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    A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    I believe conservatism is dead or dying. Few can define it, and the right-leaning population actually doesn't seem to care. I think conservatism will be replaced with right-wing nationalist populism, if it hasn't been already, combined with far-left economic populism.

    The modern conservative movement, having burned through traditional conservatism, neo-conservatism, neo-liberalism, and right-leaning libertarianism... will merge religious, ethnic, and social conservatism with left-leaning economic populism. It will be a farce; a con job; but I fear it will bleed or blur over into the progressive agenda in the way that secular atheism has been adopted by the Alt Right and Alt Light. The new modus operandi of the right isn't a battle of ideas, it's a subversive gateway infiltration into more successful populist ideologies.

    The general population of any nation is more populist than anything. There is good populism, which appeals to the common interests and well-being of the people, and a bad populism, which appeals to common fears and bigotries of the people.

    Donald Trump is just a taste of this; a preview of things to come. He's a fake populist with a corporate agenda. I fear that the real threat is from a merging of the far right with the populist left.
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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    One thing is for certain, nobody knows what a conservative stands for these days. All of the things they say they stand for they crap all over. I think a conservative is a combination of hating anything liberal and religion, period. Conservatism is the dream of how the fifties used to be. One in three people had union jobs, the standard of living was rising and all was good in america and god was alive and well..and now that's long gone but yet the dream still persists.
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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    One thing is for certain, nobody knows what a conservative stands for these days. All of the things they say they stand for they crap all over. I think a conservative is a combination of hating anything liberal and religion, period. Conservatism is the dream of how the fifties used to be. One in three people had union jobs, the standard of living was rising and all was good in america and god was alive and well..and now that's long gone but yet the dream still persists.
    A good example of how quickly the right-wing can shift ideological focus: the turn on the Iraq Invasion. How many people who worshiped and supported the Bush/Cheney agenda are now singing its praise? Almost none. Rather, the exact same people who supported Bush/Cheney are now the most outspoken non-interventionists.

    I can almost predict to the person those who hate so-called socialism will be singing its praise when a far-right anti-immigrant, anti-diversity candidate adopts similar policies.
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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Conservative - Small government.

    Liberal - Big government.

    Easy peasy.

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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    One thing is for certain, nobody knows what a conservative stands for these days. All of the things they say they stand for they crap all over. I think a conservative is a combination of hating anything liberal and religion, period. Conservatism is the dream of how the fifties used to be. One in three people had union jobs, the standard of living was rising and all was good in america and god was alive and well..and now that's long gone but yet the dream still persists.
    All was good in America in the 50s if you happened to be a white male. Black or some other minority not so much.
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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    A good example of how quickly the right-wing can shift ideological focus: the turn on the Iraq Invasion. How many people who worshiped and supported the Bush/Cheney agenda are now singing its praise? Almost none. Rather, the exact same people who supported Bush/Cheney are now the most outspoken non-interventionists.

    I can almost predict to the person those who hate so-called socialism will be singing its praise when a far-right anti-immigrant, anti-diversity candidate adopts similar policies.
    Yes people can to a degree resemble a heard of sheep, and be turned this way and that.

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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Conservatism now is hate liberals and Democrats and push for Republican view on social issues(hate gays, immigrants, etc.).. That's, it..

    There are no longer fiscal conservatives. They no longer are 'law and order'. They use to respect and honor the military. Just look how they treated McCain and we can see that's out the window now.. They use to say they'd die to protect the Constitution. Now the only amendment they care about is the 2nd amendment. Now they cheer as Trump and his yes-men wipe their asses with the Constitution.

    Today's conservatives have bastardize the conservative movement.
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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Conservative - Small government.

    Liberal - Big government.

    Easy peasy.
    Liberal... Submissive to the UN.

    Conservative... Lead by example.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Conservative - Small government.

    Liberal - Big government.

    Easy peasy.
    Not even remotely true and hasn't been for decades.
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    Re: A post-Conservative America could be scary...

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Conservative - Small government.

    Liberal - Big government.

    Easy peasy.


    Conservative/Republican admins in modern history have expanded government in terms of spending more than have liberal/Dem. All you do is ignorantly perpetuate the big lie or know the fact of the matter and lie yourself. Trump has done the same. Even with employment. Sleazy-peazy.

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