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    Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Dem Willie Brown penned OP in San Francisco Chronicle


    If the goal was to damage President Trump by formalizing the impeachment inquiry, it's Mission Unaccomplished for House Democrats.

    If anything, the vote solidified Trump's hold on power. There were zero GOP defections, meaning we have zero drama heading into the public phase of impeachment. Everyone is pretty much in the same lanes they've been in since the Russian-collusion investigation, the obstruction of justice investigation and every other investigation.

    Unfortunately for the Democrats, that gives people little reason to be glued to their screens when House committees take public testimony. The basic story -Trump pressured Ukraine to announce investigations into Democrats that would help Trump -is out there already. People know how they feel about it, and if you believe the polls, they're pretty evenly split on whether the president deserves to be thrown out of office.

    Willie Brown is trying to educate his fellow Dems....impeachment narrative is weak and failing....those in DC are blinded by TDS

    I remember when Willie was Mayor of San Francisco...I always liked him...tough but fair




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    According to NBC, Justice Department officials have said that Durham has found something significant, and that critics should be careful.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

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    Dem Willie Brown penned OP in San Francisco Chronicle

    Willie Brown is trying to educate his fellow Dems....impeachment narrative is weak and failing....those in DC are blinded by TDS

    I remember when Willie was Mayor of San Francisco...I always liked him...tough but fair

    Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don’t bet on it - SFChronicle.com
    I mean if you wanted any credibility at all why would you even consider Adam Schiff? The guy who said he had conclusive evidence of Trump being a planted Russian Agent. Now he's running the investigation?

    What a scam. I can't wait for a public hearing.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    I feel like every story I have heard about Trump's behavior since the time he announced his candidacy is basically conservative America shouting from the rooftops how little they care about anything.

    About the mocking of the disabled.
    About a draft dodger questioning the heroism of POWs.
    About 13.5 lies per day.
    About the separation of children from their parents without any attempt made to collect the information needed to one day reunify.
    About peddling racism.
    About destroying the lives of career public officials who dare to tell the truth.

    We get it. Half of America could watch Donald Trump pull out a gun and murder someone on live TV in front of the White House and not care. Great. It says a great deal about them and their values. I'm tired of hearing about how little truth, reality, and basic human decency matter to Republicans. Just as I will be beyond tired when they bring out the old social con playbook the moment Trump is no longer in officer. They are bad people who can be counted to act in bad faith no matter the issue. The only saving grace is that they are older and have slightly less of a stranglehold on the country with each passing day.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Excast View Post
    I feel like every story I have heard about Trump's behavior since the time he announced his candidacy is basically conservative America shouting from the rooftops how little they care about anything.

    About the mocking of the disabled.
    About a draft dodger questioning the heroism of POWs.
    About 13.5 lies per day.
    About the separation of children from their parents without any attempt made to collect the information needed to one day reunify.
    About peddling racism.
    About destroying the lives of career public officials who dare to tell the truth.

    We get it. Half of America could watch Donald Trump pull out a gun and murder someone on live TV in front of the White House and not care. Great. It says a great deal about them and their values. I'm tired of hearing about how little truth, reality, and basic human decency matter to Republicans. Just as I will be beyond tired when they bring out the old social con playbook the moment Trump is no longer in officer. They are bad people who can be counted to act in bad faith no matter the issue. The only saving grace is that they are older and have slightly less of a stranglehold on the country with each passing day.
    For every negative against Trump and the republicans I can give a negative example of the actions of the left. Give it a rest and go out and vote next year.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlook View Post
    For every negative against Trump and the republicans I can give a negative example of the actions of the left. Give it a rest and go out and vote next year.
    There is nothing more intellectually lazy and self righteous than a "both sides" independent trying to talk themselves into why Democrats are jUsT aS bAd as Donald Trump.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Excast View Post
    I feel like every story I have heard about Trump's behavior since the time he announced his candidacy is basically conservative America shouting from the rooftops how little they care about anything.

    About the mocking of the disabled.
    About a draft dodger questioning the heroism of POWs.
    About 13.5 lies per day.
    About the separation of children from their parents without any attempt made to collect the information needed to one day reunify.
    About peddling racism.
    About destroying the lives of career public officials who dare to tell the truth.

