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Why is the Left so obsessed with glorifying women?

Lisa said:
What is this supposed to mean?
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Whats the point of being the good guys if theres ne enimies to fight. The lefts bad guys are white males

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Crusader13 said:
Granted, we all know the Left pampers to minorities (or even creates their own social groups and calls them minorities) for the sake of pretending to be important and compassionate to garner votes. That's actually a smart strategy, and on a practical and strategic level I commend it.

But their efforts have gone way beyond just getting women to vote for them. At this stage, it's just turned into full blown hatred of men. Virtually every facet of daily living is being branded as unfair to women, with the blame usually being put on men for exisitng.

From the destruction of due process, forcing jobs that should go to the best candidate to have women quotas, this nonsense around a "pink tax" or equal pay for less work, pushes to replace classic male movie characters with female ones etc. It's all become laughable at this stage. We get it - the Left wants to eradicate malen dominance everywhere and anywhere, and give it to females instead.

The question is - why? What have females done or promised to do that males can't? Is the system we built, however flawed, not good enough? Is there a legitimate belief that women rebuild society endlessly better than men did? What is it?
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Odd, you think treating equally as pampering.
I think that says more about where your thinking is coming from than the left.

What is wrong with equal treatment of all humans?

It ridiculous to call equal treatment for minorities as hatred of the non minorities. Like saying it's hatred toward men.
I think that is some RW BS if you ask me.
 
beancounter said:
To be fair, I've been on extreme Left sites where many of the members consider all white males to be the devil.

Simply based on their race and gender, regardless of what they have personally done or didn't do. No consideration for the individual. Just blanket hatred

They have zero empathy for men. For example, I remember someone pointing out that white males have the highest rates of homelessness, and their attitude was "so what" or "oh well, too bad". Or white men have had it so good for so long, that anything bad that happens to them is just payback", etc. etc. I think you get the idea.
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This site, AFAIK, is not an extreme left or right site.
Granted, some are far left and right. But to think a far left or right site isn't full of extremists would be gullible thinking.
They are fringe sites for a reason.
This OP is one of those fringe posters, IMO. Blaming the entire left because minorities, women in this case, are not treated as property.
 
trouble13 said:
Whats the point of being the good guys if there's no enemies to fight. The lefts bad guys are white males

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The lefts bad guys are Neo-conservatives, theocrats, and fascists. They aren't hated because they are white males.

If that is true then why do I support Bernie Sanders or Pete Buttegig?
 
trouble13 said:
Whats the point of being the good guys if theres ne enimies to fight. The lefts bad guys are white males

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Hilarious. That is binary thinking at its finest.
If one disagrees with one, they have to be an enemy. Instead of just having a different perpective.
 
Lisa said:
The lefts bad guys are Neo-conservatives, theocrats, and fascists. They aren't hated because they are white males.

If that is true then why do I support Bernie Sanders or Pete Buttegig?
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I could not begin to guess why you support who you do.

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trouble13 said:
I could not begin to guess why you support who you do.

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I don't see race or gender when I support a persons position or their rights. I wouldn't care of they were green or tartan plaid, were binary or non-binary, had 2 or 3 heads and needed a wheelchair if they had rational and intelligent ideas. It is completely shocking for me to understand that some people, do see race and gender as a determining factor when they make a decision to support the ideas or the rights of another person.
 
Lisa said:
I don't see race or gender when I support a persons position or their rights. I wouldn't care of they were green or tartan plaid, were binary or non-binary, had 2 or 3 heads and needed a wheelchair if they had rational and intelligent ideas. It is completely shocking for me to understand that some people, do see race and gender as a determining factor when they make a decision to support the ideas or the rights of another person.
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I agree.

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Lisa said:
Are you sincerely suggesting that we should accept unequal status because we are women and that demanding equal is not ladylike? I'll happily put a 5" platform stiletto up your backside for your misogynistic nonsense.
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I wasn't being the least bit sincere. :)
 
Why is the Right so obsessed with oppressing and demonizing women? Why can't women be set free to build a future society alongside men?

You right wingers are just as bad as the most man hating factions of feminists. And your side has more mass shooters.
 
