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To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

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To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

In this week’s impeachment hearings, expect a lot of G.O.P. conspiracy theorizing.

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Rep. Jim Jordan (R/Ohio) - conspiricist and Trump toady.

11/11/19
“I’m really worried about these conspiracy theories, and I’m worried that all of you are going to go down a rabbit hole, you know, looking for things that are not going to be at all helpful to the American people or to our future election in 2020.” former National Security Council official Fiona Hill’s testimony last month. Transcript released this past Friday.

She is right to be concerned. This week, as part of its impeachment inquiry, the House begins public hearings into Trump’s attempt to extort Ukraine’s president into starting bogus investigations to benefit Trump politically. Republicans have telegraphed several possible defenses of the president. The Washington Post reported that House Republicans may try to throw the hapless Trump lackeys Rudy Giuliani, Mick Mulvaney and Gordon Sondland under the bus, suggesting they “could have acted on their own to influence Ukraine policy.” Other Republicans have settled on calling Trump’s actions “inappropriate” but not impeachable. But the House Republicans who are actually involved in the hearings seem set to go all in on the fantasy of Ukrainian election interference. To exonerate Trump, they are ready to help cover for Russia. On Saturday, Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, sent the committee’s chairman, Adam Schiff, a list of people Republicans want to call to testify. To understand the significance of some of the names, you’d have to plunge into the very rabbit holes Hill warned of. Luckily, Nunes made his intention clear, writing of Trump’s “documented belief that the Ukrainian government meddled in the 2016 election,” which “forms the basis for a reasonable desire for Ukraine to investigate the circumstances surrounding the election.”

The conspiracy theories that undergird the president’s “documented belief” aren’t really coherent, but they don’t have to be to serve their purpose, which is sowing confusion about the well-established fact that Russia assisted Trump’s campaign. Some of these lies seem to have originated in Russia; documents from the Mueller investigation recently obtained by BuzzFeed News show that Manafort was blaming Ukraine for the Democratic National Committee hack back in 2016, a story he apparently got from one of his associates, a former Russian intelligence officer named Konstantin Kilimnik. (Hill testified that she’d encountered Kilimnik in a previous job, and “all of my staff thought he was a Russian spy.”) In her testimony, Hill seemed to warn Republicans off their current path. She mentioned the report issued last month by the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee about how Russia used online propaganda to boost Trump in 2016. “If we have people running around chasing rabbit holes because Rudy Giuliani or others have been feeding information to The Hill, Politico, we are not going to be prepared as a country to push back on this again,” she said. “The Russians thrive on misinformation and disinformation.” Unfortunately, so do Trump’s defenders.
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With the televised House hearings beginning today, don't fall for the GOP lines of attack that feature smear tactics, Giuliani conspiracy theories, Russian disinformation, and pretzel logic. The GOP is trying to defend Trump via these arcane and sleazy methods because they have no cogent defense against the unvarnished truth - Donald Trump extorted Ukraine for his personal political gain in the 2020 US election. This impeachment is not about Joe and Hunter Biden. It is strictly about Donald Trump and his illegal reckless actions.

If you have any doubts about the character of the witnesses appearing this week, you can always look them up in Wikipedia.

Wednesday 11/13 - William B. Taylor Jr. - Wikipedia

Wednesday 11/13 - George P. Kent - Wikipedia

Friday 11/15 - Marie L. Yovanovitch - Wikipedia
 
Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
 
Nunes in the opening minutes of his statement still has his tongue jammed up the ass of Trump bringing up every far right wing conspiracy theory floated to defend Trump.
 
I used my Fox News decoder ring in order to make sense of Nunes' opening comments.
 
nota bene said:
Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
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Trump could rape an underage girl, shoot a man in cold blood in front of Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump supporters such as yourself would STILL be asking that same question. Go sit down since you've obviously learned how to type with your head in dark places and refuse to see anything corrupt or unethical about Trump. We get it, there is NOTHING you will EVER see wrong with Trump.
 
nota bene said:
Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
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That's a great suggestion, why not send that idea over to the Senate? Members like Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul and Chuck Grassley have all stated that they will not be watching these testimonies today. Churck Grassley even said "I have better things to do".
 
