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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Wow. Way to completely misinterpret what your friend was saying. You should really leave whats 'in the mind of a conservative' to someone who knows what they hell they are talking about. Because you havent got a clue.
    We can only go by what they say.

    Remember those 2009 Tea Party placards "Stop socialized medicine and keep your hands off my Medicare!" ?

    It sounds like these are just uneducated people just being whipped up by Fox News.

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    Your story shows that there are stupid conservatives. But have you noticed there are stupid progressives/liberals also?
    To answer your question I submit the following quote.
    The two most common things in the universe, are hydrogen and stupidity. -Harlan Ellison
    (later tweaked by Zappa) to include "and stupidity has a longer shelf life".

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    1. Notice I mention GROWING income inequality. I have no problem with the reality that some are richer than others. I have a problem with the inequality growing continually. Money is also power. So we also have a growing inequality of power. That's not a problem to you?

    2. You say you care about the environment but I don't see this concern in any conservative platforms. It seems you don't agree with conservatives on this issue.

    3. In other words, you don't care about discrimination. It would be great if we only disagreed on how to deal with discrimination. It would be great if conservatives had some alternative approach. But it's just denial and indifference.

    4. Studies have shown that Black and Whites use marijuana at the same rate that Blacks are far far more likely to be in prison for the same thing. Moreover, many minorities are in prison solely because they cannot afford bail or cannot afford to pay fines. Is that not injustice?

    5. So you don't care that poor sick people die. Got it.

    6. Poorly educated poor people is "just economic reality" but you don't want to do anything to change it. Moreover, a better educated society helps the entire society and reduces poverty.


    Is there any injustice in society that is affecting other that you care about. I'm not poor. I have no reason to care about poor people without healthcare or those who can't afford an education. But I care about those who are less fortunate or others facing injustices.

    Are there people outside of yourself and your own group that you feel are being treated unfairly?
    Growing...who cares? As long as they arent stealing from you oppressing you, all you are doing is whining about YOUR ineptitude. There is no injustice.

    2-Do you see a conservative platform that says "**** on the environment"? No...what you do is swallow a ridiculous bull**** leftist rhetoric that says evil republicans dont care...and thats good enough for you.

    3-No...I really dont care about PERSONAL discrimination. Show me institutional discrimination in a government entity and we'll attack that head on. Personal? Be whatever you want. FFS...you dont think by you starting this thread you havent exposed yourself and said "hey! look at me! I'm a bigot! I have preconceived prejudices against conservatives!!!" Of course you have...and thats your right. Who cares.

    4-Did I not recognize that in my response?

    5-Poor sick people die. Poor sick people eat like ****. Poor sick people drink and smoke **** and take lousy care of themselves. We have created systems to provide for them. If they cant afford any care at all they are covered...all they have to do is qualify and if they are incapable...they qualify. If they require life saving health care they can get it going to the nearest non private ER...and they will never be expected to pay back their bills...everyone else will.

    6-Ive offered more on this site to 'change' the poverty in the inner cities than any progressive on this site. You people talk **** but you dont give a **** about poor people or mino0rities. Not a single damn. So save your rightous indignation and poutrageous hypocrisy.

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    That's funny. Here's another little personal story:

    I work in a healthcare setting. When Obamacare was first passed, I had this older lady who was just going on and on about how awful socialized medicine is, and how she hates what is happening to this country, and people need to pay for what they use, etc, etc... basically all the usual Sean Hannity/Glenn Beck talking points. She was absolutely livid with outrage. As she kept ranting, I just opened her folder to see what kind of insurance coverage she had herself. Her coverage? Medicare primary with Medicaid supplemental!
    Those folks are called Duel coverage clients, as they have both programs that will ultimately pay for 100% of their medical costs, and if they have a medicare buy-in program as well, they don't have to pay for the premium for Part B.

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    That's funny. Here's another little personal story:

    I work in a healthcare setting. When Obamacare was first passed, I had this older lady who was just going on and on about how awful socialized medicine is, and how she hates what is happening to this country, and people need to pay for what they use, basically all the usual Sean Hannity/Glenn Beck talking points. She was absolutely livid with outrage. As she kept ranting, I just opened her folder to see what kind of insurance coverage she had herself. Her coverage? Medicare primary with Medicaid supplemental!
    Another personal story. I have a neighbor down the block. He's 58 years old living in the home his mother and father left him when they died. He drinks too much, overweight, big bush of white hair and unruly white beard, never worked a day in his life, does nothing but chop firewood (that he pays the local tree cutter with a case of beer to supply him) smokes, drives around in his 2018 Ford Mustang that he bought with his father's inheritance and complains all the time about "them damned libruls, all they want are handouts and free stuff. We need a war and I'm ready for it with my guns".

    This guy has lived on the dime of others his entire life and he's got the balls to complain about food subsidies or rent vouchers. Yet he doesn't consider the handouts to our farmers who are hurting because of Trump's tariffs to be 'entitlements' but THEY ARE!










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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    No, I just asked a question. What injustices do conservatives care about?

    And injustices against conservatives don't really count. I'm talking about caring about people other than yourself.
    It is possible to care about other people, while acknowledging we have limited power to fix everyone. A healthy economic system will probably help more people than attempts by the central government to make things fair.

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Another personal story. I have a neighbor down the block. He's 58 years old living in the home his mother and father left him when they died. He drinks too much, overweight, big bush of white hair and unruly white beard, never worked a day in his life, does nothing but chop firewood (that he pays the local tree cutter with a case of beer to supply him) smokes, drives around in his 2018 Ford Mustang that he bought with his father's inheritance and complains all the time about "them damned libruls, all they want are handouts and free stuff. We need a war and I'm ready for it with my guns".

    This guy has lived on the dime of others his entire life and he's got the balls to complain about food subsidies or rent vouchers. Yet he doesn't consider the handouts to our farmers who are hurting because of Trump's tariffs to be 'entitlements' but THEY ARE!
    But this guy isn't on the public dole so he can complain about it if he feels like it. You don't have to agree with him but you are also not subsidizing him.

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    But this guy isn't on the public dole so he can complain about it if he feels like it. You don't have to agree with him but you are also not subsidizing him.
    That may be true, but many liberals claim that technically everyone is on the public doll. By that I mean, they claim that if you enjoy equal access to government provided services such as open roads, or are able to call upon the police or the fire department, you are taking advantage of such social systems.
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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    It is possible to care about other people, while acknowledging we have limited power to fix everyone. A healthy economic system will probably help more people than attempts by the central government to make things fair.
    Precisely. Attempts to artificially "correct" all things that are, de-facto, unequal, only results in punishing those who are disciplined, successful or simply lucky. Things in life are not equal. 5'6 135 lb. guys can't play in the NFL, for example, though they may be computer geniuses. This is how life is.

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    Re: Do conservatives see ANY injustice in society?

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    But this guy isn't on the public dole so he can complain about it if he feels like it. You don't have to agree with him but you are also not subsidizing him.
    He has been give an entirely free place to live, free food, free everything. Yet, he complains because there's help for people in real need. And as far as his health care, if he has any at all which I doubt, he would find a way to get that for free too. He didn't complain when he's been subsidized all his life, not by me or any taxpayer, but subsidized entirely for sure.










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