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Video on how to deal with leftist protesters blocking traffic

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AProudLefty said:
I'm deaf so can someone explain what went on? Thanks. :)
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Oh I think I get it. Protesters blocked the traffic and some guy got frustrated. But still what went on after the guy attacked the person who videoed?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Correct - I see only a still image of a Twitter page "snapshot" (exactly the same content as the OP link). One has to have (and use) the Twitter app in order to access the embedded (video) content of a Twitter page. My girlfriend uses Twitter to follow sports "accounts" (via her iPad) on it and videos appear with a "start play" button on them when she uses the Twitter app. Since I do have Twitter app access, I do not see anything but a still picture (no "start play") button appears for my use.
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Heya, TT. The video shows a peaceful protest tying up a roadway. A completely unhinged man comes out of nowhere, rips their banner down, screams obscenities at them, and proceeds to assault at least one of the demonstrators.

That's what the video shows. Sorry, couldn't find it on YouTube for ya. Get Twitter, ya dinosaur. ;)

And, I expect you'd respond to this in the same way you'd respond to Antifa violence...I would expect, given the anti-Antifa posting by conservatives on this forum, that most conservatives would feel the same. :)
 
SDET said:
In some cases it might be necessary to be armed to do this.

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I’m 100% with the guy all the way up to the moment he put his hands on the person videoing the incident. The protestors had no right to impede others ability to go about their business. Your rights are yours until they interfere with mine.
 
Phys251 said:
That is not the issue here. The issue is whether someone who gets inconvenienced by traffic blockers are entitled to resort to physical violence as a result.

Several people on this thread support that violence. You don't, do you?
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The violence demonstrated in this case isn't excessive, and is being used to an appropriate end (i.e. freeing up traffic).

Yes it's vigilantism, but seeing as the guy was in scrubs and was either on his way to or from saving somebody's life, I'll forbear him his short fuse. :shrug:
 
I prefer the Subaru. The all wheel drive capacity is made for conditions like this.

 
COTO said:
The violence demonstrated in this case isn't excessive, and is being used to an appropriate end (i.e. freeing up traffic).

Yes it's vigilantism, but seeing as the guy was in scrubs and was either on his way to or from saving somebody's life, I'll forbear him his short fuse. :shrug:
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So you condone violence by the right, too.

Next! :2wave:
 
VanceMack said:
I prefer the Subaru. The all wheel drive capacity is made for conditions like this.

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And another supporter of right-wing violence! Keep it up, your ilk is on fire today! :thumbs:
 
Phys251 said:
So you condone violence by the right, too.

Next! :2wave:
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It's not an unconditional or unreasonable approval.

Suppose a group of pro-life kids is blocking traffic. I'm ardently pro-life myself, but if an angry businessman comes by, pitches their banner and pitches their phone, he need fear no condemnation from me. They need to learn the way of the world and the limit of society's tolerance for social activism.

Is it fair to say I generally "condone violence by the left"? Hardly.

Don't erase important distinctions. It's intellectually dishonest.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I can sympathize with his anger. Blocking traffic is not a good way to protest. It makes ordinary people less sympathetic to your cause.

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agreed. This only hurts the cause they are trying to promote.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It should absolutely be the last resort. If they refuse to vacate the street upon orders then the second and last step should be the riot sticks and fire hoses
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for what seemed to be 5 kids? seriously?
 
COTO said:
It's not an unconditional or unreasonable approval.

Suppose a group of pro-life kids is blocking traffic. I'm ardently pro-life myself, but if an angry businessman comes by, pitches their banner and pitches their phone, he need fear no condemnation from me. They need to learn the way of the world and the limit of society's tolerance for social activism.

Is it fair to say I generally "condone violence by the left"? Hardly.

Don't erase important distinctions. It's intellectually dishonest.
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Did he, if he is even a nurse, announce the need for emergency?
 
Phys251 said:
And another supporter of right-wing violence! Keep it up, your ilk is on fire today! :thumbs:
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Its not supporting right wing violence...its ensuring idiot leftist twats stay out of the streets so bad **** doesnt happen.

See...people like you have this idiotic notion that you have the power...the control...you can do what you want and there will be no consequence. You dont have to follow the laws but everyone else does.

Ands you are special. And deserve a ribbon. And lifes fair.

Stay out of the street and dont be a ****ing moron. Lifes not that complicated. Or.......

 
VanceMack said:
Its not supporting right wing violence...its ensuring idiot leftist twats stay out of the streets so bad **** doesnt happen.

See...people like you have this idiotic notion that you have the power...the control...you can do what you want and there will be no consequence. You dont have to follow the laws but everyone else does.

Ands you are special. And deserve a ribbon. And lifes fair.

Stay out of the street and dont be a ****ing moron. Lifes not that complicated. Or.......

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AProudLefty said:
Did he, if he is even a nurse, announce the need for emergency?
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He shouldn't have to.

Even if there was no eminent need for him (or anyone else in traffic) at their destinations, his reaction was within the limits of what was appropriate.

@Phys251 is conflating support for this man's use of force to unconditional support for violence, but his argument doesn't tread water. There are worlds of difference between a man pitching the sign/phone of children blocking traffic and Antifa thugs vandalizing property, blocking lawful access to conferences, and raining down blows and other abuse on people.

You know this. He knows this. He's being intellectually dishonest in this thread.

The next time a "Watch Antifa beat up an old lady" thread turns up, I sincerely hope he's not in there like a dirty shirt claiming, "All the righties here were perfectly OK with violence when it was against the left" as though right vs. left was the deciding factor and we're hypocrites for defending the man in this video. This simply isn't true, and he'll know it's untrue. If he genuinely can't see the distinction between this and Antifa thugs beating up an old lady, I hope at the very least his criticism then will be "How can you condemn battery of this woman when you didn't condemn a man pitching the phone of kids blocking traffic?" and not something specious and deceptive like "You support violence against the left but not violence against the right."