Crusader13 said:
Granted, we all know the Left pampers to minorities (or even creates their own social groups and calls them minorities) for the sake of pretending to be important and compassionate to garner votes. That's actually a smart strategy, and on a practical and strategic level I commend it.

But their efforts have gone way beyond just getting women to vote for them. At this stage, it's just turned into full blown hatred of men. Virtually every facet of daily living is being branded as unfair to women, with the blame usually being put on men for exisitng.

From the destruction of due process, forcing jobs that should go to the best candidate to have women quotas, this nonsense around a "pink tax" or equal pay for less work, pushes to replace classic male movie characters with female ones etc. It's all become laughable at this stage. We get it - the Left wants to eradicate malen dominance everywhere and anywhere, and give it to females instead.

The question is - why? What have females done or promised to do that males can't? Is the system we built, however flawed, not good enough? Is there a legitimate belief that women rebuild society endlessly better than men did? What is it?
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Historically women have been downtrodden. Treated by conservatives as someone to bring up babies, wash the dishes, look after the home.

The 1950s view of women the US govt promoted was just that, the Nazis had their similar views on women, women were looked down on under Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy and the like.

Macho men, scared to compete with women, scared to let them have an equal part in society.

Liberals feel that all people "are created equal", sound familiar? That a woman can make her own path in life. If she wants to be a housewife, great, she can be, if she wants to be independent and single, great. It's not like we need all women breeding to keep humanity alive any more.
 
Lursa said:
No, the question is why not? Why not glorify women as much as men?

And um...the system is currently broken...by men (since you admit you all had the control up to this point). So why not see how it goes with both pulling equally in harness?
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I agree. Stereotyping is often illegitimate, but I do think there is something to the idea that it's harder for women to reach the top, and so those that do or threaten it are sometimes just a little (or a lot...) better at their job than the competition. I vote for a lot of men, but in the current city elections, it's going to be an all-female ballot for this household.

Just for example, in one city council race, there was a tie last time between a man and woman, and the city council gave their idiot male good old boy network buddy the tie breaker. So what did the woman do? Ran a write in, got 2/3 of the winning vote with a write in campaign, and this time raised more money than any other candidate and won a 5 person primary in a walk off, and she's also black running in a city-wide council seat (we have district seats by geographic area, and city-wide seats - she CHOSE to run in the city wide seat, and not the more heavily black district east of downtown).

No one cares about our local elections, but the point is I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the women candidates this time around because we've had excellent results, less drama, less corruption, with women in power. And they work hard. Many men do as well, but when you're not able to tie into the good old boy network centered at the local elite country club, the women have to work hard to get in the door at all.
 
Lisa said:
Is this how you try to spin it?
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I was being ironic. Words such as 'ladylike' and 'unbecoming' were meant to convey that. Perhaps it was too subtle
 
Lisa said:
Do you need a safe space for your testosterone to flourish without our cooties and estrogen to inhibit you? Is it a problem for you that women have equal rights?
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As per my opening post:

destruction of due process, forcing jobs that should go to the best candidate to have women quotas, this nonsense around a "pink tax" or equal pay for less work, pushes to replace classic male movie characters with female ones
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Please tell me how any of these things constitute equal rights? Getting paid the same amount of money to do less work is the anathema of equality - it means your time and presence is being valued much higher than others. It's even more frightening that you'd consider the other examples indicators of equality too.

Equality would be having treatment on par with men instead of demanding that the men give up things to help you catch up. Face it, you don't want equality. You want special treatment.

BTW, who are the minorities that the left has created?
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The Left has created a bogus sense of victimhood out of every social group imaginable...transgenders, gays, Muslims, Mexicans, Asians, Blacks, women.
 
Frigidweirdo said:
Historically women have been downtrodden. Treated by conservatives as someone to bring up babies, wash the dishes, look after the home.
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Don't forget enjoying the luxury of not having to go to war, dying at a much lower rate than men, being incarcerated at a much lower rate than men, dropping out of school at a much lower rate than men, committing suicide at a much lower rate than men, being raped at a much lower rate than men, dying or getting injured at work at a much lower rate than men, being forced to work jobs that require handling human feces at a much lower rate than men, among others.

