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    televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    So far, what I have seen is the democrats pushing the narrative that President Trump used his office to meddle in the 2020 election to investigate Joe Biden and Hunter. The investigation into them both has nothing to do with 2020, but the possible corruption that occurred in 2014. It is not unlawful or against the national interests of the USA to investigate allegations of corruption in a foreign country, especially when the USA and Ukraine have a mutual agreement to do so.

    Seemingly anyone with a brain that still functions can see that Trump needs no help whatsoever to beat Joe Biden in a general election, yet this is what the democrats are pushing. I think what needs to be found out, is how many board meetings did Hunter participate, and how much time was involved to earn the many thousands of dollars he was paid.....in so doing, we will readily see if there was true corruption involved.

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Trump tried to meddle in 2020.

    Evidence to support that assertion:

    Multiple individuals, some of them Trump appointees, corroborate that statement.

    Meadows is lying right now.

    Right now.

    This is a disgrace.

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Trump could care less about investigations. He asked specifically for PUBLIC televised Ukranian statements claiming investigations are ongoing. Someone who actually wants investigations would want them private, not public, so as not to alert potential suspects and witnesses. The only reason he has been asking for public statements is to smear Biden, who has been his most likely opponent for 2020.

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by redbeer View Post
    So far, what I have seen is the democrats pushing the narrative that President Trump used his office to meddle in the 2020 election to investigate Joe Biden and Hunter. The investigation into them both has nothing to do with 2020, but the possible corruption that occurred in 2014. It is not unlawful or against the national interests of the USA to investigate allegations of corruption in a foreign country, especially when the USA and Ukraine have a mutual agreement to do so.

    Seemingly anyone with a brain that still functions can see that Trump needs no help whatsoever to beat Joe Biden in a general election, yet this is what the democrats are pushing. I think what needs to be found out, is how many board meetings did Hunter participate, and how much time was involved to earn the many thousands of dollars he was paid.....in so doing, we will readily see if there was true corruption involved.
    It is, or should be, illegal to use a shadow gov't and the prez use a personal lawyer to go to a foreign gov't to dig up dirt or they won't get their military funds the congress has granted.

    Extortion is never a good thing.

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Trump tried to meddle in 2020.

    Evidence to support that assertion:

    Multiple individuals, some of them Trump appointees, corroborate that statement.

    Meadows is lying right now.

    Right now.

    This is a disgrace.

    The investigation into the Bidens was before the 2016 election.....just because Joe is running for the democratic nominee let him off the hook?

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Slavister View Post
    Trump could care less about investigations. He asked specifically for PUBLIC televised Ukranian statements claiming investigations are ongoing. Someone who actually wants investigations would want them private, not public, so as not to alert potential suspects and witnesses. The only reason he has been asking for public statements is to smear Biden, who has been his most likely opponent for 2020.

    Turn on the lights and the democrats run into a frenzy. The corruption by democrats in Ukraine is alarming and they have to stop Trump at all costs...hence the impeachment.....it's all a big joke.

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    It is, or should be, illegal to use a shadow gov't and the prez use a personal lawyer to go to a foreign gov't to dig up dirt or they won't get their military funds the congress has granted.

    Extortion is never a good thing.

    From knowing all of the corruption that has occurred in Ukraine, who else is Trump to trust.....have you not seen Joe Biden brag about his "quid pro quo"?

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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by redbeer View Post
    So far, what I have seen is the democrats pushing the narrative that President Trump used his office to meddle in the 2020 election to investigate Joe Biden and Hunter. The investigation into them both has nothing to do with 2020, but the possible corruption that occurred in 2014.
    Some great logic there! /s

    It is no coincidence Trump wanted Ukraine to start an investigation when Biden was in the lead amongst Democrats. Only a hyper-partisan fool would believe Trump is being unbiased and only cared about corruption in Ukraine. Corruption doesn't seem to be an issue for him when working with Saudi Arabia and selling our weapons to them.

    It is not unlawful or against the national interests of the USA to investigate allegations of corruption in a foreign country, especially when the USA and Ukraine have a mutual agreement to do so.
    It is against the law to bribe (or extort, in this case) others for personal/political gain. It is in the Constitution.


    Seemingly anyone with a brain that still functions can see that Trump needs no help whatsoever to beat Joe Biden in a general election,
    Lol.

    I think what needs to be found out, is how many board meetings did Hunter participate, and how much time was involved to earn the many thousands of dollars he was paid.....in so doing, we will readily see if there was true corruption involved.
    It really doesn't matter if Hunter attended hundreds of board meetings and was paid millions by the company. Nepotism may be ugly, but it is legal (as we've seen with the Trump Family).
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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Trump tried to meddle in 2020.

    Evidence to support that assertion:

    Multiple individuals, some of them Trump appointees, corroborate that statement.

    Meadows is lying right now.

    Right now.

    This is a disgrace.
    I just heard Devin Nunes had lied about 12 times in his first statements in this hearing.
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    Re: televised impeachment false narrative by democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by redbeer View Post
    From knowing all of the corruption that has occurred in Ukraine, who else is Trump to trust.....have you not seen Joe Biden brag about his "quid pro quo"?
    Why didn't Trump demand Saudi Arabia crack down on corruption in their country before giving them weapons?
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