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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Looks like they will. Sleep contentedly that we will likely pay more now. We will see in the end.
    Sometimes being ethical and obeying the law costs more. I can accept that.

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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No surprise here. The truth is the opposite of what Trump said.

    The reason Trump dropped his Florida resort as the next G7 venue is the opposite to the one he tweeted



    I'm not even sure this guy can speak the truth. I can't recall a single instance when he spoke without some form of distortion or exaggeration of what the facts really said.
    Strange that didn't stop him from withdrawing the support troops from Syria. There must have been another reason trump backed off on the Doral boondoggle. The fear of infecting world leaders with bedbugs?

    Who knows?
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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Maybe this is a dumb question but if doing the G7 at Doral could be done for less money than doing it elsewhere (comparable elsewhere. I'm not talking about doing it at the Holiday Inn on the south side) would it still be a problem for you guys?
    Yes, as it would bother me if a Democratic president tried something like that. It's a huge conflict of interest. And besides - who would know if it was done at cost - because the trump administration claims it is - yeah, why would they lie?
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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post
    Yes, it would be problem. Trump owns the place and no doubt saw an opportunity for some easy money. That would constitute both a huge conflict of interests and a violation of the emoluments legislation-unless, of course, Trump suddenly got an attack of generosity and offered the place for free.
    He was also motivated by having images and information of and about his property broadcast worldwide. The free advertising was the major motivator.
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    That this is called a "lie" is indicative. Do you think Republicans would have objected if Democrats and Democrats in the media hadn't gotten their panties in a twist?
    Trump didn't care what Democrats in the media thought unfortunately some Republicans still do. Providing cover for wobbly Republicans isn't a lie. Blaming them wouldn't have been either but what purpose would that serve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    How the heck does doing something at cost "enrich" someone? If it costs you $500 to do a certain job and you charge $500 to your customer how much were you "enriched"?
    Because again, Trump can't be trusted that it cost $500. He's already known to inflate numbers as well as deflate them so it makes him money. So he tells you it cost $500 to do something and he shows you the estimate. What he doesn't show you is the second estimate that is $250. So did you pay the at cost $500 and think he made nothing? No, you paid $250 for whatever the item/service was and you gave him $250. This is what happens when you deal with a con man. Art of the deal!

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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Maybe this is a dumb question but if doing the G7 at Doral could be done for less money than doing it elsewhere (comparable elsewhere. I'm not talking about doing it at the Holiday Inn on the south side) would it still be a problem for you guys?
    It is.

    If you are writing a guideline on ethical practices for politicians, the first thing you'd right down is that politicians shouldn't give themselves government contracts.

    If we elect the owner of a car dealership as the next president, he shouldn't give his dealership a contract to supply the federal government with cars, even if he thinks he can get them a better price. But in reality, what we have here with Trump, was them saying "the government will buy all of it's cars from the presidents dealerships, which we will get a great price on, but we will not let anybody see the selection process or any of the work that we did to determine that it's the best price." It's filthy from the top to the bottom.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    Yes, as it would bother me if a Democratic president tried something like that. It's a huge conflict of interest. And besides - who would know if it was done at cost - because the trump administration claims it is - yeah, why would they lie?
    Exactly.

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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Maybe this is a dumb question but if doing the G7 at Doral could be done for less money than doing it elsewhere (comparable elsewhere. I'm not talking about doing it at the Holiday Inn on the south side) would it still be a problem for you guys?
    Doesn't matter to the politically insane here. If Trump suggested, or actually did it - whatever it is - it's bad. It's so easy to do. No thought is required at all.

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    Re: G7 Fiasco, Trump Lied Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    If his company can pull off the job as effectively and at lower cost than the competition then it’s STILL a good deal for the taxpayer.
    It's like one of those little pictures in the dictionary. Look up "corruption" and you could find "high government official profiting from government contracts" used as an example.
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