is Obama did.

This is an all in effort to protect him and those still embedded.

How dare Trump ask about corruption? Had he hired Perkins Coie and paid millions for made up dirt and then used it to justify wire taps on his political opponent by weaponized federal agencies that would be ok; but to ask for the truth?



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Eriech said:
Thing is Obama did.

This is an all in effort to protect him and those still embedded.

How dare Trump ask about corruption? Had he hired Perkins Coie and paid millions for made up dirt and then used it to justify wire taps on his political opponent by weaponized federal agencies that would be ok; but to ask for the truth?

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I'm sorry please point to the numerous times that Obama openly asked a foreign country on national television to investigate a rival.

You guys had a Republican President, Republican congress (both house and senate), Republican cabinet picks BY TRUMP I would add, that could find ZERO things to charge Obama or any of his administration with. 2 ****ING YEARS and NOTHING. Now you're saying this impeachment inquiry is an "all out effort to protect Obama and his past admin". Bull****, this is why Trump supporter's arguments are ground to dust as irrelevant.

Trump is president NOW and he has lied more times than Bush II or Obama COMBINED and he is only in his FIRST TERM. He is corrupt, unethical and has numerous conflicts of interest, Obstruction of Justice and outright abuses of power items he has done. Face Facts, whining about Obama, Hillary, or anyone else doesn't exonerate Trump's actions.

You as an adult (I assume) are LITERALLY using the "BUT BUT MOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY he did it too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Excuse. The only difference is Obama and company actually didn't do the corrupt things Trump is doing.
 
trixare4kids said:
If the Democrats were truly interested in transparency they should have thought about giving the Republicans unilateral power to issue subpoenas. The entire process set up by the Dems has been tainted from the beginning.
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What saddens me is that more Americans aren’t aware of how utterly dishonest Adam Schiff with Nancy Pelosi pulling the puppet strings are. I watched that man, Schiff, outright lie on national television saying he didn’t know who the whistle blower is. I mean come on,,,, he and his staff helped this person prepare the complaint.
 
woodsman said:
What saddens me is that more Americans aren’t aware of how utterly dishonest Adam Schiff with Nancy Pelosi pulling the puppet strings are. I watched that man, Schiff, outright lie on national television saying he didn’t know who the whistle blower is. I mean come on,,,, he and his staff helped this person prepare the complaint.
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And you know that how and what relevance would that hold at this point?
 
woodsman said:
What saddens me is that more Americans aren’t aware of how utterly dishonest Adam Schiff with Nancy Pelosi pulling the puppet strings are. I watched that man, Schiff, outright lie on national television saying he didn’t know who the whistle blower is. I mean come on,,,, he and his staff helped this person prepare the complaint.
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He's now lied twice about not knowing the WB's identity. Furthermore, he's lied about the parameters of the law that protects WB(s).
Of course he and/or his staff helped the CIA Obama holdover prepare the complaint. He actually used the same language in his opening statement that mirrors the language used by the WB. :crazy3:
 
jnug said:
And you know that how and what relevance would that hold at this point?
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It’s been openly reported and admitted for weeks now. How Schiff could look into the camera and stat he doesn’t know is ridiculous. What relevance at this point, wow, ok then.
 
trixare4kids said:
He's now lied twice about not knowing the WB's identity. Furthermore, he's lied about the parameters of the law that protects WB(s).
Of course he and/or his staff helped the CIA Obama holdover prepare the complaint. He actually used the same language in his opening statement that mirrors the language used by the WB. :crazy3:
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Much more likely that a staff member did what they said he did, sent the WB off to an attorney and an attorney helped the WB with the text. It is entirely likely that Schiff himself still does not know the identity of the WB. Schiff had the WB complaint in hand when he made his opening remarks so that does not mean much either.
 
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jnug said:
Much more likely that a staff member did what they said he did, sent the WB off to an attorney and an attorney helped the WB with the text. It is entirely likely that Schiff himself still does not know the identity of the WB. Schiff had the WB complaint in hand when he made his opening remarks so that does not mean much either.
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This post is as partisan as it gets. Jee’s, I hope it’s just partisan foolishness other than a believed narrative.
 
woodsman said:
It’s been openly reported and admitted for weeks now. How Schiff could look into the camera and stat he doesn’t know is ridiculous. What relevance at this point, wow, ok then.
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How many versions are you guys up to now?

There is no WB

The WB is some guy named Ciaramello (sp?)

Schiff is the WB

Schiff's people helped the WB construct the complaint.

