How Dishonest Is Adam Schiff?

Fishking said:

So you're saying it's been looked into and investigated? Provide your evidence.

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HumblePi said:

Can you post a link to that please? I want to know the details and evidence of that allegation.

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Schiff on “Morning Joe” clearly made a statement that was false. He now says he was answering the wrong question, but if that was the case, he should have quickly corrected the record. He compounded his falsehood by telling reporters a few days later that if not for the IG’s office, the committee would not have known about the complaint. That again suggested there had been no prior communication.

The explanation that Schiff was not sure it was the same whistleblower especially strains credulity.

Schiff earns Four Pinocchios.

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vesper said:

Victor Davis Hanson is right on target. He usually is.

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Fishking said:

I more clueless or ill-informed statement I haven't read in a while. You should inform yourself on matters before you speak on them.

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Q. (Daniel Goldman, Democratic Staffer, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence). And did you think it was appropriate for Vice President Biden to condition the release of the loan guarantees on the firing of Prosecutor General Shokin?

Deputy Asst. Secretary Kent: Prosecutor General Shokin was an impediment to the reform of the prosecutorial system, and he had directly undermined in repeated fashion U.S. efforts and U.S.
assistance programs.

And so, because we had a strategic interest in seeing the Ukrainian prosecutor system reformed, and because we have a fiduciary responsibility for U.S. taxpayer dollars, it was the consensus view that Shokin needed to be removed so that the stated goal of reform of the prosecutor general system could move forward.

Q. And so when you mentioned that that connection was a quid pro quo, you're not saying that that was an improper quid pro quo?

Deputy Asst. Secretary Kent: I didn't say that it was a quid pro quo, but it is the case that both the IMF and the U. S. Government do use conditionality for assistance, whether it is macroeconomic assistance provided by the IMF or, in the case of our sovereign loan guarantees, we put conditionality that related to management of the gas system, meeting macroeconomic stability goals proposed by the IMF, social safety nets, and issues related to anticorruption. And that involved the National Anticorruption Prevention Council, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau, as well as the prosecutor general's office.

Q. Okay. Mr. Malinowski has a few questions.

Rep. Malinowski (D-NJ): Thank you.

Mr. Goldman: One thing.

And just to be clear, what Vice President Biden was doing was very fundamentally different than any advocacy for a politically oriented investigation. Is that your assessment?

Deputy Asst. Secretary Kent: The request for the dismissal of Shokin was related directly to him, to his actions in the diamond prosecutors case, in his undermining of our assistance to Ukraine.

Mr. Goldman: And that's distinct from your concerns that you've raised today about advocacy for an investigation into Biden or the 2016 election?

Deputy Asst. Secretary Kent: That's how I would look at the two issues, as distinct, yes.

Rep. Malinowski (D-NJ): The distinction is between conditionality to advance the national interest and conditionality to advance a personal interest.

Deputy Asst. Secretary Kent: One might say national interest versus partisan interest, yes.

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vesper said:

No there is no proof that the president broke the law, just assumptions. But if you want to investigate something fairly, then you do so in a fair manner. What Shifty has set up is not a fair process.

In fact Shifty was found out to have lied to the American people claiming he did not know who the whistleblower was yet his staff had been in contact with him before he went and filed his complaint. They also directed him to Zaid's law firm for an attorney. A law firm that set up in DC and since Trump was elected have been advertising dirt on Trump.

We all know who the whistleblower is, Eric Ciramella. He was hired by the CIA under John Brennan. He worked for Biden and Rice at the WH on everything Ukraine.

This idea this person claiming whistleblower status protects him from having to testify is bull****. The idea his attorney is nothing more than a highly partisan hack should be concerning.

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vesper said:

The name Eric Ciarmella has been brought up in several articles to be the "whistleblower. His name was even published in papers Shifty released to the public.

If this is indeed the whistleblower, then Shifty and his crew have some real problems.

