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Vandalism Of Trump Protest Balloon Raises Questions About Democrats & Free Speech

Visbek said:
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Your claim was already decimated in your own thread on that topic.

If I purchase a flag, then I own it. It does not belong to the state or to you or anyone else. Thus, it is my prerogative to destroy it as an act of political protest, even if that offends you.

In this case, the man damaged an object that he did not own. He had no right to damage it. He was not engaging in free speech, he was vandalizing someone else's property in an attempt to suppress the political speech of someone whose opinion he disliked. See how that works?
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His claim wasn't decimated. That would only be a 10% take down.

His claims were destroyed 100%.

Otherwise I agree. I just have a pet-peeve about "decimated". The word apparently sounds like complete destruction... but it's not.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Were this an Obama, Warren or Biden protest balloon, would Democrats have already found a means of grounding it?

Why use a knife when a political operative is vastly more effective?

We've seen Democrat mayors attempting to extort vast sums from Trump - in one case, 25 times that which was charged Obama - for public events.

And of course the successful attempts in other instances to shut down conservative/right-wing free speech based in "security concerns."

Prohibitive/excessive permit fees are a growing favorite as well.

Macy's Thanksgiving balloons have famously injured and killed in the past; how difficult would it have been for Democrats to use this excuse to ground three-dimensional protest sent aloft by conservative factions?

Conservatives being more practical, honest and hands-on went for a more direct, private-sector approach in expressing their displeasure with this childish taunting device, but what would Democrats have done to quash this free speech?

Inquiring minds are inquiring.
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Burning your own flag is freedom of speech. Burning your neighbors flag is against the law. It is really very simple!!
 
Visbek said:
While I salute your awareness of the original definition, that original meaning seems to have been lost by 1700 (decimated | Search Online Etymology Dictionary).

That said, I feel the same way about the term "tragedy" and, even worse, the term "nice." ;)
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I used to live across from a family of Jehovah's Witnesses. They wouldn't use the phrase "Have a nice day".

Their rationale was that they couldn't know what someone else's idea of a "nice day" might entail.
 
Grand Mal said:
I took a line out of the OP and rebutted it. It's a biggish original post with several points. You don't like me just responding to one line? Tough ****. Go pound sand.
And stop trying to speak for rational people. We don't appreciate it.
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You didn't rebut it. You brought up an entirely different thing. Some people call that a red herring fallacy.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Democrats aren't bad enough?

You have to create imaginary hypothetical universes for them to be bad in as well?
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The OP cites ACTUAL instances of gross Democrat criminality, and also poses a hypothetical.

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3leftsdoo said:
The OP cites ACTUAL instances of gross Democrat criminality, and also poses a hypothetical.
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No, you didn't. Not even close.

By the way, when did you stop beating your wife? Oh, sorry, I meant to make that a hypothetical: If you beat your wife, when do you plan to stop?

Anyway....

• It is not "criminal" to ask a campaign to pay for its security and facilities rentals

• It is not "criminal" to stop an event when there are security concerns (not that you cited any examples btw)

• It is not "criminal" to charge fees for events, municipalities have done this for decades

The actual criminal -- whose actions you excused -- was the man who vandalized the Baby Trump balloon. There is also no doubt that he did so to suppress the speech of the protestors.

And of course, you made no mention of the vice president for Student Affairs at UA threatening any organizations that engaged in "disruptive behavior" during the game with losing their block seats for the rest of the season.

Good luck trying to vandalize these images, by the way....

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rocket88 said:
I also wonder what Stalin woukd have done. Or perhaps Pinochet....Caligula?

But i'm sure the Democrsts would have declated martial law. That's what you wanted to hear right?
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The Democrats are doing what they are doing, and have done what they have done, as cited in the OP.

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Not all democrats...but then...not all republicans.

But do SOME leftists have a real problem with freedom of expression and speech? Sure.







But not EVERY democrat...just like not every republican.
 
JustHanging said:
When you live in a fantasy world, shoulda coulda woulda is all you have.
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Ironic.

But the OP cites actual Democrat criminality.

How odd that no one on the Democrat Party side wants to address that...

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