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I know there are Tea Party people here. Why have you guys gone silent?

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It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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The deficit and debt only mattered between January 20th 2009 to January 20th 2017, I'm not sure what happened on those dates to change that but those deficit hawks sure did go quiet.

Between those two dates it was an issue that:

"HAD TO BE SOLVED RIGHT THIS SECOND BECAUSE HE'S SPENDING LIKE A DRUNKEN SAILOR RAR!!!!!"
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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The scary black man is gone.
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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The tea party has been silent because tea is one of the things that Trump imposed tariffs on and the party has been drinking less tea.
 
Luckyone said:
The tea party has been silent because tea is one of the things that Trump imposed tariffs on and the party has been drinking less tea.
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so its like the midwest tea party instead of the boston tea party this time.
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?
My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.
And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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It's not just this political forum.
In other forums I visit, a notable number of posters have gone quiet in the Trump years.
Imho, the ones who have gone quiet tend to be the ones who generally supported conservatism and the GOP and who could make a coherent argument. They could carry on a debate about a topic for multiple posts w/o getting distracted or name calling.
I suspect that a number of these people have trouble supporting various Trumpco escapades.
So, they don't.
 
The tea party was always primarily about race and the same angry white resentment that drives Trumpstersism.

If you’ve been on one of these bulletin boards over the years, you’ll easily recognize that the people who were hard core Bushies, migrated instantly to tea party, and are now Trumpsters.

The themes don’t change. Only the cover story.

I went to a couple of tea party events to see what they were really like, as opposed to what’s on cable TV.

Live was worse.

There was no doubt whatsoever that the primary motivator of most of the crowd was fear and resentment that a black man was in the White House. It was number one with a bullet. All the “taxed enough already” drivel generally got an “oh yeah, that too!” Response.
 
TomFitz said:
The tea party was always primarily about race and the same angry white resentment that drives Trumpstersism.

If you’ve been on one of these bulletin boards over the years, you’ll easily recognize that the people who were hard core Bushies, migrated instantly to tea party, and are now Trumpsters.

The themes don’t change. Only the cover story.

I went to a couple of tea party events to see what they were really like, as opposed to what’s on cable TV.

Live was worse.

There was no doubt whatsoever that the primary motivator of most of the crowd was fear and resentment that a black man was in the White House. It was number one with a bullet. All the “taxed enough already” drivel generally got an “oh yeah, that too!” Response.
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The biggest innovation in racism over the last 20 years was learning how to hide it under plausible deniability. That veneer is starting to crack as well :shrug:
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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It was all about the president being Black.
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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No, it was about bailouts and taxation. And its hard to keep up outrage for long. Look at Occupy Wall Street or Black Lives Matter or Code Pink. Is Wall Street suddenly gone, war, or cops shooting people? Not sure why this criticism keeps coming up. NO ONE cares about debt and deficit.
 
CaughtInThe said:
It really wasn't about the deficit or debt was it?

My guess is that an extremely high % of people that were either part of the Tea Party or very sympathetic to their "cause" are also birthers.

And yes, I know that isn't groundbreaking news.
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Another punk ass race baiting thread. DP ought to be ashamed for letting this stay upstairs.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
It's not just this political forum.
In other forums I visit, a notable number of posters have gone quiet in the Trump years.
Imho, the ones who have gone quiet tend to be the ones who generally supported conservatism and the GOP and who could make a coherent argument. They could carry on a debate about a topic for multiple posts w/o getting distracted or name calling.
I suspect that a number of these people have trouble supporting various Trumpco escapades.
So, they don't.
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Another side of the coin is that the vitriol, attacks and unmitigated hatred has gotten so repulsive that it's just not worth facing the **** storm from unhinged people.
 
jonny5 said:
No, it was about bailouts and taxation. And its hard to keep up outrage for long. Look at Occupy Wall Street or Black Lives Matter or Code Pink. Is Wall Street suddenly gone, war, or cops shooting people? Not sure why this criticism keeps coming up. NO ONE cares about debt and deficit.
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Well, they did for 8 years.
 
WCH said:
Another punk ass race baiting thread. DP ought to be ashamed for letting this stay upstairs.
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nah...let them have their little circle jerk parties

they are so far into the weeds....i almost feel sorry for them
 
tacomancer said:
The biggest innovation in racism over the last 20 years was learning how to hide it under plausible deniability. That veneer is starting to crack as well :shrug:
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Well, the angry denials take up a lot of energy. Particularly when concurrent behavior undermines them.

