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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Problem is Dem senators that actually want convincing evidence would be just as freed to vote their way
    Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!


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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Problem is Dem senators that actually want convincing evidence would be just as freed to vote their way
    That's not a problem, I'd take that risk 100%, immediately. The only reason any Democratic members claim to want some more evidence, is based on their voting district and how much they support Trump, most likely.

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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I like it.
    I don't. The impeachment process is not something to be taken lightly which is why it has taken Trump's actions to build for this long with his corruption, lies and abuse of power for the Dems to act on it.

    People need to be ON RECORD for this. Now I know people being on record will cause the senators (the Republican ones) to be fearful of retribution from the mobster known as Trump and his goons, but this process from both the house and senate need to be all on record for those supporting or not supporting impeachment. Hopefully next time the Republicans put a president in the White House, he won't be a corrupt mob boss like Trump who abuses his power.
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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I like it.



    I bet at least GOP senators like the idea too. I wonder if this gains traction. We can hope, right?

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    I doubt the Democrats will get all 47 Democratic senators to vote for impeachment and removal. There's a good chance Jones, Alabama where Trump has a 60% approval rating and Manchin West Virginia were Trump's approval rating is at 61% will vote against impeachment and removal. Jones is up for reelection in 2020, a vote for impeachment would doom whatever slim chances he had to get reelected. Manchin isn't up, he was in 2018. But voting Nay on impeachment, each Democratic senator would be voting the way the people of their states want them to vote.

    I doubt the secret ballot will get anywhere. There's no way to hold your senators accountable if that happens. It would be government in secrecy with no accountability. I don't think we want to go down that line. Each senator is suppose to represent the people of their state first and foremost. Now we have gotten into our minds that they represent their political party and their party's ideology first and foremost, the people of their state be danged. This is a huge problem as far as I'm concerned. The wants and wishes of the people should come first. Especially the people they are suppose to represent. This concept I think has gotten lost in the partisan's battles between parties over the last 10-20 years.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    There you go...let's make this as open and transparent as we possibly can. That way the public can see we are serious about their wishes.

    I know!! Let's use a secret ballot!!

    They know it's bull****.
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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    There you go...let's make this as open and transparent as we possibly can. That way the public can see we are serious about their wishes.

    I know!! Let's use a secret ballot!!


    "Trump hasn't done anything wrong."

    "The impeachment will quickly die in the Senate."

    "The GOP is fully behind Trump."

    And suddenly the Trump Party is deeply concerned about a secret ballot. Yeah, that makes sense.








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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Sure thing, secret vote. Had no idea it only took 3 Republicans.
    When free to vote their conscience, we know what they should do.

    Of course, the current Senate jury pool that's rabidly partisan, has been telegraphing their group-think and position pre-trial, and is stacked in favor of the defense, is a travesty of any sense of justice.
    Democrats should be raging about that, but they don't, because they are suckers.
    And the idea of a secret vote...even those it's a pipe dream, would be the *least* of the changes necessary to make that farce of a stacked and biased jury, at least have a shred of legitimacy.
    Is there any doubt that the Democrats in the House would vote to impeach and the Democrats in the Senate vote to remove?
    Even with the extremely weak argument presented?

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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    It's a damn good thing for Trump that a bunch of male republicans Senators are gonna lay down for the New York City con man and crook.

    Is this Rome?

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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    I don't. The impeachment process is not something to be taken lightly which is why it has taken Trump's actions to build for this long with his corruption, lies and abuse of power for the Dems to act on it.

    People need to be ON RECORD for this. Now I know people being on record will cause the senators (the Republican ones) to be fearful of retribution from the mobster known as Trump and his goons, but this process from both the house and senate need to be all on record for those supporting or not supporting impeachment. Hopefully next time the Republicans put a president in the White House, he won't be a corrupt mob boss like Trump who abuses his power.
    Yes. Impeachment should not be treated lightly.
    Which is why it is a puzzle we are discussing impeachment when nothing actually happened.

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    Re: Secret Ballot Impeachment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Athanasius68 View Post
    Yes. Impeachment should not be treated lightly.
    Which is why it is a puzzle we are discussing impeachment when nothing actually happened.
    If you want something bad enough, just take it.

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