Three rings under the big top!
 
nota bene said:
Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
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Respectfully (heh), it's not possible to exonerate Trump for being Trump. If, however, it could be proven that Trump absolutely did not intend to be Trump it could be possible to exonerate him. We'd need Comey for that, but alas, Trump, being Trump, fired Comey, so here we are.
 
What are the democrats charging Trump with? Investigation of a possible crime?

There's a lot of problems in the country. We pay democrat representatives good money to handle these problems. Why are they devoting all this time and money towards partisan attacks?
 
HumblePi said:
That's a great suggestion, why not send that idea over to the Senate? Members like Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul and Chuck Grassley have all stated that they will not be watching these testimonies today. Churck Grassley even said "I have better things to do".
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The Senators may or may not be watching the hearings. They will definitely be watching the polls though. That's kind of sad when you think about it.
 
Praxas said:
Trump could rape an underage girl, shoot a man in cold blood in front of Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump supporters such as yourself would STILL be asking that same question. Go sit down since you've obviously learned how to type with your head in dark places and refuse to see anything corrupt or unethical about Trump. We get it, there is NOTHING you will EVER see wrong with Trump.
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Trump is filthiest filth EVER, and only filthy people can't see how filthy Trump is!!!!

Because their dirty brains and muddy eyes are so filled with filth!!!!

:donkeyfla
 
Praxas said:
Trump could rape an underage girl, shoot a man in cold blood in front of Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump supporters such as yourself would STILL be asking that same question. Go sit down since you've obviously learned how to type with your head in dark places and refuse to see anything corrupt or unethical about Trump. We get it, there is NOTHING you will EVER see wrong with Trump.
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Never mind your going out of your way to personally attack me; you only make yourself look silly with irrational exaggerated claims such as this. :3oops:
 
I’m sure the Republicans are glad they decided to hold the hearings in public, now......

Erdogan presser will be a pisser, imo!
 
HumblePi said:
That's a great suggestion, why not send that idea over to the Senate? Members like Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul and Chuck Grassley have all stated that they will not be watching these testimonies today. Churck Grassley even said "I have better things to do".
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You don't think their aides will provide them with summaries?
 
nota bene said:
Never mind your going out of your way to personally attack me; you only make yourself look silly with irrational exaggerated claims such as this. :3oops:
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Nope you guys go out of your way to defend Trump on ANYTHING. You've proven me 100% correct about Trump and Trump supporters. The fact you think it is a personal attack on you is not my problem, but your guilty conscious which again is not my problem.

Trump was correct when he said he could shoot someone on 5th ave and his supporters will still support him. You demonstrate that 100% correct.
 
nota bene said:
Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
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Is this the newest talking point the GOP is floating? Seems kind of lame. Sure wish they'd decide if using your personal mobbed up attorney to criminal thugs as point man on foreign policy and conditioning US favors on investigations into your opponent was a good thing or not. :confused:
 
Praxas said:
nota bene said:
Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
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Trump could rape an underage girl, shoot a man in cold blood in front of Moscow Mitch McConnell and Trump supporters such as yourself would STILL be asking that same question. Go sit down since you've obviously learned how to type with your head in dark places and refuse to see anything corrupt or unethical about Trump. We get it, there is NOTHING you will EVER see wrong with Trump.
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Needle, meet nerve. :shock:
 
JasperL said:
Is this the newest talking point the GOP is floating?
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I have no idea. I'm asking as an ordinary citizen who is only kinda-sorta paying attention.
 
Can anyone imagine the old republicans (WWII vets, Cold War vets) getting in bed with Putin's Russia?
 
swing_voter said:
What are the democrats charging Trump with? Investigation of a possible crime?
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Don't kid yourself. Trump could care less about the investigation. He only demanded PUBLIC televised statements from Ukraine that they are investigating Bidens. Only wanted to smear the opponent or else... was going to illegally withhold their aid and help Russia over our ally.
 
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