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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    News reports spell it both ways, I suspect Yanukovich is the westernized spelling :

    Jan 24, 2019 - A Ukrainian court has sentenced former president Viktor Yanukovich to 13 years in prison for treason - attempting to quash a 2014 popular ...
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    Viktor Viktorovych Yanukovych was a Ukrainian politician and ...

    Regardless, The Maidan revolution which bought about the coup of the elected president was about
    bringing democracy to Ukraine...or something. Right? No way, what it did was alienate the people
    of Donetsk and Lugansk who, having a president THEY voted for, rather thought Ukraine had a democracy already.

    Their president was removed - replaced with an interim president who tried to ban their language and appointed
    billionaire governors of the eastern regions without elections - and then burned alive the people of Odessa who protested.
    East Ukraine, at this point, got it's taste of the new "Ukrainian democracy and freedom" and found they did not care for it.

    Porky made it ten times worse when he sent forces out to the Donbass to reel in the rebels. Russia then, the historical
    protector of the Slavs, moved to protect the rebels with weaponry & expertise and The Donbass conflict ended tragically
    for Ukraine a long time ago at Debaltseve:

    Porky & the commanders responsible for sending the Ukraine army into Debaltseve should be court marshaled.
    The commanders were at a military level of kindergarten and destroying the army's morale.They were unfit to command
    at this level of combat or any level in the military.Why would they send the army into Debaltseve without strong
    artillery support and the Ukraine army giving them support on at least three sides.They were sitting ducks in the
    center of Debaltseve without any logistical support and the Ukraine army was trapped.

    Russia is not interested in war with Ukraine. The took over Crimea without a shot being fired. The Donbass conflict
    is over. If Russia wanted war with Ukraine there were other fertile areas to pounce on. After all, Kharkiv & Odessa
    are decidely Russian. If free elections were held today they probably would join the Eastern freedom fighters seperating
    from the Lviv, Volyn, Ternopil crowd..

    Yanukovich Tymoshenko
    Kharkiv region 71.35% 22.43%
    Odesa region 74.14% 19.52%
    Agreed, IF they would have succeeded in enslaving Ukraine's economy, they likely would have been happy with that or at least sated temporarily.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I have no idea. I'm asking as an ordinary citizen who is only kinda-sorta paying attention.
    I mean this as a sincere question, my friend: if you're not paying attention, why do you feel the compulsion to comment on something you are obviously ignorant of? When you previously asked
    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
    Was that also based upon ignorance? Were you being facetious? Or are you really that incredibly uninformed? Were you just intending to be provocative? Did you have a point? Isn't deliberately trying to derail a thread a rule violation? Inquiring minds (genuine ones) want to know.
    Mission: "to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States." ACLU. Why isn't every American a member?

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You don't think they'll be provided with transcripts of the proceedings? You really think that if they're not watching the live action, they're not doing their due diligence?
    Do you really believe that any of them have the remotest interest in doing "due diligence?" Most have never even read the executive summary of the Mueller report. Of course they have an obligation to watch (they're not doing anything else, anyway). One can never gauge credibility of a witness from a staff summary or transcript alone.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Is the issue whether this is wise and good or whether it's illegal?

    I'm assuming that you're referring to Giuliani here?
    Illegality is not a relevant standard for impeachment.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Shouldn't it first be decided that there is something to exonerate Trump for?
    In point of fact, no. Exoneration only requires that there be an allegation of wrongdoing (which,of course, is the basis for the inquiry), consideration of evidence, and an explicit finding of non-malfeasance. Unless we're using the archaic meaning, "release someone from (a duty or obligation)", which, I suspect, is really what they Republicans are trying to do - release Trump from his obligation to "faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Since, obviously, he's not doing that.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    I used my Fox News decoder ring in order to make sense of Nunes' opening comments.
    Care to translate for the layman?

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    That's a great suggestion, why not send that idea over to the Senate? Members like Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul and Chuck Grassley have all stated that they will not be watching these testimonies today. Chuck Grassley even said "I have better things to do".
    I hear he is taking fiddling lessons.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leftsdoo View Post
    He beat Hillary.

    That's domestic abuse.

    One should not poke fun at domestic abuse.
    It isn't in the realm of anything funny.
    You should be ashamed of yourself.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    To prosecute Trump, Democrats embrace Deep State disinformation.

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    Re: To Exonerate Trump, Republicans Embrace Russian Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by jnug View Post
    Russia has already annexed Croatia and is fully deployed in Donbass. Are you suggesting that Putin is not attempted to annex Ukraine. Good luck with that one, all the algebraic nonsense aside.

    Got more gibberish for us to digest?
    I kinda liked the argument being laid out in algebraic equations.
    It showed some flare. I appreciate that, I've been getting tired of the standard deflection.

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