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"Mash, wipe my butt. I'm too lazy"
You lost. Bye bye:2wave:
"Mash, wipe my butt. I'm too lazy"
I sleep very well at night knowing Trump is President.I know he will protect me from the liberal vermin.
I sleep very well at night knowing Trump is President.I know he will protect me from the liberal vermin.
How one rates presidents is all in the eye of the beholder. Partisanship usually dictates how a Republican or Democratic president will be ranked by any one individual. Historians top 10
1 Washington
2 FDR
3 Lincoln
4 Teddy Roosevelt
5 Jefferson
6 Eisenhower
7 Truman
8 Madison
9 Jackson
10 Wilson
The name 'Trump' is conspicuously absent from that list. I doubt it would ever appear on one.
No one cares
I do.
I do.
How one rates presidents is all in the eye of the beholder. Partisanship usually dictates how a Republican or Democratic president will be ranked by any one individual.
How one rates presidents is all in the eye of the beholder. Partisanship usually dictates how a Republican or Democratic president will be ranked by any one individual.
A prime example of this was the question who were the best and worst presidents since WWII.
Best and Worst presidents since WWII
2014 Quinnipiac poll
A Quinnipiac University poll taken June 24–30, 2014, asked 1,446 registered voters in the United States who they thought were the best and worst Presidents since World War II.
Best President since World War II:
1 Ronald Reagan (35%)
2 Bill Clinton (18%)
3 John F. Kennedy (15%)
4 Barack Obama (8%)
5 Dwight Eisenhower (5%)
Worst President since World War II:
1 Barack Obama (33%)
2 George W. Bush (28%)
3 Richard Nixon (13%)
4 Jimmy Carter (8%)
5 Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (3%)
Amazingly Obama was ranked the fourth best and the worst president. We’re talking 14 presidents here. On to the next poll.
2017 Quinnipiac poll
Four years later, a Quinnipiac University poll taken January 20–25, 2017, asked 1,190 voters in the United States who they thought were the best and worst Presidents since World War II.
Best President since World War II:
1 Ronald Reagan (30%)
2 Barack Obama (29%)
3 John F. Kennedy (12%)
4 Bill Clinton (9%)
5 Dwight Eisenhower (3%)
Worst President since World War II:
1 Richard Nixon (24%)
2 Barack Obama (23%)
3 George W. Bush (22%)
4 Jimmy Carter (10%)
5 Ronald Reagan (5%)
Here we have Reagan as the best and 5th worst out of 14. Obama was the 2nd best and 2nd worst president. So you can see how partisanship or party affiliation effects how one sees or views different presidents.
2017 Morning Consult poll
Including for the first time President Donald Trump, a Morning Consult poll taken February 9–10, 2017, asked 1,791 registered voters in the United States, who they thought were the best and worst Presidents since World War II.
Best President since World War II:
1 Ronald Reagan (26%)
2 Barack Obama (20%)
3 John F. Kennedy (17%)
4 Bill Clinton (9%)
5 Donald Trump (6%)
Worst President since World War II:
1 Donald Trump (26%)
2 Barack Obama (25%)
3 Richard Nixon (13%)
4 George W. Bush (7%)
5 Bill Clinton (6%)
This one above included Trump for the first time. He was seen as the 5th best and the worst president at the same time. Obama was the 2nd best and the 2nd worst. One last poll.
2018 Quinnipiac poll
A Quinnipiac University poll taken March 3–5, 2018, asked 1,122 voters in the United States who they thought were the best and worst Presidents since World War II.
Best President since World War II:
1 Ronald Reagan (28%)
2 Barack Obama (24%)
3 John F. Kennedy (tie) (10%)
4 Bill Clinton (tie) (10%)
5 Donald Trump (7%)
Worst President since World War II:
1 Donald Trump (41%)
2 Barack Obama (21%)
3 Richard Nixon (10%)
4 Jimmy Carter (8%)
5 George W. Bush (6%)
Again folks view Trump as the 5th best and worst president since WWII. Obama remains 2nd best and 2nd worst. Partisanship, the power of the R and the D is plainly at work here. One political ideology takes front and center on how one ranks any president.
Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia
president. Historians states in order to get a fairly accurate ranking of the presidents one must wait 20 years to rate or rank them after they left office. This gives historians time to gauge the president’s policies long term along with giving the partisan effect to dim. The partisan effect will never die out, but it will dim over time.
Historians top 10
1 Washington
2 FDR
3 Lincoln
4 Teddy Roosevelt
5 Jefferson
6 Eisenhower
7 Truman
8 Madison
9 Jackson
10 Wilson
We'll wait while you recover.Someone's been at the hallucinogenics again I see.:lamo
I sleep very well at night knowing Trump is President.I know he will protect me from the liberal vermin.
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Wow, Obama worse than Nixon in that 2018 Quinnipiac poll. I think I know what's at play there.
You are not doing very well.
What's at play is partisanship. Most republicans saying Obama was the worst ever, most democrats stating Trump is the worst ever. Besides, there aren't that many alive that remember Nixon or lived through Watergate. Perhaps what is surprising is the Republicans acknowledge Reagan as a better president than Trump. Folks tend to remember the most recent in these types of polls along with being highly partisan to either an R or D president.
I sleep very well at night knowing Trump is President.I know he will protect me from the liberal vermin.
You can say that, but it doesn't prove a thing. The respondents would have to be interviewed, with noted biases, for there to be a definitive answer. So...
It is amazing that in just a bit under three years in office Donald Trump is in a class by himself that no other of our 44 presidents can come close to,
A reality TV President "should be better than a comedian President"?
When in a hole, stop digging.Done: Trump speak for "we're done trying to make this happen".
Progress: On something Trump said he already had during the campaign.
Factually inaccurate: Which part?
Evidence: Dead and displaced Kurds.
Factually inaccurate: Trump can clear that up at his impeachment.
Point: Acting without oversight is what tyrants do.
Name a few: Lindsay "Trump's unfit for office" Graham;
Mick "He's a terrible human being" Mulvaney;
Ted "Trump is a pathological liar" Cruz.
Fixed that for you. I voted for Obama and was sorely disappointed. I am still debating if McCain would ahve been worse.The sad reality is that this President is better than the one who came before him.
When in a hole, stop digging.
I'll see you in about 51 weeks, if you show.
Fixed that for you. I voted for Obama and was sorely disappointed. I am still debating if McCain would ahve been worse.
No contest this time through. Trump is vastly better than what Clinton would have been.