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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Making democrats cry is NOT a high crime.

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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    So when you’re under oath during a legal proceeding it’s okay to lie about certain things? Do you have a list of these things for future reference for the next time I’m under oath? Might come in handy.
    Your response has little to do with my prior comment. I did not excuse Pres. Clinton for his lying. I simply said that 10 of the 11 charges could have been reduced to one or two because they were little more than reiterations of the same crime - perjury.

    Can't you read? I wrote that Clinton committed a crime by lying.

    A bit of a change in one charge against Bill and I think it fits a certain individual

    President Trump endeavored to obstruct justice during the Special Counsel's investigation by refusing to testify for two years and instructing senior White House aides with knowledge of the law that they would relay the President's false statements to the Special Counsel -- and did thereby deceive, obstruct, and impede the investigation.
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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    this isnt about criminal guilt....or havent you figured that out yet

    this isnt about whether or not he is a total ass, and making a mockery of the presidency

    if it was JUST ABOUT GUILT slick WIllie would have been impeached and sent packing....he was guilty as hell

    His crimes did not warrant "impeachment and removal" according to the American people

    That is the standard....are Trumps crimes, if you can prove he committed some, agregious enough for the american people to want him booted out of office.....it is a YES or a NO

    they will be the final arbiters of this case....not the congressmen.....not the senators.....but that only happens if a FULL IMPEACHMENT hearing happens....which i am still doubting at this moment
    We both know the GOP does not give two ****s about Trump being a felon. He's not going to be removed from office. This is not the same thing as him being innocent. I'm not interested in whether or not you and your fellow cultists believe he committed crimes. He did what he did.
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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    No Trump threatened to withhold aid until Ukraine announced an investigation into Biden and Clinton, his political adversaries. This had nothing to do with 2016.
    I'm not talking about the democrat whistleblower paraphrase based upon 3rd hand information. I'm talking about what Trump actually said as witnessed in the actual transcript of the phone conversation.

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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Except that Tweety extorted Ukraine to force them to be part of his election effort by withholding congressionally appropriated military aid, and multiple sources confirm it.
    Witnesses who heard about the phone call from Trump-hating 3rd hand parties have agreed with one voice that they think Trump meant to imply a threat supposedly connecting missiles with democrat rumors that Trump pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on the least viable 2020 election candidate. Trump did not say that but that does not stop dummass democrat theorists from reading that into the text.

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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Witnesses who heard about the phone call from Trump-hating 3rd hand parties have agreed with one voice that they think Trump meant to imply a threat supposedly connecting missiles with democrat rumors that Trump pressured Ukraine to dig up dirt on the least viable 2020 election candidate. Trump did not say that but that does not stop dummass democrat theorists from reading that into the text.
    i don't do alt reality. perhaps you'll find someone else, though.

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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    you are NEVER going to impeach Trump with a american consensus poll of 40% for it

    Nancy would NEVER do it.....

    She would lose every purple state and maybe some blue

    If the american people dont want Trump impeached, he wont be impeached

    That is the job ahead for the democrats...convincing John Q Public

    And that is a tall task
    You clearly lack all understanding of what’s happening. Trump will be impeached. The evidence is clear and the Dems already have the votes.

    Whether or not Trump’s removed from office, and which/how many of his sycophants go down with him is what’s left to be determined.
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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    Looks like 3 of the 4 they looked at are not likely so it would come down to obstruction of justice, which would also likely be a no if Nancy is successful in confining it to the phone call. Sure Trump will probably be impeached, but unless there is some evidence that gets people not already against him against him, it will backfire both in the Senate and in the election.
    Wishful thinking. I can see absolutely no good coming out of this for republicans.
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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by RaleBulgarian View Post
    You clearly lack all understanding of what’s happening. Trump will be impeached. The evidence is clear and the Dems already have the votes.

    Whether or not Trump’s removed from office, and which/how many of his sycophants go down with him is what’s left to be determined.
    You say that with the knowledge and foresight as if it had already happened

    nancy having the votes, and USING the votes is two different things....as soon as the impeachment vote happens, she puts 30 odd seats at risk in the house....and she knows it....which is why she is very wary of doing so

    It hasnt....and it may not

    You understand that possibility....right?

    And saying i lack the understanding of what is happening? I am not saying it WONT happen....but i would give you odds it wont happen in 2019.....and may not happen at all....
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    Re: High Crimes And Misdemeanors

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Impeachment of Bill Clinton - Wikipedia

    Article III charged Clinton with attempting to obstruct justice in the Jones case by:[27]

    encouraging Lewinsky to file a false affidavit

    encouraging Lewinsky to give false testimony if and when she was called to testify

    concealing gifts he had given to Lewinsky that had been subpoenaed

    attempting to secure a job for Lewinsky to influence her testimony

    permitting his lawyer to make false statements characterizing Lewinsky's affidavit

    attempting to tamper with the possible testimony of his secretary Betty Currie

    making false and misleading statements to potential grand jury witnesses
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