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    Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

    Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President | The New York Times

    If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.



    By William H. McRaven - Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command.
    10/17/19

    Last week I attended two memorable events that reminded me why we care so very much about this nation and also why our future may be in peril. What struck me was the stark contrast between the words and deeds heralded at those events — and the words and deeds emanating from the White House. But, beneath the outward sense of hope and duty that I witnessed at these two events, there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear that echoed across the sidelines. The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within. These men and women, of all political persuasions, have seen the assaults on our institutions: on the intelligence and law enforcement community, the State Department and the press. They have seen our leaders stand beside despots and strongmen, preferring their government narrative to our own. They have seen us abandon our allies and have heard the shouts of betrayal from the battlefield. As I stood on the parade field at Fort Bragg, one retired four-star general, grabbed my arm, shook me and shouted, “I don’t like the Democrats, but Trump is destroying the Republic!” Those words echoed with me throughout the week. It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

    But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states? If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up? President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever. And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.
    A clear statement by one of our most revered and decorated former senior officers, who headed the JSOC component which eliminated OBL in Abbottabad, Pakistan in 2011.


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    Rino! Deep state traitor! Hes a dnc plant and a hillary supporter and donates with soros!

    Hunter biden!

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    Re: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President | The New York Times

    If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.
    Yeah, its called an election. Just because you can't field a candidate who can beat Trump doesn't give you the right to determine what the country needs. Thats called a coup.

    This continued crying over losing an election isn't going to win the next election either.

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    "Yeah, but at least it triggers the libtards."
    I have a simple worldview: I'm for freedom but against "freedumb".
    I'm for liberty and against "liberteh!1".
    I support policy based on sound social science and facts not following the "kawnstitution" off a cliff.

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    Re: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President | The New York Times

    If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.





    A clear statement by one of our most revered and decorated former senior officers, who headed the JSOC component which eliminated OBL in Abbottabad, Pakistan in 2011.
    Interesting how the far left has become war hawks. Must be difficult to know what color of core beliefs to wear every day.
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    Re: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Interesting how the far left has become war hawks. Must be difficult to know what color of core beliefs to wear every day.
    A lot of reality-bending there for you to label Adm. William McRaven as part of "the left".

    But then again that is all Trumpers have remaining now - reality-bending.


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    Re: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

    Quote Originally Posted by Condor060 View Post
    Yeah, its called an election. Just because you can't field a candidate who can beat Trump doesn't give you the right to determine what the country needs. Thats called a coup.

    This continued crying over losing an election isn't going to win the next election either.
    Trump hires a private polling agency that tells him he's losing to Biden even in Texas. He flips out and fires the polling agency. Then he works with Giuliani to extort Ukraine into "investigating" Biden and his son.

    Now you want to convince me that Democrats don't think they can beat a president who 50% of the people think should be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Interesting how the far left has become war hawks. Must be difficult to know what color of core beliefs to wear every day.
    I spent years hearing how Obama pulled out of Iraq and created ISIS. Now you are OK with Trump pulling out of Syria and abandoning the people who helped us defeat ISIS.

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    An incompetent attack at that.

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    Re: Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfDaedalus View Post
    Trump hires a private polling agency that tells him he's losing to Biden even in Texas. He flips out and fires the polling agency. Then he works with Giuliani to extort Ukraine into "investigating" Biden and his son.

    Now you want to convince me that Democrats don't think they can beat a president who 50% of the people think should be removed.
    Nope, I know all you have is what Liberals have been spewing for over 3 years now. Nothing.

    In the real world,

    Trumps rallies are hosting 40-50 thousand people

    Trumps campaign has the largest voter donations in the history of presidential candidates with 155 million in cash with over 60% of those donations at an average of $44 bucks

    Trump has raised more money that all these Democrats combined

    The DNC is broke and millions in debt

    The RNC has over 78 million in cash

    And all you got is 3 years of failed attempts to remove a president still failing as we speak. You can't even get a House vote and you think Pelosi and Schiff will get it done?

    That is the real world everyone else is living in but stay in that bubble just a little longer. You only have until next November before it will burst. Again.

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