Also, it was men who fought for your liberation and enabled your independence with things like the equality act and invention/widespread distribution of birth control and tampons. But please, do go on about how terrible it has been for you.

The 1950s view of women the US govt promoted was just that, the Nazis had their similar views on women, women were looked down on under Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy and the like.
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Those regimes looked down on virtually everyone, including most men. Want to know which group of people were killed the most under the Nazis, Franco, and Mussolini? That would be males.

Macho men, scared to compete with women, scared to let them have an equal part in society.
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Or perhaps wanting to shield them from the terrors and agony you just referred to - history was a very **** time to be alive for everyone. Perhaps women being less involved in said terrors was a good thing? Or would you have rather the men forced women to take equal part in the first two world wars by having them to die on the battlefield or be captured and raped behind enemy lines? Would that have made you appreciate them more for letting you take equal part?

Liberals feel that all people "are created equal", sound familiar? That a woman can make her own path in life. If she wants to be a housewife, great, she can be, if she wants to be independent and single, great. It's not like we need all women breeding to keep humanity alive any more.
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Great, nobody is denying that women should have the right to choose their own path in life. We agree on that point. In fact, this is the very reasoning Conservatives use against the gender pay gap myth. Women can choose their own path in life and they have - statistics show that women choose to work less hours, are not as eager to go into high-paying fields, and tend to prefer being with their family for most of their time. Conservatives don't have a problem with this.

The recent feminazi movement adopted by the Left doesn't let women choose their own path. It tries to convince all women that the men who dare court them into marriage are evil oppressors, and that if they choose to settle down and get married they're betraying the sisterhood by giving into what men want them to do. Not to mention making every possible effort to push women to do things they normally wouldn't choose to do. That doesn't sound like letting women choose their own path.
 
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Crusader13 said:
As per my opening post:
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How have you been denied due process as per the 14th amendment?



Please tell me how any of these things constitute equal rights? Getting paid the same amount of money to do less work is the anathema of equality - it means your time and presence is being valued much higher than others. It's even more frightening that you'd consider the other examples indicators of equality too.
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Women don't do less work but we are paid less. I'm tired of men in engineering thinking that women are less qualified than they are.

Equality would be having treatment on par with men instead of demanding that the men give up things to help you catch up. Face it, you don't want equality. You want special treatment.
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Equality is the last thing that conservatives want because you don't want to compete and be equal with others. You will pay lip service to equality but in the end you want to keep the WASP old boy network to save you from having to work hard and treat others as equals.



The Left has created a bogus sense of victimhood out of every social group imaginable...transgenders, gays, Muslims, Mexicans, Asians, Blacks, women.
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Is discriminating against minorities part of the rights of men and conservatives? Is there a sliding scale of rights based on your skin color, your church, your political views, a persons partners sex or gender, and the fact that you have a penis? Are some people supposed to know that they are to stay on the sidelines and expect to be treated as less than equal because of who they are? You have yet to accept that the civil war ended and that blacks are equal to whites. You want Christians to have more rights than people of other religions. Women are somehow expected to be satisfied was less than equal with men and LGBT people are expected to be treated as less than heteros/CIS republicans Christians. I have news for you that isn't going to happen just because you can't accept that others are equal to you and they expect to be treated in the very same manner that you expect to be treated. There isn't as hierarchy of rights in the US just because that might the way you want it, what the bible says or that's the way it was acceptable in the past.

Conservative males have yet to understand this quote,
When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression
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Crusader13 said:
Don't forget enjoying the luxury of not having to go to war, dying at a much lower rate than men, being incarcerated at a much lower rate than men, dropping out of school at a much lower rate than men, committing suicide at a much lower rate than men, being raped at a much lower rate than men, dying or getting injured at work at a much lower rate than men, being forced to work jobs that require handling human feces at a much lower rate than men, among others.

Also, it was men who fought for your liberation and enabled your independence with things like the equality act and invention/widespread distribution of birth control and tampons. But please, do go on about how terrible it has been for you.



