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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Actually, I've never heard anyone allege any crime, or possible crime, by Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. If you could fill me in that would be awesome. Thanks. It's part of the disconnect here. The story is Joe corruptly (and with the cooperation of Obama, the State dept, ambassador, IMF, UK, reformers in Ukraine, etc.....) pressured Ukraine to fire Shokin to protect Hunter Biden, but we never hear from what prosecution. What crime did Hunter allegedly or possibly commit that put him at prosecutorial risk should Shokin continue the investigation he was not-doing when Joe got him fired?

    I'm dying to know!





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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Things did go wrong....and no one was raising their hand, and saying "my fault"

    We all make mistakes...ALL OF US...the first couple of Benghazi hearing were to determine what happened, and WHY

    After that, you are RIGHT....it was all partisan politics....all of it was theatrics and i didnt agree with it

    But that is my point....The dems and GOP cant seem to do anything but fight....there is no middle ground

    there is no compromise.....no one willing to give an inch to let the other side have any type of win

    There are NO DEALS and therefore NOTHING GETS DONE....DC is BROKEN

    and it makes everyone angry and partisan and fight for their side even harder
    No, it's actually making more and more freshly minted independents, more than anything else.
    No, really...not kidding or exaggerating.

    And God help both parties if anyone ever finally gloms onto the right secret sauce to ignite doing the groundwork and legwork enough to start a wave in both chambers of Congress.

    I look forward to arguing with you in whatever post-Trump era we ever finally arrive at.
    I can guarantee you that this forum will change drastically when that day comes.
    Quote Originally Posted by theliquidguy
    Thats all fine and good,
    BUT THE BOTTOM LINE: POLITICAL BIAS WAS NOT A FACTOR.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Like most of your ilk what you think you know and what you actually DO KNOW are vastly different.


    Sure, fine. Enjoy your little self-delusion.
    That's a collection of words that means nothing. Well, more accurately, it means nothing in relation to me.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Seriously? You're getting all wrapped around the axle about the SIZE of the inauguration crowd? Seriously?
    The mere fact that you act like that was some isolated incident when it's still rolling out the WH damn near everyday is priceless.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    Sorry, read them - nothing even close.
    Why lie?
    If you want something bad enough, just take it.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish Howl View Post
    They can if nobody does or can do anything about it.
    The federal government would definitely act if a state seceded. Then there would be a civil war.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu View Post
    The federal government would definitely act if a state seceded. Then there would be a civil war.
    You think?

    Because I always thought someone who defied a subpoena would be arrested. Can't seem to get that done. A state that just started refusing to obey the federal government would be ignored.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The mods will do that.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalu View Post
    I can't go that far. I decided to forgive all of the Trump voters. I had to in order to restore some peace of mind. A lot of people I know voted for him (not all were uninformed idiots) and I didn't want to hold it against them forever. Now, however, is a different story. I don't excuse anyone who still supports Trump today.
    I'll say this. If anybody voted for Trump because of the right wing spin machine nonsense regarding Hillary Clinton over the past 20 years, then those voters are indeed uninformed. There simply is no moral equivalency between Trump's sins and Clinton's sins. Not even close.

    And I say that as no enthusiastic supporter of Hillary. I backed Sanders in 2016 and I back him now.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish Howl View Post
    You think?

    Because I always thought someone who defied a subpoena would be arrested. Can't seem to get that done. A state that just started refusing to obey the federal government would be ignored.
    I'm still several pages behind in this thread. Decided to read the whole thing. I just read your post to TurtleDude about TX and/or CA. That "gradual secession" idea is interesting. Cannabis has been fascinating for me to watch. States unilaterally decided to blow off the federal prohibition. Administrations from both parties have looked the other way. Sanctuary cities. The failed voter fraud commission. I was imagining a declaration of independence from the US. I think the federal government would definitely intervene with force in that case. But if states keep flying the American flag and just do whatever they want, I can see what you're saying.

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    Re: We are not all cultists or Trumpets

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    no i isnt

    but it also isnt about trying to undo an elecction from 2016

    and some of us see it that way....

    i didnt vote for Trump in 16, but even before he took office there were "trump has to go"

    Now maybe that is because of the idiots before that did the same thing to Obama...turnabout fair play

    That is very possible....but i dont remember people trying to actually remove Obama from office

    But they have been trying from it seems day one with Trump....

    Is he a fraud and a huckster...yep

    Is he a perrenial liar? yep

    Is he a buffoon who has made some egregious errors in foreign policy? yep

    I agree with all of that....

    What i dont agree with is trying to oust a President without a real mandate from the people who elected him

    They will tell you whether or not the evidence is sufficient and warrants impeachment....

    So just show us ALL THE EVIDENCE and let the people make the decision
    Honestly, I am fairly certain that if all of this solely hinged upon nothing but an attempt to undo the election, it would have teetered and fallen over, crushed by its own weight in BS. We are watching the evidentiary process right now, we are watching the entire constitutional process right now.
    For me, it is the second time to see it unfold.

    How many is it for you?
    Quote Originally Posted by theliquidguy
    Thats all fine and good,
    BUT THE BOTTOM LINE: POLITICAL BIAS WAS NOT A FACTOR.

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