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Is Trump the Greatest President Ever? A Number of Respected People Think So

MrWonka said:
Obama's Job creation numbers were actually the same or better than Trump's in every year of his presidency. So was GDP growth. The only difference is that Obama did it while reducing the deficit over the course of his presidency not increasing it.

Regulations don't do what you think they do. In fact, in some cases they can actually create jobs. More often than not they are jobs neutral. The ACA, by helping to insure an additional $24 million people caused huge job creation in the Medical field. Those jobs were very good, high paying jobs that cannot be shipped overseas.
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To Trump, that will sound like a challenge. Fortunately, he can't read.
 
Mashmont said:
IS DONALD TRUMP USA's GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER? | InterNations
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...50074e-9c2a-11e9-83e3-45fded8e8d2e_story.html
Despite media bias, Trump perhaps greatest president | Letters | bozemandailychronicle.com

"In truth, Mr. Trump is the best thing that has happened to the United States since Ronald Reagan was in office, and Reagan was the best president since Lincoln. Lincoln’s opponents used a pistol. The current president’s critics attempt to do him in with vindictiveness." --Thomas Ryan, award winning historian and Civil War author

"There’s George Washington. There’s Abraham Lincoln. And there’s Donald Trump. For such a time as this, America has rarely, if ever, seen a greater president. Of course, you’d never know it by reading this newspaper or its opinion page. You’d never know it by reading the big national press."--- Peter Arnone, Bozeman Daily Chronicle
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"A number of respected people"????

Two guys named "Peter Arnone"and "Thomas Ryan"...and some anonymous blog post author by "Community Member"?

:lamo

Respected....by whom?

In the REAL WORLD, most "respected people" already rank Trump as one of the 3 worst Presidents in history. He'll soon be impeached. And when he leaves office, he'll be quickly indicted by at least one state.
 
Mashmont said:
0bummer doesn't get credit for the inevitable rebound from a deep recession he and his party created.

When you bounce a ball and it inevitably comes back up, you didn't "raise it up".
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Mashmont said:
Time Magazine is not a respected forum. It's filled with leftwing Soros-paid hacks.

In NOBODY's fantasy, could a president with 121 record high DOW closes be considered the 'worst president in history'. Please don't post absurdity.
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It was respected enough for Trump to mock up a fake cover of himself on it.
 
Mashmont said:
What makes a 'historian', and why isn't Rush one as well? I would say Rush is one of the top political historians in the world
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If by "historian" you mean "opiate addict" I would probably agree.
 
Glowpun said:
If I were to run, I'd run as a Republican. They're the dumbest group of voters in the country.
They love anything on Fox News. I could lie and they would eat it up. I bet my numbers will be terrific.

People Magazine, 1998
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Credit where it is due.
He saw his marks, and he made bank on them.
 
slick said:
That wasn't an upset. The only reason the experts thought Truman was in trouble was because the dixiecrat candidate Thurman
was considered a sure thing to take from 4 to 6 states in the deep south away from Truman. They were as safe for the Democrats
in those days as California is today.

As for Truman's opponent. Dewey he was the Mittt Romney of that era, favorite for the Republican nomination in 1940 & lost to Wilke,
won Republican nomination in 1944 but lost to Roosevelt, again the candidate in 1948 & lost again. Dewey was a recitative loser,
it was hardly an upset to whip Dewey.
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So Truman was not expected to win but he won and this wasnt a political upset because????
Dewey had good reasons to feel so sure of being elected. Almost every political expert in the country said Truman had no chance to win. The Wall Street Journal, for example, printed a story about what Dewey would do in the White House after the election. And the New York Times said that Dewey would win the election by a large majority.
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American History: Truman Wins the Election of 1948
 
ultmd said:
"A number of respected people"????

Two guys named "Peter Arnone"and "Thomas Ryan"...and some anonymous blog post author by "Community Member"?

:lamo

Respected....by whom?

In the REAL WORLD, most "respected people" already rank Trump as one of the 3 worst Presidents in history. He'll soon be impeached. And when he leaves office, he'll be quickly indicted by at least one state.
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Quit blabbling the Marxist talking points. Neither you nor any of these leftwing 'historians' can name a reason why Trump is the 'worst president'. A guy who can build the BEST economy in history can in no way be the worst president.
 
Quag said:
So Truman was not expected to win but he won and this wasnt a political upset because????

American History: Truman Wins the Election of 1948
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It definitely was a upset, you're right! My mother used to talk about that race a lot. Dad was for Dewey & ma was for Truman and when they found
out that Truman won they both were pleased Truman won. However I still don't think it was as big an upset as Trump beating Mrs. Clinton was.

I looked up the specifics of the 48 race & there was similarities to the 2016 election.

1) A Democrat talking point was that they lost Pa, Mich & Wis by only 70,000 votes & if they won those states Clinton would have won while:
Dewey lost Ohio, Cal & Ill by less than 60,000 votes with the margin of victory less than 1% in each state & with those 78 electorals Dewey would have won

2) Dewey because he won Ohio in 1944 over Roosevelt was so certain of Ohio that he didn't campaign there like we heard so many times that Mrs. Clinton
because Wisconsin had gone Democrat in the last 7 presidential elections similarly did not campaign there. Big mistakes by both.