Those regimes looked down on virtually everyone, including most men. Want to know which group of people were killed the most under the Nazis, Franco, and Mussolini? That would be males.



Or perhaps wanting to shield them from the terrors and agony you just referred to - history was a very **** time to be alive for everyone. Perhaps women being less involved in said terrors was a good thing? Or would you have rather the men forced women to take equal part in the first two world wars by having them to die on the battlefield or be captured and raped behind enemy lines? Would that have made you appreciate them more for letting you take equal part?



Great, nobody is denying that women should have the right to choose their own path in life. We agree on that point. In fact, this is the very reasoning Conservatives use against the gender pay gap myth. Women can choose their own path in life and they have - statistics show that women choose to work less hours, are not as eager to go into high-paying fields, and tend to prefer being with their family for most of their time. Conservatives don't have a problem with this.

The recent feminazi movement adopted by the Left doesn't let women choose their own path. It tries to convince all women that the men who dare court them into marriage are evil oppressors, and that if they choose to settle down and get married they're betraying the sisterhood by giving into what men want them to do. Not to mention making every possible effort to push women to do things they normally wouldn't choose to do. That doesn't sound like letting women choose their own path.
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Yes, imagine being a German woman and not having to go to war. When war ends up on your doorstep, you don't have to worry about going to war, the war will come to you and rape the **** out of you. Yeah, great being a woman.

They die at a lower rate than men because, quite frankly, they do less stupid ****. Every High School classmate that has died has been a male, one committed suicide because he married a woman who he knew was cheating on him, and he did drugs (though apparently not connected to the suicide) and the other died a national hero by walking into a burning building.

Not really sure why you've brought up women living longer than men though. As if men should have the power because they **** themselves up more than women. If women are MORE SENSIBLE, surely women should be running thing.

Perhaps, even the US looks down on some men, especially black and Hispanic men too. Again, not sure what your point was. Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, Nazi Germany, they were a man's world. All the high up ministers were men.

Yes, history was **** for a lot of people, and women got the vote later, women still get treated like dirt in first world countries, they get paid less than men, they struggle to get jobs because employers are worried they'll have to pay maternity leave etc. I know people who get paid a basic wage which is ridiculous, then many add ons, so when they get maternity, the company doesn't have to pay much. Great.
 
iguanaman said:
Getting shot down alot lately are you? Try acting like man instead of whiney little baby. More women vote Democratic because they are smarter than you.
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Thread started on Saturday night. Everyone’s out on a date and poor old Crusader13 is at home writing about how awful women are.
 
Crusader13 said:
Virtually every facet of daily living is being branded as unfair to women, with the blame usually being put on men for exisitng.
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1. That attitude may have contributed to Candidate Trump winning in the Electoral College.

2. Not only do some liberals blame men for existing, but they also blame a certain ethnicity for existing.

3. No wonder that many people feel that President Trump -- despite his many personality flaws -- is the only choice for them. In other words, he is definitely the lesser of the two evils.
 
Lisa said:
How have you been denied due process as per the 14th amendment?
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I haven't, but don't pretend the Democratic/left thinktank doesn't want to see this happen. Demanding a Supreme Court Justice nominee have his life ruined over allegations of sexual assault, perpetuating this myth about people being rape apologists or victim-shamers for asking for evidence when a rape is reported etc.

Women don't do less work but we are paid less.
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You're wrong. Women work less hours on average compared to men in the US (and almost every country). They also consistently choose lower-paying fields. That's why they get paid less. To pay them equal would mean to pay them the same amount despite doing less work. That's not equality.

Details in BLS report suggest that most of the gender earnings gap is explained by age, marital status, children, hours worked | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Is discriminating against minorities part of the rights of men and conservatives?
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No, it is not. Nor do Conservatives want it to be. You're just making that up with completely baseless, unfounded accusations.
 
Frigidweirdo said:
Yes, imagine being a German woman and not having to go to war. When war ends up on your doorstep, you don't have to worry about going to war, the war will come to you and rape the **** out of you. Yeah, great being a woman.
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Women living in war-torn areas weren't the only ones at risk of dying. Men endured that too. In fact, women and children were often spared at a much higher rate than men were when a town full of civilians was captured. Most labor camps throughout history were full of men. Women were spared that privilege.