    We get it. Half of America could watch Donald Trump pull out a gun and murder someone on live TV in front of the White House and not care. Great. It says a great deal about them and their values. I'm tired of hearing about how little truth, reality, and basic human decency matter to Republicans. Just as I will be beyond tired when they bring out the old social con playbook the moment Trump is no longer in officer. They are bad people who can be counted to act in bad faith no matter the issue. The only saving grace is that they are older and have slightly less of a stranglehold on the country with each passing day.
    Focus on OP......Willie Brown

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    According to NBC, Justice Department officials have said that Durham has found something significant, and that critics should be careful.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Dem Willie Brown penned OP in San Francisco Chronicle

    Willie Brown is trying to educate his fellow Dems....impeachment narrative is weak and failing....those in DC are blinded by TDS

    I remember when Willie was Mayor of San Francisco...I always liked him...tough but fair




    Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don’t bet on it - SFChronicle.com
    Evening Trump. I personally believe this Impeachment fiasco is going to blow up in the face of the Democrats. Trump was seeking information of corruption in the Ukraine government that occurred leading up to our 2016 election where evidence we already possess they were in bed with people from the DNC, and members of the Obama administration and Democratic special interests groups to undermine the Trump campaign and help Hillary Clinton. The Ukraine government courts have already declared that the government under the leadership of Poroshenko did indeed interfere with our 2016 elections to benefit Hillary Clinton. Biden unfortunately for him happens to be part of the whole charade.

    I noticed after the whistleblower was outed in Conservative media, his ties are to Ukraine, Biden, Brennan, Susan Rice, and the same person at the DNC that was working with members of Ukraine government under Poroshenko, Alexandra Chalupa.

    Vindman, who listened in on the phone call, said he believed it was improper for Trump to ask Zelensky to investigate whether Ukrainian officials interfered in the 2016 election and also to investigate whether former Vice President Joe Biden pressured Ukrainian officials to shut down an investigation of Burisma Holdings. It was also leaked he feared that Trump would withhold military aid to Ukraine. Well that struck me as being odd so I did a little digging. Vindman was a big enchilada in the Obama administration in regard to Ukraine and in those 8 years no military aid was given to Ukraine. The aid the Obama administration sent amounted to blankets and pillows. Trump actually did provide Ukraine with for real military equipment.

    Both the whistleblower and Vindman are Obama holdovers. I believe both are well aware of the corruption that occurred in Ukraine via our own government and they were involved in it. I also believe they saw where Trump was poking around and that now that Barr has turned over the investigation to John Durham now calling it a criminal investigation is also investigating what happened in Ukraine at that time. A couple of months ago there were reports that a couple of Ukrainians were wanting to get to the U.S. with information of Americans that they believed broke U.S. law in their involvement in Ukraine in regard to corruption. Our ambassador to Ukraine at the time, Marie Yovanovitch, another Obama holdover who gave testimony to Shifty's kangaroo court, the Ukrainians with the information claim she denied them visas to come to the states. Trump this year I believe in May relieved Yovanovitch of her duties. Shortly after that the Ukrainians did receive visas, came to the states and who took their deposition? John Durham.

    At this point, personally, whatever the left accuses Trump of doing, they in fact are guilty of it. This week I think we can expect Horowitz's report released. I believe in that report we will learn why Durham changed his investigation into a criminal one.

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Dem Willie Brown penned OP in San Francisco Chronicle





    Willie Brown is trying to educate his fellow Dems....impeachment narrative is weak and failing....those in DC are blinded by TDS

    I remember when Willie was Mayor of San Francisco...I always liked him...tough but fair




    Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don’t bet on it - SFChronicle.com
    It's interesting to watch you guys claim the president should be able to break our laws with impunity and that congress has no right to oversight, all of which you'll drop immediately when the next Dem president is elected.

    Why do you guys hate our Constitution and our laws so much?

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Trump View Post
    Dem Willie Brown penned OP in San Francisco Chronicle

    Willie Brown is trying to educate his fellow Dems....impeachment narrative is weak and failing....those in DC are blinded by TDS

    I remember when Willie was Mayor of San Francisco...I always liked him...tough but fair
    Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don’t bet on it - SFChronicle.com
    Isn't Willie Brown the democrat donkey Kamala rode to the top of the democrat compost pile?

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    Re: Impeachment a winner for Democrats? Don't bet on it

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    It's interesting to watch you guys claim the president should be able to break our laws with impunity and that congress has no right to oversight, all of which you'll drop immediately when the next Dem president is elected.

    Why do you guys hate our Constitution and our laws so much?
    Why? Simple; if it's ok for Trump to lead the US over a constitutional and legal cliff, it's just fine by his lemmings.
    Proud to be a godless heathen.

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