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    Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    could Nancy have a vote on resolution of censure instead of impeachment? Never heard that idea .....thoughts?

    Barring any major "smoking guns" from here on out (or anything else severely changing the landscape of these impeachment proceedings), Nancy Pelosi will have quite a decision on her hands. She knows that any impeachment, to have any kind of historical validity, must have (as Jerry Nadler repeated said) broad, bipartisan support. Here are the speaker's choices:

    1. Go for (in football terms) the "short, high percentage pass" and propose a resolution of censure.

    In this instance, it is widely believed that she would get her broad, bipartisan support. The president would receive a loud and clear message from Congress, without the ability to take numerous victory laps while claiming "complete vindication." The country would be spared (in Pelosi's words) a "traumatic impact." The news coverage would focus on the election season and not have to provide wall-to-wall coverage of a Senate trial, which could prove politically destructive to the Democrats. Likewise, the senators currently running for president will be spared the obligation of returning to Washington having to (effectively) suspend their respective campaigns for an indefinite length of time, while they will have to "sit there quietly" and watch all that goes on in a trial, which could last weeks or even months. The many House members in "Trump districts" would likely suffer far lesser consequences at the ballot box with such a vote. And in the end, history will ultimately judge this unfortunate chapter in our history as fair to all sides.
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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

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    could Nancy have a vote on resolution of censure instead of impeachment? Never heard that idea .....thoughts?



    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ernatives.html
    twump and his criminal cabal are in massive legal jeopardy.

    Threads like this won't change that.

    Sorry about all the pain you're in, but it's going to get a LOT worse.

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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    could Nancy have a vote on resolution of censure instead of impeachment? Never heard that idea .....thoughts?



    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ernatives.html
    Yes, she could but I think it's too late to backtrack to a censure. The optics of doing so now would point to weakness, a .

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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    could Nancy have a vote on resolution of censure instead of impeachment? Never heard that idea .....thoughts?



    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ernatives.html
    Yes she could. Many would have preferred that to impeachment, and they make good arguments in political terms. However in terms of Abuse of Power & Obstruction of Congress, she's got Trump nailed to the wall. It's not her problem if the GOP Senate won't do their job. So it seems it's going to be up to use voters to finish the job Nancy started.
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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    twump and his criminal cabal are in massive legal jeopardy.

    Threads like this won't change that.

    Sorry about all the pain you're in, but it's going to get a LOT worse.
    Threads like this are like a safe place for Trump's boys.

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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Yes she could. Many would have preferred that to impeachment, and they make good arguments in political terms. However in terms of Abuse of Power & Obstruction of Congress, she's got Trump nailed to the wall. It's not her problem if the GOP Senate won't do their job. So it seems it's going to be up to use voters to finish the job Nancy started.
    Yeah, and here's what the voters will KNOW after the Schiff show is over....
    Transcript/memo of calls shows no pressure, no quid pro quo.
    Zelensky has said to the press all over the world, no pressure, no quid pro quo.
    The Ukrainian government says they had no knowledge of promised aid money being delayed.
    Ukrainian government insists that they did nothing to procure aid.
    No testimony from the do gooder faux wb who met with Schiff prior to the complaint being filed.

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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by CaughtInThe View Post
    Threads like this are like a safe place for Trump's boys.
    Yes, here they are safe to go into their fantasies about Durham and Horowitz locking up every Democrat in DC, and jerk off to images of Nancy Reagan.

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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Yeah, and here's what the voters will KNOW after the Schiff show is over....
    Transcript/memo of calls shows no pressure, no quid pro quo.
    Zelensky has said to the press all over the world, no pressure, no quid pro quo.
    The Ukrainian government says they had no knowledge of promised aid money being delayed.
    Ukrainian government insists that they did nothing to procure aid.
    No testimony from the do gooder faux wb who met with Schiff prior to the complaint being filed.
    We've been through this before, and I completely disagree on the bolded point, no matter how often you try to pound it home.

    I see:

    1] Abuse of Power
    2] Obstruction of Congress

    With #1 being apparent in the call memo, and #2 being Trump S.O.P./M.O
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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Yes she could. Many would have preferred that to impeachment, and they make good arguments in political terms. However in terms of Abuse of Power & Obstruction of Congress, she's got Trump nailed to the wall. It's not her problem if the GOP Senate won't do their job. So it seems it's going to be up to use voters to finish the job Nancy started.
    Back in 1998 the Democrats were in the position that Republicans are right now.

    When the GOP decided to push through articles of impeachment and table a censure resolution, there was nothing the Democrats could do to stop them. The majority party sets the rules as to what gets voted on in these kind of matters, and there's really no parliamentary trick the minority can pull to stop the majority.

    Now, the Democrats can do the same thing to the Republicans, some twenty years later.

    The Democrats are in charge now. They can block any proposals from the GOP (as they did today), do things along total party lines, and pass articles of impeachment to the full floor, and there's not a damn thing the Republicans can do to stop them.

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    Re: Nervous Nancy's two alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    We've been through this before, and I completely disagree on the bolded point, no matter how often you try to pound it home.

    I see:

    1] Abuse of Power
    2] Obstruction of Congress

    With #1 being apparent in the call memo, and #2 being Trump S.O.P./M.O
    3# Bribery.

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