They die at a lower rate than men because, quite frankly, they do less stupid ****. Every High School classmate that has died has been a male, one committed suicide because he married a woman who he knew was cheating on him, and he did drugs (though apparently not connected to the suicide) and the other died a national hero by walking into a burning building.
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Wow, total nutjob feminist confirmed right here. So when a man's life is ruined by a slutty cheating wife, it's surely not the woman's fault. No no, it's the man's fault for having so much forgiveness and trusting the woman in the first place.

Those men who die running into burning buildings are the reason many, many, many more women and children are alive today. Perhaps if women got of their tutsy a little more often instead of complaining about broken nails, men wouldn't have to take the brunt of dangerous tasks alone. Risky jobs are an essential part of a civil society. Yet we clearly see women are not willing to do the dirty work and undertake these jobs. No no, they only want equal representation in the coushy jobs like CEO and lead engineer.

Not really sure why you've brought up women living longer than men though.
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Because dying is a lot worse than literally everything women complain about. Oh, I can't pay for my birth control. I'll need to work double shifts to raise a child. I get 27 cents less than a man does. Tough ****. 100% of people would take those burdens over dying.

If women are MORE SENSIBLE, surely women should be running thing.
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No, because as you've already admitted women take less risks than men. Yet risky behavior is what drives innovation, learning, new limits, new possibilities, and great gains. It was men doing stupid, risky things that spared the world being taken over by evil forces time and time again. It was men doing risky things that led to women having the products they need to be independent.

Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, Nazi Germany, they were a man's world. All the high up ministers were men.
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And the overwhelming majority of their victims were men. The Nazi regime caused like 10 million deaths, mostly men. That means if you were a male, you had a significantly higher chance of dying than you did of being in some position of power within the Nazi party.

Yes, history was **** for a lot of people, and women got the vote later
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Most women didn't want the vote because it meant mandatory draft and bucket duty, which they weren't willing to do. They chose not to have the vote early on. Also, going deeper into history, it took a long time for men to be given an automatic right to vote as well. Voting was historically reserved for only the mega wealthy.

women still get treated like dirt in first world countries
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No they don't. Women suffer problems just like every group of people in every country. But women in the first world are by far, objectively, and undeniably the most privileged group of people to ever have lived until this point. At no point can you go back and say your life would've been better, more free, more luxurious, and more safe if you were a male or even a woman living in a different era.

they struggle to get jobs because employers are worried they'll have to pay maternity leave etc.
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Employers have a right to worry about their money. Businesses operate for profit. If a group of people is statistically much less likely to take time off, and statistically much more likely to work longer, it's logic that leads to them getting higher more. It's logic, not discrimination.
 
Crusader13 said:
Granted, we all know the Left pampers to minorities (or even creates their own social groups and calls them minorities) for the sake of pretending to be important and compassionate to garner votes. That's actually a smart strategy, and on a practical and strategic level I commend it.

But their efforts have gone way beyond just getting women to vote for them. At this stage, it's just turned into full blown hatred of men. Virtually every facet of daily living is being branded as unfair to women, with the blame usually being put on men for exisitng.

From the destruction of due process, forcing jobs that should go to the best candidate to have women quotas, this nonsense around a "pink tax" or equal pay for less work, pushes to replace classic male movie characters with female ones etc. It's all become laughable at this stage. We get it - the Left wants to eradicate malen dominance everywhere and anywhere, and give it to females instead.

The question is - why? What have females done or promised to do that males can't? Is the system we built, however flawed, not good enough? Is there a legitimate belief that women rebuild society endlessly better than men did? What is it?
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Do you have issues with women? Get a girlfriend and quit whining.
 
Zalatix said:
Why is the Right so obsessed with oppressing and demonizing women? Why can't women be set free to build a future society alongside men?

You right wingers are just as bad as the most man hating factions of feminists. And your side has more mass shooters.
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Don't you know the little lady has to be home, awaiting hubby with warmed slippers, dinner in the oven and looking forward to the Friday night sperm deposit?
 
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