Apparently Trump was also in on the whole WB complaint because the call memo was a match, we know the transcript was moved, and testimony is verifying Trump wanted an announcement made that Ukraine was opening an investigation. That's just a sliver.

Crystal balls must be a real thing.
 
jnug said:
Much more likely that a staff member did what they said he did, sent the WB off to an attorney and an attorney helped the WB with the text. It is entirely likely that Schiff himself still does not know the identity of the WB. Schiff had the WB complaint in hand when he made his opening remarks so that does not mean much either.
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Hey, Gateway Pundit says Schiff and the WB are buddies then that's as pure as the driven snow and I'm convinced some of these people would swear it on a bible.

If only they put as much effort into screaming about the many lies of Trump.
 
SkyFox76 said:
Hey, Gateway Pundit says Schiff and the WB are buddies then that's as pure as the driven snow and I'm convinced some of these people would swear it on a bible.

If only they put as much effort into screaming about the many lies of Trump.
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What the "Schiff knows the name of the WB" crowd does not seem to understand is that Schiff had no need to know the name of the WBer. Knowing his name could only be a detriment. The WB was going through channels, he or she passed muster with the ICIG. Schiff has no need to know and Schiff would have been savvy enough to understand that.

The only people wildly concerned about the WBer's name is the GOP so they can carve him up as a sex offender, child molester, Dem and sin of sins, NEVER TRUMPER. Of course it won't matter to them if he or she is actually any of those things. They will claim it anyway.
 
ElChupacabra said:
That's been the interesting aspect from the very beginning. If everything is indeed "perfect", then exposing a sham investigation would be as easy as letting people testify and clearly explain why the administration did what it did. Once they took the strategy of not participating and started deflecting, it opened the door to being on questionable ground. Claiming it's a sham investigation still doesn't answer the questions raised.
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The truth never hides itself.
 
trixare4kids said:
If the Democrats were truly interested in transparency they should have thought about giving the Republicans unilateral power to issue subpoenas. The entire process set up by the Dems has been tainted from the beginning.
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Wrong. If Republicans weren't trying to conceal the truth they wouldn't have defied Congressional subpoenas. If they had nothing to hide they would have appeared instead of breaking the law because they're scared to testify under oath, the truth might come out and they're doing all they can to obstruct the truth.
 
HumblePi said:
Wrong. If Republicans weren't trying to conceal the truth they wouldn't have defied Congressional subpoenas. If they had nothing to hide they would have appeared instead of breaking the law because they're scared to testify under oath, the truth might come out and they're doing all they can to obstruct the truth.
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From the beginning, it's been an UnAmerican process in search of a crime.
I bet you really think the POTUS has to cowtow to the Democrats and prove his innocence?
 
woodsman said:
This post is as partisan as it gets. Jee’s, I hope it’s just partisan foolishness other than a believed narrative.
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The left's current mode of operandi... If the Democrats say Schiff is telling the truth even after having been caught in the same lie twice, it's still true.
 
trixare4kids said:
The left's current mode of operandi... If the Democrats say Schiff is telling the truth even after having been caught in the same lie twice, it's still true.
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Changes nothing. There was no reason for Schiff to know the WBer's name, NONE AT ALL. There was none then and none now and Schiff would have known that. As I posted earlier, the only people interested in the WBer's name is the GOP goon squad and their purposes are entirely suspect at this point. The WB is irrelevant as events have completely passed him or her by.
 
trixare4kids said:
The left's current mode of operandi... If the Democrats say Schiff is telling the truth even after having been caught in the same lie twice, it's still true.
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I’m shocked that anyone, of any political persuasion thinks Schiff is being remotely truthful. But, I guess I can’t get or understand the naive partisans out there. Just look at this thread……
 
woodsman said:
I’m shocked that anyone, of any political persuasion thinks Schiff is being remotely truthful. But, I guess I can’t get or understand the naive partisans out there. Just look at this thread……
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lol....let me guess. You believe Trump is being "remotely truthful."


I guess the other 12,000 times Trump lied didn't quite make it to your newsfeed.
 
calamity said:
lol....let me guess. You believe Trump is being "remotely truthful."


I guess the other 12,000 times Trump lied didn't quite make it to your newsfeed.
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Am I in the wrong thread? I thought the lie count with trump was two columns/threads down on the Vox, twitter and WP websites posted as fact.

These hearings are pretty simple to understand, you don’t need to be a fan of Trump to understand that this dog and pony show is all about politics and not about any truth.
 
The idea that Trump of all people was genuinely concerned about corruption in Ukraine and it's just coincidence that Biden was the corruption that worried him is beyond laughable but that's the argument, and it probably is going to save him.
 
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