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    Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump


    Pompeo and Trump. Their actions are gutting the US State Department.

    10/21/19
    The Trump administration's perennial push for steep budget cuts, an exodus of senior staffers with decades of experience and constant allegations that agency employees represent a deep state has sent morale at the State Department to an unprecedented low. On top of that, President Trump has fired a senior diplomat after a whisper campaign mounted by his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and abandoned steadfast allies in the Middle East to fend for themselves on the battlefield at the behest of Turkey's government. Current and former diplomats say the weight of those events is taking a startling and measurable toll on American foreign relations, and on their ability to carry out policy set by the White House. Those diplomats are increasingly concerned that the White House and senior State Department leadership do not have their backs, particularly after Trump’s allies launched a whisper campaign that ended in the recall of Marie Yovanovitch as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. They also worry the president’s decision to withdraw American troops from northern Syria — abandoning longtime Kurdish allies who fought the war against the Islamic State — will cause other allies to think twice about partnering with the United States.

    “We have squandered our global leadership, alienated our friends and emboldened our enemies,” said one U.S. ambassador, who asked not to be named to provide a candid assessment. Morale in recent weeks, the ambassador said, “is at a new low, although I am not sure it could fall much lower than where it has been for the past three years.” In interviews, half a dozen current and former senior foreign service officers said the last few weeks have undermined what little faith they had left in Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, one of Trump’s closest advisers. Pompeo’s alliance with Trump has come at the cost of his reputation with career officials. He was on the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, when Trump promised that Yovanovitch was “going to go through some things.” On Wednesday, Pompeo’s former top aide, Michael McKinley, told House lawmakers that Pompeo did nothing when McKinley urged him to offer Yovanovitch a show of public support. “Here’s a U.S. ambassador pushing a major U.S. policy platform, fighting corruption. We all knew Ukraine’s only chance was to get a handle on the corruption going on in that country,” said the former ambassador who spoke to The Hill. “We’re no longer the shining city on the hill. We’ve been out there espousing American values, and then we come home to see America isn’t espousing American values,” the former ambassador said. “You cannot go overseas and lecture a partner nation on corruption when you’ve got this going on with the president’s sons. When people are currying favor with the White House by first and foremost booking themselves into the Trump Hotel in Washington, D.C.”
    Stinging rebukes. Trump and Pompeo stabbed a career US Ambassador in the back, then stabbed a close US Middle East ally in the back.

    Senior diplomats at Foggy Bottom have had enough of this crapping on our allies, cozying up to dictators, and incessant demands of personal loyalty to Trump.


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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    will cause other allies to think twice about partnering with the United States. (I seriously doubt it)

    who asked not to be named (This is why the whole article is crap)

    cozying up to dictators (Not true)

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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump


    Pompeo and Trump. Their actions are gutting the US State Department.



    Stinging rebukes. Trump and Pompeo stabbed a career US Ambassador in the back, then stabbed a close US Middle East ally in the back.

    Senior diplomats at Foggy Bottom have had enough of this crapping on our allies, cozying up to dictators, and incessant demands of personal loyalty to Trump.
    Not only an all-time low at the State Dept. but the Pentagon and military troops out in the field that are seeing a not-before-seen morale problem among rank and file of the military, in addition to the heads of armed services in the Pentagon.










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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump


    Pompeo and Trump. Their actions are gutting the US State Department.



    Stinging rebukes. Trump and Pompeo stabbed a career US Ambassador in the back, then stabbed a close US Middle East ally in the back.

    Senior diplomats at Foggy Bottom have had enough of this crapping on our allies, cozying up to dictators, and incessant demands of personal loyalty to Trump.
    That "career US Ambassador" was an Obama holdover who was working as if Obama was still President. She couldn't get on board with the new administration...and she lost her job. Too ****ing bad.

    That "close US Middle East ally" wasn't as close as the Trump haters want to make them. We helped them...and they helped us...rid their homes of ISIS. In the process, we spent millions of OUR dollars on them. The job got done. Time for both parties to move on.
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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps2000 View Post
    will cause other allies to think twice about partnering with the United States. (I seriously doubt it)

    who asked not to be named (This is why the whole article is crap)

    cozying up to dictators (Not true)
    Yes, certainly 'cozying up to dictators' is exactly what he's been doing all along. Trump has cozied up to Erdogan, cozied up to Mohammed bin Salman, Kim Jong-un, Rodrigo Duterte and Vladimir Putin.










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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    That "career US Ambassador" was an Obama holdover who was working as if Obama was still President. She couldn't get on board with the new administration...and she lost her job. Too ****ing bad.

    That "close US Middle East ally" wasn't as close as the Trump haters want to make them. We helped them...and they helped us...rid their homes of ISIS. In the process, we spent millions of OUR dollars on them. The job got done. Time for both parties to move on.
    Maria Yovanovitch was nominated to the post of Ambassador to Ukraine by Donald Trump in May, 2016. Yovanovitch joined the U.S. foreign service in 1986 when Ronald Reagan was president. She served under Reagan, George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

    So, no she was not an "Obama holdover" by any stretch of the imagination. You're comment is entirely erroneous and made up out of your own mind.










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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Maria Yovanovitch was nominated to the post of Ambassador to Ukraine by Donald Trump in May, 2016. Yovanovitch joined the U.S. foreign service in 1986 when Ronald Reagan was president. She served under Reagan, George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

    So, no she was not an "Obama holdover" by any stretch of the imagination. You're comment is entirely erroneous and made up out of your own mind.
    Probably what Fox News is telling him.

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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump


    Pompeo and Trump. Their actions are gutting the US State Department.



    Stinging rebukes. Trump and Pompeo stabbed a career US Ambassador in the back, then stabbed a close US Middle East ally in the back.

    Senior diplomats at Foggy Bottom have had enough of this crapping on our allies, cozying up to dictators, and incessant demands of personal loyalty to Trump.
    You mean Obama's deep state doesn't like Trump? Who wooda ever thunk.

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    Re: Diplomats describe all-time low in morale at State under Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    That "career US Ambassador" was an Obama holdover who was working as if Obama was still President. She couldn't get on board with the new administration...and she lost her job. Too ****ing bad.

    That "close US Middle East ally" wasn't as close as the Trump haters want to make them. We helped them...and they helped us...rid their homes of ISIS. In the process, we spent millions of OUR dollars on them. The job got done. Time for both parties to move on.
    False narrative, while she was held over from Obama, she was also held over from the George W. Bush admin. So while she was a hold over, she was not an Obama apointee. Which basically means she could work with just about anyone from say George W. Bush to Barak H. Obama. But not Trump. Gee, wonder why, maybe because she was a staunch anti-corruption person and wasn't willing to be a willing participant in corruption?
    Yeah, burn her at the ****ing stake for being a heretic.

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