Shifty said today if anyone during the public hearings exposes the name of the whistleblower, they will face ethics violations.

I believe one way the Republicans during the hearings could put Shifty in the corner is to ask Shifty directly, "Since you and your staff are aware who the whistleblower is and had spoke with him and directed him to Zaid's law firm for an attorney, would you please confirm that the name being mentioned in the media to be the whistleblower are inaccurate? "

:lol:

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Lutherf said:

This is how dishonest -

Here's his letter to the HPSCI minority - https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191112_-_hpsci_chm_memo_to_members_on_open_hearings.pdf

Here is the first paragraph of the 4th page of that memo -


Notice the line about "debunked conspiracies about 2016 election interference...".

Those "conspiracies" are not "debunked". In fact, those "conspiracies" are under investigation by US Attorney, John Durham and a few weeks ago it was announced that those investigations had become criminal rather than administrative.

Schiff has now explicitly prohibited questioning of witnesses in regard to the 2016 election even though that is the basis for Trump's "ask" AND he has stated as the reason for the prohibition that the line of questioning is in regard to a "debunked" theory that is actually under a current investigation.

That is how dishonest Adam Schiff is.

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Lutherf said:

This is how dishonest -

Here's his letter to the HPSCI minority - https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191112_-_hpsci_chm_memo_to_members_on_open_hearings.pdf

Here is the first paragraph of the 4th page of that memo -


Notice the line about "debunked conspiracies about 2016 election interference...".

Those "conspiracies" are not "debunked". In fact, those "conspiracies" are under investigation by US Attorney, John Durham and a few weeks ago it was announced that those investigations had become criminal rather than administrative.

Schiff has now explicitly prohibited questioning of witnesses in regard to the 2016 election even though that is the basis for Trump's "ask" AND he has stated as the reason for the prohibition that the line of questioning is in regard to a "debunked" theory that is actually under a current investigation.

That is how dishonest Adam Schiff is.

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President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days

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3leftsdoo said:

The Schiffer = Democrat Party Goebbels

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Cordelier said:

To be fair, though, nobody really cared about Watergate until the hearings started being televised, either.

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Fishking said:

Ah...how has the Biden claims been debunked beyond people just repeatedly saying "debunked"?

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So there is a reading comprehension issue here, and it's on your part because you did nothing to address what I said.

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Lutherf said:

This is how dishonest -

Here's his letter to the HPSCI minority - https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191112_-_hpsci_chm_memo_to_members_on_open_hearings.pdf

Here is the first paragraph of the 4th page of that memo -


Notice the line about "debunked conspiracies about 2016 election interference...".

Those "conspiracies" are not "debunked". In fact, those "conspiracies" are under investigation by US Attorney, John Durham and a few weeks ago it was announced that those investigations had become criminal rather than administrative.

Schiff has now explicitly prohibited questioning of witnesses in regard to the 2016 election even though that is the basis for Trump's "ask" AND he has stated as the reason for the prohibition that the line of questioning is in regard to a "debunked" theory that is actually under a current investigation.

That is how dishonest Adam Schiff is.

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Lutherf said:

This is how dishonest -

Here's his letter to the HPSCI minority - https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191112_-_hpsci_chm_memo_to_members_on_open_hearings.pdf

Here is the first paragraph of the 4th page of that memo -


Notice the line about "debunked conspiracies about 2016 election interference...".

Those "conspiracies" are not "debunked". In fact, those "conspiracies" are under investigation by US Attorney, John Durham and a few weeks ago it was announced that those investigations had become criminal rather than administrative.

Schiff has now explicitly prohibited questioning of witnesses in regard to the 2016 election even though that is the basis for Trump's "ask" AND he has stated as the reason for the prohibition that the line of questioning is in regard to a "debunked" theory that is actually under a current investigation.

That is how dishonest Adam Schiff is.