The tea party had their fake “taxed enough already” meme. They didn’t seem to notice that the Obama Administration did not raise taxes.

The Trumpster crowd tries to wrap their bigotry in the flag and pretend that real america is the product of white nationalism. Which has a distinct National Socialist sound to it.

But then, the white supremacists who staged the torchlight parade in the UVA Campus in Charlottesville were well aware that they were channeling the Nuremberg rallies with their image and messenging, even as they angrily denied it when asked.
 
Acadia said:
Another side of the coin is that the vitriol, attacks and unmitigated hatred has gotten so repulsive that it's just not worth facing the **** storm from unhinged people.
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I suppose you could be right that these folks may have suddenly and unexpectedly turned into wimps

However, my impression is that these folks are plenty tough enough to handle reading words in an internet message board.
ymmv
 
Simon W. Moon said:
I suppose you could be right that these folks may have suddenly and unexpectedly turned into wimps

However, my impression is that these folks are plenty tough enough to handle reading words in an internet message board.
ymmv
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Reading? Yes, however, why would any TP person hang out on a board where they are VASTLY outnumbered and automatically pilloried for posting their thoughts and opinions?
 
Acadia said:
Reading? Yes, however, why would any TP person hang out on a board where they are VASTLY outnumbered and automatically pilloried for posting their thoughts and opinions?
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What's a TP person?[\s]nvm

A number of folks remain to defend Trump. They just aren't the folks I am talking about.
 
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Simon W. Moon said:
It's not just this political forum.
In other forums I visit, a notable number of posters have gone quiet in the Trump years.
Imho, the ones who have gone quiet tend to be the ones who generally supported conservatism and the GOP and who could make a coherent argument. They could carry on a debate about a topic for multiple posts w/o getting distracted or name calling.
I suspect that a number of these people have trouble supporting various Trumpco escapades.
So, they don't.
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I imagine the more intelligent among them are embarrassed above all else. Once they discovered what a hopeless proposition Trump was they shut up. I would too, wouldn't you? Who on earth would willingly want to be associated with that idiotic man, however distantly?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
What's a TP person?[\s]nvm

A number of folks remain to defend Trump. They just aren't the folks I am talking about.
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TP- Tea Party. I just think the overwhelming amount of ugliness from the Trump haters has led to many Tea Party and Trump supporters to go underground. In a country where wearing a MAGA hat could trigger a physical assault, it's increasingly prudent to keep to one's self.
 
jonny5 said:
No. As I said, the tea party was loosely about opposing bailing out homeowners. Not debt. After the 2012 election where they managed to knock off a few partisan Republicans, they faded away.

5 years later, Rick Santelli '''tea party''' rant revisited
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No,

The tea party was an orchestrated public relations campaign run and coordinated by right wing activists, and K street lobbying shops.

Every single national tea party group, except one was run from K street. All of them were fronts for lobbying and public relations practices.

It appeared instantly. None of the rubes wondered where the money came from. How the websites and printed literature instantly appeared. Who chartered the busses. Or where the activists who trained them how to disrupt town hall meetings came from.

They just bought the message. Which was pure racism disguised in traditional nativist small government rhetoric.

As I noted earlier. I went to a couple of these “grass roots” events. The right wing true believers were all there. So was the open bigotry.

The tea party was intended to get right wing voters to the polls for the 2010 mid term elections.

The day after that election, tea party money dried up. Websites went dark. Rallies stopped. The charter busses and the operatives who hired them all disappeared.

And all that was left was the tri corner hats sitting on shelves next to the MAGA hats.

It is the same group of people.
 
Acadia said:
TP- Tea Party. I just think the overwhelming amount of ugliness from the Trump haters has led to many Tea Party and Trump supporters to go underground. In a country where wearing a MAGA hat could trigger a physical assault, it's increasingly prudent to keep to one's self.
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I doubt that the folks I am talking about have become chickens in the past few ears.

But maybe you're right. Maybe Trump supporters are cowed and afraid to even show up on internet message boards.

Seems counter to the evidence and improbable though.


There seem to be plenty of Trump supporters online.
 
jonny5 said:
No, it was about bailouts and taxation. And its hard to keep up outrage for long. Look at Occupy Wall Street or Black Lives Matter or Code Pink. Is Wall Street suddenly gone, war, or cops shooting people? Not sure why this criticism keeps coming up. NO ONE cares about debt and deficit.
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How much ya wanna bet that they start complaining the minute a democrat becomes president?
 
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