I think Truman became the underdog early on because it was felt that he would be damaged by third parties both who historically voted Democrat.
The two third parties did not hurt Truman nearly as much as expected. Thurmond's Dixiecrats carried only four Southern states, a lower total than predicted.
Wallace's Progressives received only 2.4% of the national popular vote, well below their expected vote total and slightly less than the Dixiecrats, and Wallace
did not take as many liberal votes from Truman as many political pundits had predicted.

An interesting footnote:
As of 2019, this remains the last election in which Illinois and New Jersey have not voted for the same candidate.
 
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slick said:
It definitely was a upset, you're right! My mother used to talk about that race a lot. Dad was for Dewey & ma was for Truman and when they found
out that Truman won they both were pleased Truman won. However I still don't think it was as big an upset as Trump beating Mrs. Clinton was.

I looked up the specifics of the 48 race & there was similarities to the 2016 election.

1) A Democrat talking point was that they lost Pa, Mich & Wis by only 70,000 votes & if they won those states Clinton would have won while:
Dewey lost Ohio, Cal & Ill by less than 60,000 votes with the margin of victory less than 1% in each state & with those 78 electorals Dewey would have won

2) Dewey because he won Ohio in 1944 over Roosevelt was so certain of Ohio that he didn't campaign there like we heard so many times that Mrs. Clinton
because Wisconsin had gone Democrat in the last 7 presidential elections similarly did not campaign there. Big mistakes by both.

I think Truman became the underdog early on because it was felt that he would be damaged by third parties both who historically voted Democrat.
The two third parties did not hurt Truman nearly as much as expected. Thurmond's Dixiecrats carried only four Southern states, a lower total than predicted.
Wallace's Progressives received only 2.4% of the national popular vote, well below their expected vote total and slightly less than the Dixiecrats, and Wallace
did not take as many liberal votes from Truman as many political pundits had predicted.

An interesting footnote:
As of 2019, this remains the last election in which Illinois and New Jersey have not voted for the same candidate.
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I dont think the Trump victory was more of an upset, I dont remember anyone thinking Truman had a chance and while the polls mostly favored Clinton there were some that favored trump.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Also Trump lost the popular vote 46.1 to 48.2 while Truman had even more than Clinton with 49.6 in a 3 way race.
Plus lets face it the headline pic showed how certain people were Dewey would win.
 
slick said:
Furthermore, what I can't believe is that those who hate Trump still can't acknowledge he's a political genius.

* Zero electoral experience at any level prior to 2016.
* Underfunded and in the face of a hostile media - he beat the annointed GOP candidates and then beat heavily favored Hillary.

There isn't 1 of 20 presidential candidates that could buy a headline right now.

And people on here (who've been wrong about Trump at every step) have the audacity to suggest the guy isn't killing it? Please.
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More satire; excellent, keep it up. Maybe you could get a job writing comedy? "Political genius":lamo
 
snakestretcher said:
More satire; excellent, keep it up. Maybe you could get a job writing comedy? "Political genius":lamo
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If he's not a political genius, how do you explain his winning the presidency despite being a total outsider?

Put your blind hatred aside for a moment, and examine facts.
 
Mashmont said:
If he's not a political genius, how do you explain his winning the presidency despite being a total outsider?

Put your blind hatred aside for a moment, and examine facts.
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He gave lip service to gullible Evangelicals, and they took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Then, after he got them to drink his kool-aid, he laughed behind their backs, and outed himself as 'loving the uneducated'. Educate yourself as to who his base is.
 
jnug said:
Tread title: Is Trump the Greatest President Ever? A Number of Respected People Think So

Wonder if anybody has cross referenced the list of "respected people" that think Trump is the Greatest President ever with a list of people that think Trump should get the Nobel for Peace and Solomon deserves a Pulitzer for his horse crap. Bet you would see a good many of the same people.
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Remember when Trump rhetorically nominated himself for a Nobel Prize for setting up his pointless pageant with Kim Jong Un?

And the rubes chanted “Nobel” for weeks until it became obvious that Trump got nothing out of the North Koreans.
 
Logician Man said:
He gave lip service to gullible Evangelicals, and they took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Then, after he got them to drink his kool-aid, he laughed behind their backs, and outed himself as 'loving the uneducated'. Educate yourself as to who his base is.
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I fully expect him to go on tour with Falwell, Graham, maybe Joyce Meyers or Joel, or some of the other television bible thumpers.

And the evangelicals will throw their nickels and dimes at him, too.
 
Logician Man said:
He gave lip service to gullible Evangelicals, and they took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Then, after he got them to drink his kool-aid, he laughed behind their backs, and outed himself as 'loving the uneducated'. Educate yourself as to who his base is.
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Trump won the white college-educated vote. Hillary won the dumbass vote.
 
TomFitz said:
I fully expect him to go on tour with Falwell, Graham, maybe Joyce Meyers or Joel, or some of the other television bible thumpers.

And the evangelicals will throw their nickels and dimes at him, too.
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Why the hell would evangelists go with the godless socialists? Why would they have gone with Hillary? You people don't think.
 
Mashmont said:
Why the hell would evangelists go with the godless socialists? Why would they have gone with Hillary? You people don't think.
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They're illiterate, hypocritical phonies. They profess to be pro-life, but jumped at the chance to vote for a serial adulterer who begged the mother of his love child, Tiffany, to be aborted....next silly question.
 
I will say that Donald Trump is probably the greatest at conning people and playing on their emotions. Yeah, sure, he copied a lot of that stuff from Rush and Sean but he still was great at picking up on what makes Republican voters emotional and using it to his personal advantage.
 
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