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Our system of due process (as codified by this rule) recognizes that it’s unfair for an accuser to use newspapers to claim access to secret evidence of a target’s criminal conduct. This isn’t something that was allowed to happen in past impeachment efforts and Americans should be skeptical of Schiff’s case when he’s not giving the president’s team equal access to the evidence of the supposed “crime.”

What crime? Schiff doesn’t name the crime anywhere in his 940-word vanity piece. Instead, he aggrandizes himself and these hearings that give witch hunts a bad name.

Schiff’s piece efficiently proceeds to deception in just the second sentence: “Americans read for themselves how President Zelensky sought more weapons critical to Ukraine’s defense, and how President Trump responded: ‘I would like you to do us a favor though’ and laid bare his abuse of the power of the presidency.” As Rush Limbaugh might say, “Stop the tape!” Let’s take up Schiff on his request to read the transcript for ourselves.

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trixare4kids said:

I can't wait to read Durham's conclusions of what has now become a criminal investigation. I am betting that Brennan is going down, and from there the rest of the dominoes will tumble. Possibly, faux wb Ciramella included.

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vesper said:

Durham's investigation is deep and wide. Today something in the news verified that once again showing his investigation has expanded.

But heck we are still waiting on the Horowitz report and the wrongdoing he uncovered but the reason it still hasn't been released is because Durham's investigation is now a criminal one and the crimes start with what Horowitz uncovered.

In regard to Ciaramella, everything that has been uncovered about him is all you need to understand why Shiffty is trying to keep him hidden.

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Lutherf said:

This is how dishonest -

Here's his letter to the HPSCI minority - https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20191112_-_hpsci_chm_memo_to_members_on_open_hearings.pdf

Here is the first paragraph of the 4th page of that memo -


Notice the line about "debunked conspiracies about 2016 election interference...".

Those "conspiracies" are not "debunked". In fact, those "conspiracies" are under investigation by US Attorney, John Durham and a few weeks ago it was announced that those investigations had become criminal rather than administrative.

Schiff has now explicitly prohibited questioning of witnesses in regard to the 2016 election even though that is the basis for Trump's "ask" AND he has stated as the reason for the prohibition that the line of questioning is in regard to a "debunked" theory that is actually under a current investigation.

That is how dishonest Adam Schiff is.

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eohrnberger said:

"Shifty said today if anyone during the public hearings exposes the name of the whistleblower, they will face ethics violations."

So Shifty is going to force himself to face ethics violations?

Now why do I have the mental image of Shifty as a vampire with sunlight melting him?

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vesper said:

Durham's investigation is deep and wide. Today something in the news verified that once again showing his investigation has expanded.

But heck we are still waiting on the Horowitz report and the wrongdoing he uncovered but the reason it still hasn't been released is because Durham's investigation is now a criminal one and the crimes start with what Horowitz uncovered.

In regard to Ciaramella, everything that has been uncovered about him is all you need to understand why Shiffty is trying to keep him hidden.

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jnug said:

I suspect you do not even understand the illogic of what you just posted in bold above.

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vesper said:

Your response shows me you have no clue what I was discussing. But hey have a nice day.

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Mr Person said:

I know, but can only hope....

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eohrnberger said:

"Shifty said today if anyone during the public hearings exposes the name of the whistleblower, they will face ethics violations."

So Shifty is going to force himself to face ethics violations?

Now why do I have the mental image of Shifty as a vampire with sunlight melting him?

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eohrnberger said:

"Shifty said today if anyone during the public hearings exposes the name of the whistleblower, they will face ethics violations."

So Shifty is going to force himself to face ethics violations?

Now why do I have the mental image of Shifty as a vampire with sunlight melting him?

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eohrnberger said:

"Shifty said today if anyone during the public hearings exposes the name of the whistleblower, they will face ethics violations."

So Shifty is going to force himself to face ethics violations?

Now why do I have the mental image of Shifty as a vampire with sunlight melting him?

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