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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The 2018 election gave a body where a vote of 218-217 allows the winning side to abuse their power.
    The Republicans in the House abused their power when they had all three branches of government. One clear example of this abuse of power was the sham of an "investigation" conducted by the House Intelligence Committee chaired by Devin Nunes. He spearheaded the protection of Donald Trump from the first day this committee opened an investigation into Russia hacking the election. He had been an advisor to Trump's campaign and in this same Congressional chairmanship role, he mishandled classified information resulting in a House ethics investigation. In response, he recused himself from participating in the Committee’s ongoing investigation of Russian meddling into the U.S. election in 2016. Devin Nunes clearly acting in an overtly partisan way to upset and side-rail the entire Trump investigation.

    Democrats heading this impeachment investigation are doing so in the name of democracy, not partisan politics.










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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    The supreme court voted itself the authority to rewrite laws as it sees fit. It is not a legitimate institution.
    So, you're saying that we don't need amendments to the constitution anymore?

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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    Some don't agree with any notion that 'justice' is relevant to the courts; or that they have any obligation to enforce things like 'equal protection'. As long as THEY get to have the losing candidates they like win elections.
    Republicans can't win without gerrymandering and voter suppression. That's why you see them constantly defending any and every dirty trick.

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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

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    How so? The resistance is stopping many things Trump wanted to accomplish.
    Circumventing the Dept of Defense by making this momentous decision to withdraw support from the Kurds and making that decision overnight without the advice of the very people who he should be listening to. That's just one example of how a dictator operates.










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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The Supreme Court is not the top dictator of the country. Even they have to follow the laws and the constitution and judge their cases in that manner.
    It is within their power to toss out gerrymandering, as I said.

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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    That's just it. I'm not against any media as long as they issue a disclaimer about who they are. If they slant one way then own up to providing biased news coverage.
    You do realize YOU GUYS created this media mess, right?

    In your absurd worship of disgusting charlatans like Reagan, you missed the point. "Deregulate" meant ending the "fairness" doctrine, which prevented the sort of mass media insanity we have today. It's a stunning example of republican lack of foresight, and, of their hubris; they bemoan the media, yet forget one of the pillars of their insane, cannibalistic beliefs, Reagan, did away with a doctrine that ensured equal coverage and less "opinion" peddling that you guys insist is due to "liberal bias."

    Pure lunacy becomes the right wing; they blame everyone else for the hollow corruption running rife through this admin, and then blame the media, a monster THEY STITCHED TOGETHER. Yes, FOX news and CNN could always push fake propaganda via opinion shows, however, ending the fairness doctrine eliminated the last stop gap to having fair news coverage this nation ever knew. Of course, that will be conveniently ignored by the plebes of the right wing who insist everything is the swamp or democrat plants.
    #BDS

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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    First, it was a terrible decision that had absolutely no basis in our Constitution, in fact, similar in my mind to Roe.
    You should educate yourself on how Roe was the constitutional decision.

    Here are two things to start you.

    One, is learn that the constitution itself demands that there is a concept of rights the people have that are not explicitly stated in the constitution. Read the 9th and 10th amendments. The constitution says that a right not being explicitly listed, such as 'free speech', doesn't make it any less protected as a right. It's the argument that such rights are NOT protected that violates the constitution.

    Two, is read Griswold v. Connecticut, the decision where the constitutionality of this issue was recognized, where the right to personal choice was recognized as just such a protected right that is not listed in the constitution. Your not understanding the constitutional issues doesn't mean there aren't any the ruling is based on.

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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    So, you're saying that we don't need amendments to the constitution anymore?
    I'm saying we need to amend the constitution. Not allow the SCOTUS to rewrite whatever it wants on a whim.
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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by independentusa View Post
    The recent SCOTUS has not yet voted on the latest ACA, Obamacare, case that will soon come before them. The best guess bu most experts is that the court will find the ACA unconstitutional.
    A lower court has already decided that. But, I see where you are coming from. If a court decides cases in favor of liberals then it is a legitimate court. If it decides cases in favor of conservatives then it is a kangaroo court. At least that makes it simple.

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    Re: SCOTUS rules against democracy in Gerrymandering case!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    The Republicans in the House abused their power when they had all three branches of government. One clear example of this abuse of power was the sham of an "investigation" conducted by the House Intelligence Committee chaired by Devin Nunes. He spearheaded the protection of Donald Trump from the first day this committee opened an investigation into Russia hacking the election. He had been an advisor to Trump's campaign and in this same Congressional chairmanship role, he mishandled classified information resulting in a House ethics investigation. In response, he recused himself from participating in the Committee’s ongoing investigation of Russian meddling into the U.S. election in 2016. Devin Nunes clearly acting in an overtly partisan way to upset and side-rail the entire Trump investigation.

    Democrats heading this impeachment investigation are doing so in the name of democracy, not partisan politics.
    I see, so you're saying that the other side abused their power so now it is your side's turn to abuse their power.

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