In short, if you have to resort to weasel words and glaring lies of omission to make your case, reconsider your case.
 
COTO said:
He shouldn't have to.

Even if there was no eminent need for him (or anyone else in traffic) at their destinations, his reaction was within the limits of what was appropriate.

@Phys251 is conflating support for this man's use of force to unconditional support for violence, but his argument doesn't tread water. There are worlds of difference between a man pitching the sign/phone of children blocking traffic and Antifa thugs vandalizing property, blocking lawful access to conferences, and raining down blows and other abuse on people.

You know this. He knows this. He's being intellectually dishonest in this thread.

The next time a "Watch Antifa beat up an old lady" thread turns up, I sincerely hope he's not in there like a dirty shirt claiming, "All the righties here were perfectly OK with violence when it was against the left" as though right vs. left was the deciding factor and we're hypocrites for defending the man in this video. This simply isn't true, and he'll know it's untrue. If he genuinely can't see the distinction between this and Antifa thugs beating up an old lady, I hope at the very least his criticism then will be "How can you condemn battery of this woman when you didn't condemn a man pitching the phone of kids blocking traffic?" and not something specious and deceptive like "You support violence against the left but not violence against the right."

In short, if you have to resort to weasel words and glaring lies of omission to make your case, reconsider your case.
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There are a few people who operate by "conflating" on here.
 
trixare4kids said:
As some responded below the twitter feed. That guy wins the Internet. Love it!
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He's an American hero. Bunch of losers blocking traffic as people who actual are productive members of society need to get where they're going.
 
AProudLefty said:
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YOu actually offer a pretty decent impression of every idiot leftist and their support of antifa, and the fascists that are protesting free speech at universities and the twats that are attacking people at political rallies.

but then want to piss yourselves when people fight back.
 
I'm glad to see people fighting back against this crap. Climate freaks gluing themselves to everything and preventing society from functioning isn't being tolerated any longer. If we can't count on officials allowing officers to do their jobs and get these law-breaking freaks out of the public roads and metros, then the sane, contributing members of society have no choice but to remove them.
 
RetiredUSN said:
There are a few people who operate by "conflating" on here.
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I've noticed some, yes.

It calls to mind Emerson's quote about "a foolish consistency".

But... none of us are immune, or perfect, hence let's focus on making sure our own consistencies are wise and not foolish.
 
SDET said:
In some cases it might be necessary to be armed to do this.

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What great people those protesters are! The right needs to know how truly immoral they are. The maniac who assaulted them is obviously a trump supporter because he hates and likes to assault women. That trump worshipping attacker will definitely be sharing a cell with trump in the Federal pen for his hate crime!

I love it so much when women are empowered to speak their mind, and their protesting is a great way to do it!
 
VanceMack said:
YOu actually offer a pretty decent impression of every idiot leftist and their support of antifa, and the fascists that are protesting free speech at universities and the twats that are attacking people at political rallies.

but then want to piss yourselves when people fight back.
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Lol. Why do you insist on proving yourself more?
 
SDET said:
If someone is not allowing you to leave that's a form of kidnapping and self defense. However another technique is for cars at the front to slowly inch forward.
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Typical trump-supporting response. Instead of assaulting those women the attacker should have just asked one of them for directions to get around them. Men need to learn to take directions from women!
 
COTO said:
He shouldn't have to.

Even if there was no eminent need for him (or anyone else in traffic) at their destinations, his reaction was within the limits of what was appropriate.

@Phys251 is conflating support for this man's use of force to unconditional support for violence, but his argument doesn't tread water. There are worlds of difference between a man pitching the sign/phone of children blocking traffic and Antifa thugs vandalizing property, blocking lawful access to conferences, and raining down blows and other abuse on people.

You know this. He knows this. He's being intellectually dishonest in this thread.

The next time a "Watch Antifa beat up an old lady" thread turns up, I sincerely hope he's not in there like a dirty shirt claiming, "All the righties here were perfectly OK with violence when it was against the left" as though right vs. left was the deciding factor and we're hypocrites for defending the man in this video. This simply isn't true, and he'll know it's untrue. If he genuinely can't see the distinction between this and Antifa thugs beating up an old lady, I hope at the very least his criticism then will be "How can you condemn battery of this woman when you didn't condemn a man pitching the phone of kids blocking traffic?" and not something specious and deceptive like "You support violence against the left but not violence against the right."

In short, if you have to resort to weasel words and glaring lies of omission to make your case, reconsider your case.
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He was the one who said the emergency could have been real. What is the first thing any one of those responders would have said?
 
VanceMack said:
YOu actually offer a pretty decent impression of every idiot leftist and their support of antifa, and the fascists that are protesting free speech at universities and the twats that are attacking people at political rallies.

but then want to piss yourselves when people fight back.
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"Antifa's" existence is nothing but a right-wing paranoid fantasy brought on over their guilt of the existence of wing-nut organizations, such as the "Proud Boys", the KKK, and the American Nazi Party. I'm close to 60 years old, I've lived and traveled both nationally and internationally and have never met anyone from this made-up organization.
 
VanceMack said:
Its not supporting right wing violence...its ensuring idiot leftist twats stay out of the streets so bad **** doesnt happen.

See...people like you have this idiotic notion that you have the power...the control...you can do what you want and there will be no consequence. You dont have to follow the laws but everyone else does.

Ands you are special. And deserve a ribbon. And lifes fair.

Stay out of the street and dont be a ****ing moron. Lifes not that complicated. Or.......

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The right to protest is literally in the constitution. What you wont find in there is your right to physically assault someone because you don't like what they're doing. :shrug:
 
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